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    Awesome. Who gets the ball, Jefferson or hill taking turns standing at the three point line looking befuddled.
    Yeah, they're befuddled because they suck. That's a correct and rational explanation.

    They're befuddled because the offense is jacked up.

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    AGAIN IMO duncan was obviously the best option in OT.. POP misused his timeouts.. didint call any till it was over... should have used his timeout to refuel duncan a bit before feeding him the ball over and over again....

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    So you're calling the Mavs frontline pathetic (which I agree with) but only illustrated how bad Duncan was in the OT. Again, this isn't the first time Duncan has gone late in the close game against ty frontlines and done the same thing. It isn't.
    Okay? What's the point? Duncan has sucked against bad frontlines so the Spurs shouldn't give him the ball even when he's being single covered against horrible defenders?

    You are using Monday Morning Quarterback logic. Duncan hits that chip shot and this thread is never made. It's easy to say Duncan shouldn't have gotten the ball after the Spurs lose but during the game, Duncan against Humphries or Dirk was by far the best thing the Spurs had going offensively.

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    should have used his timeout to refuel duncan a bit before feeding him the ball over and over again....
    Bro, no amount of time outs would have stopped a triple team and Duncan killing the possession with a miss or turnover.

    Again, play the damn percentages.

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    duncan was clearly the best option

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    It's Relative. It's an accepted loss. Plus some new guys got some PT in Crunch time. That's good for Growth and cohesion. I'll take a close loss the to the Mavs 10 games in and 2 Key players down to Train the New Guys and build team play together.

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    Manu is our closer. He was out, what did you expect.

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    Okay? What's the point? Duncan has sucked against bad frontlines so the Spurs shouldn't give him the ball even when he's being single covered against horrible defenders?
    No, I think the point is change the play calling when it because so damn obvious the current one you're running isn't working nor is it going to work.

    You are using Monday Morning Quarterback logic. Duncan hits that chip shot and this thread is never made.
    I agree. But that's the point, a healthier, younger Duncan doesn't miss that chip shot.

    Duncan Fall 2009 isn't a the player you want gobbling up the entire offense because of his former glory.

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    LOL..

    so the only alternative that has been given so far is a screen for McDyess..I don't disagree, I wouldn't have minded that..it's tough though..the only guy that could have POTENTIALLY given a good screen would be RJ, because Tim's the only guy they would have respected enough to give their focus..

    freeing somebody up isn't that easy when you have to rely on RJ, a PG in Hill, and a horrible screen-setter in Finley..I don't know if Dice could have gotten a good shot there..I guess we could have tried..

    timvp hit pretty well though, I don't know how anybody can disagree..Duncan was having a great 2nd half, he's going against average defenders..he missed his shots, he didn't have enough gas left, it happens..we had no other option..

    it's tough to execute when your #1 and #2 closers aren't playing, you're on the road, and your best player just carried you on both ends the entire 2nd half to get it into OT..

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    Bro, no amount of time outs would have stopped a triple team and Duncan killing the possession with a miss or turnover.

    Again, play the damn percentages.


    Bro, duncan carried this team on his back once again to force overtime.. you have to be crazy that duncan against humphries or dirk wasnt the best option..... who did u want with the ball? RJ and Dice dont even know where to stand for s sake. Duncan was the only reason we were in this game

    And, for duncan getting triple teamed.....even more of a reason to go to him to pass and kick.....

    all im saying is that pop could have used some timeouts to make sure everyone (new guys) are on the same page.. while giving duncan some much needed rest

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    Manu is our closer. He was out, what did you expect.
    Weak. We don't need a closer if we play better team ball with the offense.

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    And, for duncan getting triple teamed.....even more of a reason to go to him to pass and kick.....
    He never did that, hence the thread.

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    Honestly, I partially agree with BH here. I don't mind going to TD as long as he's being single covered. I think it's actually a mismatch to exploit. But at some point you know the other team is gonna gamble and double-triple team. That's why you need to mix it up.

    Again, this is not what lost us the game. It wasn't also the gimmie TD missed.
    I really for the life of me can't fault Duncan for trying to carry this team.

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    Of course i would love Mcdyess to shoot open jumpers all overtime... DO YOU REALLY ING THINK THE MAVS WERE GOING TO ALLOW THAT? because you call a pick and roll with hill and dyess doesnt mean there going to leave dyess for an open jumper automatically.. in a

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    Also, how the is it Duncan's fault if nobody is moving when he's down low?..

    Duncan's one of the best passing big men of all-time..he's one of the most unselfish players ever..if he sees a cutter freed up, you don't think he's going to pass the ball?..

    you don't need a double team to find an open man..not his fault nobody is moving..

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    p.s. Dirk mentioned in the post game interview that they were missing a couple key guys.....LMAO
    Why is that funny? It's true. Unless you are so hypersensitive as to infer that he thinks the Spurs weren't also missing key guys, there's nothing funny at all about that comment.

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    No, I think the point is change the play calling when it because so damn obvious the current one you're running isn't working nor is it going to work.
    Duncan against Humphries or Dirk with minimal help is something I'd want the Spurs to exploit no matter the situation.

    I agree. But that's the point, a healthier, younger Duncan doesn't miss that chip shot.
    Are you sure?

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    Duncan Fall 2009 isn't a the player you want gobbling up the entire offense because of his former glory.
    Duncan is scoring just about the same amount of points as usual while shooting a career high percentage. You are burying him too soon.

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    DO YOU REALLY ING THINK THE MAVS WERE GOING TO ALLOW THAT?
    When they have three guys covering Duncan in the paint, yeah, I think there's ample opportunity for Dice to shoot.

    Three players collapse on Duncan and you don't think we could get a shot off?

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    When they have three guys covering Duncan in the paint, yeah, I think there's ample opportunity for Dice to shoot.

    Three players collapse on Duncan and you don't think we could get a shot off?
    i never once saw 3 players collapse on duncan untill duncan made his move already... if dice was open for a jumper, ill trust duncan to find him.

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    LOL..

    so the only alternative that has been given so far is a screen for McDyess..I don't disagree, I wouldn't have minded that..it's tough though..the only guy that could have POTENTIALLY given a good screen would be RJ, because Tim's the only guy they would have respected enough to give their focus..

    freeing somebody up isn't that easy when you have to rely on RJ, a PG in Hill, and a horrible screen-setter in Finley..I don't know if Dice could have gotten a good shot there..I guess we could have tried..

    timvp hit pretty well though, I don't know how anybody can disagree..Duncan was having a great 2nd half, he's going against average defenders..he missed his shots, he didn't have enough gas left, it happens..we had no other option..

    it's tough to execute when your #1 and #2 closers aren't playing, you're on the road, and your best player just carried you on both ends the entire 2nd half to get it into OT..
    Which begs the question of what was Finley doing there? I mean, if TD wasn't gonna pass, what's the point of Finley? Kidd, who was guarding him, was the one to go double team TD.

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    Duncan against Humphries or Dirk with minimal help is something I'd want the Spurs to exploit no matter the situation.
    The problem is, we couldn't exploit it and instead of seeing that and changing it up (whether the outcome stays the same or not) Pop just kept putting his thumb in his palm and rotating the other four down.

    Are you sure?

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    No, I'm still sure.

    Duncan is scoring just about the same amount of points as usual while shooting a career high percentage. You are burying him too soon.
    Who cares, the fact remains that I saw the SOS tonight just on a different day during a different close game.

    LJ, please answer me honestly. Who this the first time you've seen this in a close game?

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    i never once saw 3 players collapse on duncan untill duncan made his move already... if dice was open for a jumper, ill trust duncan to find him.
    So Duncan can't pass out after he begins to drive?

    He can swing it another player who finds Dice?

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    Yet another tell-tale sign

    spurs EIGHTEEN TURNOVERS to Dallas' Five.

    Richard Jefferson have five just by himself. duncan had just 2.

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    LJ, please answer me honestly. Who this the first time you've seen this in a close game?
    Duncan has had bad games in close games throughout his career. Every superstar has. Not sure how that helps your argument.

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    So Duncan can't pass out after he begins to drive?

    He can swing it another player who finds Dice?
    first of all it isnt even a fact that dice was ever open on these "triple teams".. secondly, again i would trust timmy to find the open man if there is one.. duncan obviously thought he could take humphries just like he did at the end of regulation and seeing dirk get calls like that one against mcdyess in ot.. there was def enough contact for him to go back to the line that last play.\


    and like just posted... duncan with just 2 turnovers

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