Rabies shots for Manu

[Manu'sMagicalLeftHand]

you are stupid you can not even quote me correctly
damm what a airhead

You're a lost cause. I shall leave your parallel universe on its own.

[DAF86]

YES! a Manu vs Tony thread. It's been a long time since we had one of these.

[raspsa]

Lucky manu.. got his shots on his arm. When Iwas bitten by a mouse on a toe years back, the doc injected the first shot into my toe.. hurt like crazy.

[Fernando TD21]

YES! a Manu vs Tony thread. It's been a long time since we had one of these.

You know Tony could have caught the bat on air, without sending it to the floor.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

You may not want to claim people don't know if they know if they are bit or not when proof shows to be the opposite in situations such as bat bites.

People usually know when they have been bitten by a bat. However, because bats have small teeth which may leave marks that are not easily seen, there are situations in which you should seek medical advice even in the absence of an obvious bite wound. For example, if you awaken and find a bat in your room, see a bat in the room of an unattended child, or see a bat near a mentally impaired or intoxicated person, seek medical advice and have the bat tested.

http://www.cdc.gov/RABIES/bats.html

In other words, nothing like this situation.

However, I agree that people should take precautions.

Again, I wasn't disputing the facts established by any source. But I was annoyed that you thought my claim to not knowing if one might know if they were bit or not to be false. I think I proved otherwise.

In the act of swatting the bat...Ginobili could have garnished a bite as well as when he picked up the bat and not even known to have been bit. The first reaction of any wild animal when defending itself is to bite.

Um, no. The bat was stunned, and the reason it was stunned was that it didn't see manu's hand coming. There was no bite, and if there was he would have known about it. He wasn't asleep, he's not a child, nor is he meantally impaired. The CDC cites specific examples because those are clearly risk factors.

Anyway, Manu will be fine (although annoyed by the shots and unlikely to swat a bat without protective clothing on again - he'll leave it to the Coyote next time!), the bat was (sadly) probably tossed in a dumpster by an employee who either thought it was dead or didn't know what to do in the situation (there's no entry under "Manu swats bat!" in the orientation manual, I'm sure), and now we can all move on with our lives.

[sabar]

Do your ing research, moron - symptoms don't show for at least two weeks.

I guess it makes sense for Manu to have the shots as a precautionary measure, but a very low % of the bat population carries the virus, he'd know if he'd been bitten (despite what someone else said - how can you get bitten by something and not know? ever been bitten by a mouse? you know about it!), and he washed his hands in antiseptic cream straight afterwards which would have killed any bacteria or viruses on his hands.

Storm in a freakin teacup.



Very, very rarely, and I'm pretty sure only by inhaling infected guano in caves. You can't magically get it in a situation like this where you've not bitten or breathing rabies-infected guano.

I've been bitten many times without knowing. I've also been scratched and lacerated without knowing. I didn't even realize I split my finger open a few months ago until I noticed blood pouring onto the floor. I have a 4 inch scratch on my right side right now that I don't even know where it came from. So, yeah, you can get bitten without knowing. Pretty sure I'm not alone in these occurrences.

Taking the shots is the smart thing to do if the animal can't be located and destroyed for brain samples. The shots only work in the early stages if the disease is in fact there. Also, Manu is worth $10,728,130 and the shots probably run $2,000.

Hand sanitizer is also ineffective against the rabies virus. All it takes is some bat saliva to go through some Manu eye/nose/mouth membrane from hand contact.

[kace]

YES! a Manu vs Tony thread. It's been a long time since we had one of these.

what are you talking about ? Ducks always tries to bash manu, whatever the situation. It's not a manu vs parker thing here, you're the one bringing that.

welcome to the USA Manu. In argentina you just put that on the grill and spread some chimichurri on it

so true




anyway, i've got to question the spurs medical staff.

i've questionned their diagnosis ability with the Mahinmi situation last season.

and now i question their reactivity for not having thought to say to the AT&T personnel to keep the bat in order to analyze it and maybe to avoid manu some useless shots.

[Agloco]

Do your ing research, moron - symptoms don't show for at least two weeks.

I guess it makes sense for Manu to have the shots as a precautionary measure, but a very low % of the bat population carries the virus, he'd know if he'd been bitten (despite what someone else said - how can you get bitten by something and not know? ever been bitten by a mouse? you know about it!), and he washed his hands in antiseptic cream straight afterwards which would have killed any bacteria or viruses on his hands.

Storm in a freakin teacup.

Sanitizers are by and large ineffective against killing viruses. They only reduce the absolute number which cling to your hands. Think of it as the sanitizer making it inhospitable for a virus. The best thing, as always, is to wash your hands which Manu didn't do immediately afterwards.

Also, keep in mind it's not the virus on his hands that's worrisome so much as the virus that may have gotten in through a break in his skin (eg. a bite that he didn't feel). Killing the virus on the skin after a bite does nothing to stop the progression of rabies.

[Agloco]

anyway, i've got to question the spurs medical staff.

i've questionned their diagnosis ability with the Mahinmi situation last season.

and now i question their reactivity for not having thought to say to the AT&T personnel to keep the bat in order to analyze it and maybe to avoid manu some useless shots.

While it's a nice thought, I've gotta wonder about the associated costs with each course of action......

[Mel_13]

and now i question their reactivity for not having thought to say to the AT&T personnel to keep the bat in order to analyze it and maybe to avoid manu some useless shots.

I assume you've seen the video. If the reports are true that the bat was released, you have to assume that usher with the bat went to the nearest exit and let the thing go. That probably took less than a minute. Even if some member of the Spurs medical staff was in the arena and had the notion to try and stop the usher, it would have been virtually impossible to get word from the medical staff to the usher before the bat was long gone.

[WalterBenitez]

Rabies shots for Manu
By Jeff McDonald on Nov 2, 09 04:40 PM | Permalink | Comments (3) Save & Share Yahoo! BuzzYahoo! Newsvine del.icio.us Facebook Google Reddit Fark
Manu Ginobili's Halloween run-in with a bat made for entertaining news fodder for a few days. Ginobili, however, isn't laughing anymore.

Team officials could not locate the bat after Saturday's game against Sacramento, so it could not be tested for disease. Which meant Ginobili will spend the next month getting a series of precautionary shots to protect against rabies.

"It was pretty funny at the time," Ginobili said before practice this afternoon. "Now, it's not. I have to get like a million shots."

According to the Center for Disease Control, only a small percentage of bats carry the rabies virus. Ginobili took four injections Sunday, in the arm and hip, and is scheduled for four more sessions over the next month.

Ginobili has shown no symptoms of the disease, and was expected to practice as normal this afternoon.

If he learned anything from the ordeal, it's that it's all fun and games until someone needs a rabies shot.

"It wasn't so much fun," Ginobili said. "The bat survived. I'm fine. I'm not going to have rabies. The bat won."
http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblog...-shots-fo.html

That bat should be included in TOP 10 most wanted, we need his words for Intl Media.

[JudynTX]

Ouch!

[DAF86]

what are you talking about ? Ducks always tries to bash manu, whatever the situation. It's not a manu vs parker thing here, you're the one bringing that.

[boutons_deux]

Manu world famous:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/othe...ll/8339506.stm

[duncan228]

Worst Manu pass ever
By Buck Harvey

So you're working as an usher at a Spurs game. You're not making much money, but you enjoy the job, especially the front-row view in the AT&T Center.

Suddenly Manu Ginobili is running toward you to hand you something.

You take what he gives you because, well, he's Manu.

Only now do you realize what he's given you.

Ginobili has already begun a series of precautionary shots to protect against rabies. This will take about a month to complete, which is one reason Ginobili tried to talk doctors out of the treatment.

Another reason: He doesn't like needles.

There were no signs on his left hand of either a bite or an abrasion, but that didn't matter. There's always a chance through any contact. After hearing that, Ginobili understood.

But this wasn't about just him. Anyone who handled the dazed bat was vulnerable, and forgotten in this episode is the usher who received the worst pass of Ginobili's career.

"He's on my to-do list today," said someone on the Spurs medical staff. "We will put him in contact with public health officials."

So you are the usher, and you hear Ginobili say, "It was pretty funny at the time, and now it's not."

And you couldn't agree more.

[kobyz]

they coulden't do a Rabies test to the bat and save the Rabies shots for Manu?

[jalberto]

NO. the bat disappeared

[Ludovician]

I have no idea why Manu is getting so many shots. I woke up with a bat in my home a few months ago and underwent the full regimen as advised by the CDC. It's two shots on the initial day of treatment (Immunoglobulin plus Day 0 of the vaccine), and then three additional vaccinations on Days 3, 7, and 14.

If you make it through the treatment there's a 0% chance of dying from rabies, so everyone calm down.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

I stand corrected on the effectiveness of sanitizers.

However, I still believe that in this particular situation Manu would have known if he'd been bitten.

[ducks]

amazing how the manu homers are trying to make this a manu vs tony thread
not
they think manu can do no wrong even though he admitted it was STUPID

[Manu'sMagicalLeftHand]

[mando6599]

We need a good and funny wallpaper with a rabid Manu dunking or something like that. Where's Jalberto?


mando

[lurker23]

the bat was (sadly) probably tossed in a dumpster by an employee who either thought it was dead or didn't know what to do in the situation (there's no entry under "Manu swats bat!" in the orientation manual, I'm sure), and now we can all move on with our lives.

I think it's time to update the orientation manual. While we're at it, we can add other plausible necessities such as, "Where to get an emergency halftime sub for Matt Bonner," "Emergency escape routes to get Tony and Eva away from the paparazzi," and "What to do when DeJuan Blair hands you Hasheem Thabeet's arm."

[phyzik]

amazing how the manu homers are trying to make this a manu vs tony thread
not
they think manu can do no wrong even though he admitted it was STUPID

The problem that people have with you is that if it was Tony, you would be all over his like a fly on . It's not so much Manu homers as it is one Manu Hater.... you constantly discredit him despite his contributions to the team, thats where the hate comes from when it comes to your ignorant ass. You constantly search for a reason to hate him, instead of crediting him for what he does bring, and thats just ing sad.

It's time to stop playing the role of a Manu hater, at this point your hate is so rediculous its obvious that you just do it to keep up your little spiel act. It's getting old Ducks.... going on 3 years now.... move the on. If Tpark can do it from his wagon jumping rant and still be accepted here, so can you.... Maybe.

[DAF86]

amazing how the manu homers are trying to make this a manu vs tony thread
not
they think manu can do no wrong even though he admitted it was stupid

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