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    I'll take Duncan's "service" any day of the week.
    So would D228.

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    I get the implication though--Tim is less than he was. The same was said of David Robinson in 2003, but his defense and rebounding helped us clamp down and win the championship.

    As for Tim's offense, Allanon is right. In 1999 our offense consisted of dumping the ball to Tim in the post. 10+ years later, the team has more scorers and more offensive versatility. Tim's just not going to get the touches he did then, but it doesn't mean he isn't an effective offensive player.


    Pretty much sums it up. I was talking about how Manu is a bigger key to this season this Duncan is. Without a Slasher/Spot up shooter, Spurs won't get past Lakers. , look at last year vs Mavs.

    Duncan reminds me of Robinson in 02, 03. Great games, but clearly the team is moving in a different direction. 4 down is not the play anymore.

    Tim Duncan is a god, and the best power forward ever. And it's a shame that no one outside of San Antonio can appreciate the level of his career.

    But you're a fool if you think this team is Duncan 1st. It's not. And it's not Duncan's fault.

    "Sevicable" was just used to say that the Spurs could win games with their offense with another center. Not saying to trade him or anything like that, just using an example that the offense doesn't flow through TD.

    Spurs going to find themselves in a business vs loyalty issue real soon.
    Someone will offer Manu 3yr 45 mill. Not sure if the Spurs will.

    Spurs took care of Jaren Jackson and Malik and didn't get much back. They've gone down the loyalty route before.

    Personally, I think once Duncan leaves, some of the Spurs F.O. decides to ride out with him, so they might not care much for the future of the team regarding contracts...etc.

    Manu staying next year probably 70%.
    Parker staying after his next contract about 50%

    And c'mon don't get carried away. My show is only sevicable, but we are up to almost 10 listeners not counting relatives and co-workers

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    Pretty much sums it up. I was talking about how Manu is a bigger key to this season this Duncan is. Without a Slasher/Spot up shooter, Spurs won't get past Lakers. , look at last year vs Mavs.

    Duncan reminds me of Robinson in 02, 03. Great games, but clearly the team is moving in a different direction. 4 down is not the play anymore.

    Tim Duncan is a god, and the best power forward ever. And it's a shame that no one outside of San Antonio can appreciate the level of his career.

    But you're a fool if you think this team is Duncan 1st. It's not. And it's not Duncan's fault.

    "Sevicable" was just used to say that the Spurs could win games with their offense with another center. Not saying to trade him or anything like that, just using an example that the offense doesn't flow through TD.

    Spurs going to find themselves in a business vs loyalty issue real soon.
    Someone will offer Manu 3yr 45 mill. Not sure if the Spurs will.

    Spurs took care of Jaren Jackson and Malik and didn't get much back. They've gone down the loyalty route before.

    Personally, I think once Duncan leaves, some of the Spurs F.O. decides to ride out with him, so they might not care much for the future of the team regarding contracts...etc.

    Manu staying next year probably 70%.
    Parker staying after his next contract about 50%

    And c'mon don't get carried away. My show is only sevicable, but we are up to almost 10 listeners not counting relatives and co-workers
    Ya, but servicable? C'mon man...even now Duncan is more than Will Perdue. Sure the focus has changed but you're blind if you think the Spurs will get anywhere with Duncan just being servicable.

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    Ya, but servicable? C'mon man...even now Duncan is more than Will Perdue. Sure the focus has changed but you're blind if you think the Spurs will get anywhere with Duncan just being servicable.
    Of course. Can't remember how it came up. Duncan is still a Top 5 Big man in the league.

    And look at the Lakers last night. They had something like 78 points in the paint. Unreal. They exposed the Suns as the fraud they always are.

    Duncan needs to be healthy deep into the season. Without him you are right, they've got no shot!

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    I for one understand a slip of the toungue. A typo. A moment of illogical thought.

    I'm just an ordinary guy. I can't imagine what it's like to have to be on guard all the time in a professional environment like broadcasting and journalism. I'm sure it wasn't meant the way it came out and hold no ill regard or lack of faith in the person who said it because I'm sure they didn't mean it the way it came out.

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    Timmy's biggest problem was getting off to such a quick start last year. He is a notoriously slow starter and this yr he seems to be back to that slow start. I again through past history have realized that if I let everything that goes wrong with the spurs bother me I will go nuts by rode rode trip, which coincidently is usually the time things tend to go right. So I will give the team til then before I proclaim a player especially a player that has earned the right the benefit of the doubt until rodeo rode trip

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    Duncan has a whole lot more left in the tank than DRob v.2003.

    His limitations at this point are still mostly by choice than by attrition. A healthy Duncan in the playoffs is still 20-10 machine.

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    Timmy's biggest problem was getting off to such a quick start last year. He is a notoriously slow starter and this yr he seems to be back to that slow start.
    And that's not necessarily a bad thing. I think one of the main reasons the Spurs have had such a successful decade is that when new guys have come on board, they've tweaked things to get them integrated. If the offense still effectively centered on 4 down, what would be the chances that a player like Parker could have ever blossomed? What would be the odds that a player like Jefferson could integrate?

    Tim has the humility and intelligence to accept a diminished offensive role ( , he's promoting that role) for the greater good of the team. What more can you ask for from an aging star? (And what a contrast to Iverson's implosion.)

    To switch into full-on star metaphor here, we need Tim to fade gradually and not implode. If he can do so, the post-Duncan era might not be so apocalyptic.

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    Pretty much sums it up. I was talking about how Manu is a bigger key to this season this Duncan is. Without a Slasher/Spot up shooter, Spurs won't get past Lakers. , look at last year vs Mavs.

    Duncan reminds me of Robinson in 02, 03. Great games, but clearly the team is moving in a different direction. 4 down is not the play anymore.

    Tim Duncan is a god, and the best power forward ever. And it's a shame that no one outside of San Antonio can appreciate the level of his career.

    But you're a fool if you think this team is Duncan 1st. It's not. And it's not Duncan's fault.

    "Sevicable" was just used to say that the Spurs could win games with their offense with another center. Not saying to trade him or anything like that, just using an example that the offense doesn't flow through TD.

    Spurs going to find themselves in a business vs loyalty issue real soon.
    Someone will offer Manu 3yr 45 mill. Not sure if the Spurs will.

    Spurs took care of Jaren Jackson and Malik and didn't get much back. They've gone down the loyalty route before.

    Personally, I think once Duncan leaves, some of the Spurs F.O. decides to ride out with him, so they might not care much for the future of the team regarding contracts...etc.

    Manu staying next year probably 70%.
    Parker staying after his next contract about 50%

    And c'mon don't get carried away. My show is only sevicable, but we are up to almost 10 listeners not counting relatives and co-workers
    Burns you should have left this alone..TD still has to be accounted for! Do you think any serviceable big man can draws double teams??? Just sayin.

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    That was a ridiculous thing to say. The guy is NOT what he used to be, but what he is..is better than most that play his position.

    Serviceable ? As in, not the player that the offense revolves around ? Look, let's not get crazy with 2 nice wins at home. If we don't have Tim, we don't win a Championship this year.

    He had a bum ankle right ? He tried to play on it and didn't look so good. He'll be fine. I just hope his knee is ok.

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    Ubeliebebal

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    that is true.

    but he's still the best defensive big man in the team. by far
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    i agree

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    so, does this morning sports show's opinion matter?

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    Duncan is nothing like Robinson of 03. Wow seriously is this comparison being made right now? Duncan has a lot more left and tons more to offer then drob did back in 2003.

    This Tim Duncan on the decline we have been hearing for the past 3 YEARS is really getting old and starting to piss me off.

    Yes, we know we have more options now. Yes we shoot more jumpers. Yes Duncan is not the same as 5 years ago. WTF just drop it. He is still the best defensive player on this team and on certain nights is still the best scorer out there for us.

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    Pretty much sums it up. I was talking about how Manu is a bigger key to this season this Duncan is. Without a Slasher/Spot up shooter, Spurs won't get past Lakers. , look at last year vs Mavs.

    Duncan reminds me of Robinson in 02, 03. Great games, but clearly the team is moving in a different direction. 4 down is not the play anymore.

    Tim Duncan is a god, and the best power forward ever. And it's a shame that no one outside of San Antonio can appreciate the level of his career.

    But you're a fool if you think this team is Duncan 1st. It's not. And it's not Duncan's fault.

    "Sevicable" was just used to say that the Spurs could win games with their offense with another center. Not saying to trade him or anything like that, just using an example that the offense doesn't flow through TD.

    Spurs going to find themselves in a business vs loyalty issue real soon.
    Someone will offer Manu 3yr 45 mill. Not sure if the Spurs will.

    Spurs took care of Jaren Jackson and Malik and didn't get much back. They've gone down the loyalty route before.

    Personally, I think once Duncan leaves, some of the Spurs F.O. decides to ride out with him, so they might not care much for the future of the team regarding contracts...etc.

    Manu staying next year probably 70%.
    Parker staying after his next contract about 50%

    And c'mon don't get carried away. My show is only sevicable, but we are up to almost 10 listeners not counting relatives and co-workers
    your a ing moron. tim duncan is still the engine on this machine.
    serviceable big man? are you kidding me?

    maybe yall should go back to talking about high school football.

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    8 games into the season and Tim has suddenly become redundant? Gimme a break. This is the kind of comment made by people who look at statistics alone and ignore the player's actual effect on games. Timmy affects a game in so many intangible ways on both ends of the court - he creates angles for drivers, draws doubles, quarterbacks the defence, etc. - and since he's older nowadays he seems to gradually ramp these things up as the season progresses. The NBA season is a marathon, not a sprint.

    Revisit this thread in April and see whether thoughts like this are still bandied about.

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    It's only through great restraint that many of us fans are only talking about Tim's 5th ring this season instead of looking ahead to 7.

    What he does for the Spurs on the bench and in the locker room and practices cannot be measured by stats. Duncan quietly brings everyone on the team to a higher level.

    I'll take TD21 in his final years over ANY other big in the NBA with no reservations.
    Ask the coaches and owners if they would give Tim twice what we're paying him right now?

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    He just plays smart. He has obviously gotten a bit slower offensively and defensively. But he can still take alot of these young guys to school on the low-block. Simply put there swinging and blocking air cause he throws a few pump fakes and lays it up. Smart basketball without the flash. Kevin Mchale of the 2000's except timmy passes the ball whereas KMchale was known as the blackhole.

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    Duncan has a whole lot more left in the tank than DRob v.2003.

    His limitations at this point are still mostly by choice than by attrition. A healthy Duncan in the playoffs is still 20-10 machine.

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    Update: serviceable big wins player of the week for the WC!!

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    Update: serviceable big wins player of the week for the WC!!
    Call that serviceable es!

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    HAHA where is that D-BAG now???????????????????????????????????????? Tim Duncan is just serviceable... you ing fool

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    This thread will get funnier and funnier as it gets bumped over the season.

    If "serviceable" means good enough for Player of the Week, 7th in Overall Efficiency, 4th in Hollinger's PER, and Spurs leading scorer and rebounder and third-leading disher...

    Well, I'll take serviceable all season long then, plz.

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    When I first read this, I wasnt sure if it was a joke or not....but now I know that those who look at Duncan as just "sevicable" are wetawded. 20 & 10 baby.

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    And daddy can do that all day everyday...with the exceptions of back to backs and blowouts. Well maybe not,...but pretty damn close. He may not be the Duncan of old, but he can still be a consistent 20 & 10 player. For this year anyways.

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