Orlando Office Building Gunman on the loose

[Dr. Gonzo]

Disco Rules...

Disco is the 70s.

[MannyIsGod]

Manny do you seriously think that the media coverage and all its glory has little to nothing to do with the perception that we live in a more violent world.

Unless I misunderstood you.

You very much misunderstood. On the surface I'd assume there are many factors, but I've never given it much thought so you'll have to forgive me if these are obviously incorrect for some reason.

With all due respect to Veronica, I believe she represents a view fostered by her Christian world view. Unless I'm misrepresenting it, that world view is one where the world will degrade until Jesus comes back to save the world. In order for that to happen one would have to assume times are getting worse. If indeed the exact opposite is occurring, then there would seem to be little need for the Messiah to come save humanity. In other words, to facilitate the 2nd coming I believe it is desirable for people of Christian faith to posses a view that the world gets worse with each subsequent generation and eventually will come to a point where only Jesus can save us.

In addition, the fact that we have less violence in our world makes it all the more susceptible to being sensationalized. If you live in a world where you watch people die in horrible ways day after day, then why would you care about the 24 hour news coverage for an event like this shooting? Do you think the people living in World War II Europe are going to watch 4 or 5 straight hours of news covering an office shooting when the house next door just got carpet bombed? Not likely.

[clambake]

where the does this "birther" thing come from? Because I said he didn't show his birth certificate before he was elected? He didn't. And what the am I pretending? God some people on this board are ing idiots. If you don't agree with their political views, you're automatically ignorant, and they act like they know you or something. I've never met you, clambake, and thankfully, I probably never will. You don't know me. You know nothing about me, so quit acting like you do.

all i know about you is you're a birther. it's out there. live with it.

[BacktoBasics]

You very much misunderstood. On the surface I'd assume there are many factors, but I've never given it much thought so you'll have to forgive me if these are obviously incorrect for some reason.

With all due respect to Veronica, I believe she represents a view fostered by her Christian world view. Unless I'm misrepresenting it, that world view is one where the world will degrade until Jesus comes back to save the world. In order for that to happen one would have to assume times are getting worse. If indeed the exact opposite is occurring, then there would seem to be little need for the Messiah to come save humanity. In other words, to facilitate the 2nd coming I believe it is desirable for people of Christian faith to posses a view that the world gets worse with each subsequent generation and eventually will come to a point where only Jesus can save us.

In addition, the fact that we have less violence in our world makes it all the more susceptible to being sensationalized. If you live in a world where you watch people die in horrible ways day after day, then why would you care about the 24 hour news coverage for an event like this shooting? Do you think the people living in World War II Europe are going to watch 4 or 5 straight hours of news covering an office shooting when the house next door just got carpet bombed? Not likely.

I see what you're saying now. Excellent points.

[angel_luv]

That is true. It was not a proposal.

But, forgive me for thinking it crazy that you find the televised depiction of queen size beds to be a disturbing trend.


I did. Line by line. It wasn't an offensive. I'm not pissed. It's just, you left a lot of room for response, no?

I find it hard to believe that you did not understand my point in referring to the beds.
But I will indulge you.

My point with the beds was that now sex scenes are often shown on nightly television, often times in very revealing and very detailed manners.

That is in stark contrast to evening sitcoms that aired during my grandparents' day.


Back then actors were not naked on television and the only people spending the night together on those shows were husbands and wives.
On those shows the couples had children and as such intimacy between them was implied, yet their sexual acts were never portrayed for everyone to see.
Couples if shown in their bedroom were fully clothed and were either sleeping or having a conversation-( as I mentioned before) with each person in a separate bed.

" I Love Lucy" is not that old of a show so the fairly quick progression from " I Love Lucy" to shows such as Desprate Housewives is startling and disturbing to me.

I feel the difference even moreso in regards to what is considered proper content for cartoons since the development of adult themed cartoons is something that has occurred within the span of my life. I am 27.

[clambake]

jesus guys, you know angels reading this.

[Spursfan092120]

all i know about you is you're a birther. it's out there. live with it.

and apparently that's enough for you to judge someone. If that's the case, I feel really sorry for you. And for the record, I don't believe Barack is ineligible to be President..never said I did. So I'm not a birther, but your ignorance will see past that. you're an idiot. live with it.

[clambake]

ok

[BacktoBasics]

Hey did you guys know that there was a gunman loose in Florida.

[Spursfan092120]

Hey did you guys know that there was a gunman loose in Florida.

no ...lol

[clambake]

Hey did you guys know that there was a gunman loose in Florida.

he's not loose. go read about it in the politics forum. i know you're man enough.

[angel_luv]

Sorry to de-rail the thread.

CF & Manny- I read your responses and I appreciate you both taking the time to share your point of view with me. You also, Back to Basics.

[Spursfan092120]

he's not loose. go read about it in the politics forum. i know you're man enough.

already gave the update, y...and at least in here, we don't have to thumb through bull politics to find it, at least we didn't until you showed up.

[balli]

I find it hard to believe that you did not understand my point in referring to the beds.

I understand very well that you were trying to contrast today's TV shows with the puritanical depictions of life in the 1950's.

What YOU don't understand, is that this discussion was not about which era's television was more ascetically prudish, or even about the ideals inherit, but rather about whether our modern world, as it stands, is a safer and better place than that which existed in previous epochs.

According to every real indicator, historical or statistical, our world is a much better place than it has ever been. Despise the culture of the first-world all you like, but the fact is more people are living longer and happier lives, than ever before. And that's what this discussion was about, angel.

[clambake]

poor thing

[angel_luv]

Balli you interrupted my conversation with Manny so I don't see how you can justify scolding me about the course of discussion. Manny inquired about my views. I responded. Seems pretty on point to me.

You're wasting your time bullying me. I'm not scared of you.

As a matter of fact... I think you're cute.

[PM5K]

This world is a terrible place anymore.

Are you ing Ducks or something?

[BacktoBasics]

Are you ing Ducks or something?

No Bo.

[angel_luv]

Are you _ Ducks or something?

I should have said nowadays instead of anymore, right?

[balli]

Balli you interrupted my conversation with Manny

Sorry. I won't next time. Or use this:

You're wasting your time bullying me.

My intent wasn't to bully you angel. My intent was to poke holes in a publicly posted list that more or less read as a not so subtle warning about secular societies' failings and the coming rapture.*

I'm not scared of you.

And if I did so, it's because I'm a bit scared of you.





*Were God petty enough to usher in the apocalypse over the decline of 1950's American Idealism

[angel_luv]

You're cute Balli.

[balli]

[Wild Cobra]

Shooter in Texas, now Florida.

Could we be heading for another pandemic?

[PM5K]

I should have said nowadays instead of anymore, right?

Something like that, but ing Ducks will do that to you.