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It can be hard to tell who's serious and who's just clowning. spurms' anti-semitism seemed sincere to me.
Sure. I never really cared about the Jew Drama the rest of the world seems to be -bent on.
They should leave their gay little quarrels on the other side of the world. America has far more important things to focus on, namely Miley Cyrus and Twilight 3.
It can be hard to tell who's serious and who's just clowning. spurms' anti-semitism seemed sincere to me.
In either case, he's not worth responding to.
Yeah, you're right. I got suckered. I wanted to see him get a proper bloading. Silence probably would've been more effective.
I thought it was kinda chicken how you weaseled out of adressing the guys points.
I didn't want to give the guy's points any oxygen, and at any rate he didn't elaborate on them himself but just kept repeating them. I'm plenty critical of Israel, but his premises were way over the top. As I see it, they were self-refuting. Israel isn't the world's biggest terrorist and we're not their sock puppet. spurms wasn't the least bit reasonable, so I saw no good reason to be reasonable with him.
Anyway, it doesn't hurt my feelings to see an arsonist get burned. Live by the flames, die by the flames.
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I think it's kind of funny how bent out of shape you are in every single thread you post in.
Spurms' political posts seem to be worse than his NBA post, that in itself is pretty difficult to do.
I didn't see your addressing any of his points, micca of da streets.
I personally don't think the US has lost its "morale" ground, although it seems that there could be more strings attached to our $3 billion per year we give to Israel to move any peace process along.
WH and I argue allot, but with the way you posted, I have no interest in arguing with you. There's far more to profiling than race or religion. You seem to have a deep hatred. You came off as a serious boggot, and I seldom waste time with people of such low moral charactor, which you appear to have.Should i now go in a corner and weep, because you persist on personal attacks with words, if you do not take me seriously, don't bother figuring out who i am.
That's why my first posting here was asking if he was a troll.
Agreed. I probably said too much in a thread that should be dead.
this was never an issue of antisemitism, this is about Israel and it's zionist lobbyist in the USA. I couldn't have made my point any clearer, pls do not derail this thread into another antisemitism or Nazi thread because it had to do with Jewish atrocities. The Zionist apologist here again made no attempts to back up their claims of Antisemitism, so i have rightly stated that words with no justifications are used as a tool to blackmail. Not even Obama could convince Israel to end their West Bank Settlements construction, and he's seeking closer ties with the Arab world at the same time, it's not going to work, he have to end all military aids used to kill innocents to Israel, to pressure them to resolve the 2 state solution. It never was in Israeli interest to do so, they perpetuate wars, first with Lebanon and now against civilians in Gaza, and have thousands of troops protecting newly established settlements in the West Bank, totally disrespecting the treaty signed in their illegal proxy annexation on Palestine in 1949 which already deemed Palestinians as having second class citizen rights. Zionist mass media tries to report these military expansion as self defense measures. Self defense measures in an occupied land? So why is it that even when Obama called for an end to Israeli settlements there, which was the right thing to do, but nothing have come out of it? My only reasoning is the country is heavily contaminated by politicians, powerful lobbyist, working in the interest of Israel first, Israel can commit no war crimes because they are the Chosen people of God, and so called Christian America seems to agree. Or perhaps Zionist America.
someone who doesn't avoid the issue. I disagree with the no strings attache, cut off all aids and funding to Israel and the killings stop, the only strings attached Israel could possibly provide is that anyways.
I guess you fooled me when you said this:
Was that a slip?
Your own words seem to warrant the description.
I agree with most of this description in a rough sort of way. Only, Obama won't do any of the things you say he needs to.
If Abbas resigns for good, it's probably the end of a two state solution. And if there's anything that scares Israel more than a two state solution, it's a one state solution. I wouldn't say it's a given that "nothing" comes out of the State Dept's (so far) vacillating and inept approach to the peace process.
You might want to think twice about comparing the Israel lobby to poison or disease -- supposing of course, that you do not want to be mistaken for an anti-semite -- but yeah, we have an Israel lobby, and it is influential. Of course, it is their job to represent the interests of Israel, so I don't really begrudge them that.
The interests of the US and Israel are not coextensive.One problem I have with your view is that you assume they are identical. Nothing could be further from the truth IMO. Your cartoonish vision of US-Israel relations undermines your credibility.
Yeah. A lot of people think that. I don't. I thought Operation Cast Lead, as it's known in English, was more or less a massacre. I also thought the recent invasion and bombing of Lebanon was barbarous in its intensity and disproportionality.
We might agree about some of that, spurms, but your indiscriminate Jew talk really pisses me off. Until you get a handle on that, there's not much further we can go here.
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Yeah. A lot of people think that. I don't. I thought Operation Cast Lead, as it's known in English, was more or less a massacre.[/QUOTE]
I am talking about the context, i never said terrorist Arabs mind you, and i believe in neutrality in statements, if i had said terrorist Arabs, then i should also include Zionist Jews, read between the lines. And what part of history made you think that the Zionist committing atrocities in Israel are not also Jewish?
We part ways here, hombre. If you can't figure out why, we don't need to talk anymore.
I must have forgotten about the last time a 'zionist' killed Americans on American soil for the sake of his cause...
must have been asleep during that history lesson...
they should definitely screen jews with more than 2 million in the bank. which means 98% of them
because killing is the only way you can overpower ppl
The OP asked in the context of terrorism no?because killing is the only way you can overpower ppl
Go roll your eyes at someone else...
oh it's all related. If ppl can't control someone with money, ppl probably use force
If the law of physics that for every action there's an equal reaction applies to American geopolitics, then the whole of New York City and it's entire population would be vaporized by now. Of course this is just an example, so don't get too hung up on it.
Or genocide to enhance their own deterrence capabilities.
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