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    Cotto wasnt up to Mayweather's level based on what? Cuz he lost to Pacman and Margarito? Is that it? You know how bad ass Cotto was. Cotto beat the best welterweights and didnt duck them. He lost to a loaded Margarito, but beat Mosely and Clottey. Cotto would have whopped on Hatton and DLH and prob whooped on Marquez aswell.

    cotto is very good. Thats why I love him. But for mayweather's style, no.
    Manny is more of an exchanger, thats why I gave Cotto the punchers luck. But that didnt happen. It wasnt just Manny's speed, it was his angles, plus Cotto isnt the best defensive guy. O well.

    As for weight, Manny fought a lighter /drained DLH.
    Dont ask me why DLH did that, but o welll...he lost becuz of it.


    both of these fighters are about equal on paper. Its going to offense vs defense. plain and simple.

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    I see this fight as being like the DLH/Mayweather fight. But in this case, Manny will connect more then DLH connected. If i recall, DLH got a split decision based on his aggression and thrown punches. I have no doubt that Manny will throw just as much and connect more the DLH did. Mayweather is gonna get hit. Yes he will duck a majority of it (unlike pacmans past opponents who practiclaly got hit 50% of every throw), but i think its going to come down to whether Mayweather can duck enough punches while in turn connecting with his counters. He's done it before, but not against someone who has thrown this much punches at these various angles with this type of crazy fast speed.

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    Who cares about those ing boxing matches?

    They're all fixed, it's GAY

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    Manny will win no doubt.

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    i wonder if PBF does his shoulder roll enough times, can Manny knock it out of his socket. lol
    Money is probably not going to use his shoulder against a southpaw.

    Cotto only had 5 months off between fights. Manny has enough time to recover.

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    Apparantly, Floyd wants Pacman to take a blood (olympic style) test for drugs.

    Also, there is a report that Mayweather is threating to back out of the fight cuz of weight issues. I dont really understand what the article means, so if someone can explain it, that'll be great.

    http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/283970

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    Don't think it'll happen, but Jerry Jones is trying hard to get the fight in his stadium.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/news/story?id=4752110

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    Apparantly, Floyd wants Pacman to take a blood (olympic style) test for drugs.

    Also, there is a report that Mayweather is threating to back out of the fight cuz of weight issues. I dont really understand what the article means, so if someone can explain it, that'll be great.

    http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/283970
    The fight has to take place at 147 because the le is on the line.

    Floyd is just trying to negotiate the fight.

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    The fight has to take place at 147 because the le is on the line.

    Floyd is just trying to negotiate the fight.
    from what i heard, 147 is already agreed on...what else is he trying to get in regards to weight.

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    dis is Money in da Bank mark my words..............

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    from what i heard, 147 is already agreed on...what else is he trying to get in regards to weight.
    Money wants to use the gloves he prefers to use for the fight.

    8 oz gloves vs. 10 oz gloves.

    You can notice a big difference between 8 oz gloves and 10 oz gloves. Remember Floyd has a history of injuring his hands.
    Last edited by Ness; 12-20-2009 at 11:19 PM.

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    hey ironmexican, you seem to know your boxing. If this fight comes to arlington, how much you think ticket prices will range?

    The tickets will be expensive as , I've heard of the front row seats selling for a couple thousand. You're going to need close seats if you want to actually be able to see the fighters. I went to Holyfield-Oquendo here in SA, fight took place in the Alamodome. I wound up spending I think a little over $100 for my ticket, we were seated at I think the very top of the mid-level. I could barely even seen the fighters, keep in mind these two guys are heavyweights over 6ft tall and 200+, Pacman and Mayweather are very small. I wound up watching most of the fight on the big screen. The atmosphere is exciting and all but I don't think it's worth it unless you get good seats. For the crappy mid-level seats I'd guess a couple hundred.

    You also gotta deal with some rowdy fans(remember, these are boxing fans), people get really drunk and start fights all the time in the stands. When I was at the fight, there were at least 3 fights that I could see from where I was sitting. The fight wasn't that packed either, I could just imagine what it'd be like in a mega fight such as this. Not family oriented at all if you're wanting to bring a kid lol, but pretty darn fun if you go with your buddies.

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    The closer the fight gets, the more i'm convinced that Manny will beat Mayweather. I think it'll be just too much pressure for Mayweather to handle. Angles, speed, power and now has a proven chin...thats a deadly combination.

    Looking forward to a great fight.

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    http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=4762409

    Looks like it'll be at the MGM.

    Can't believe this fight is going to happen on my wedding day.

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    The closer the fight gets, the more i'm convinced that Manny will beat Mayweather. I think it'll be just too much pressure for Mayweather to handle. Angles, speed, power and now has a proven chin...thats a deadly combination.

    Looking forward to a great fight.
    Floyd is too skilled for Manny, he toyed with Marquez and he gave Manny fits..

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    Oh

    Probably a minor setback that will get worked out..





    http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/B...213/story.html

    LOS ANGELES — "The reported fight between top boxers Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather Jr. has hit an impasse after it was revealed Pacquiao will not comply with Olympic style drug testing as outlined and mandated by the United States Anti Doping Agency (USADA).


    Pacquiao has stated he has difficulty taking blood and does not want to be subject to random testing within 30 days prior to the fight.


    The 30-year-old Pacquiao, the current welterweight champion and le holder in seven different weight classes, has agreed, however, to have his blood drawn before the kick-off press conference and after the fight.


    "I understand Pacquiao not liking having his blood taken, because frankly I don't know anyone who really does," said the undefeated Mayweather. "But in a fight of this magnitude, I think it is our responsibility to subject ourselves to sportsmanship at the highest level. I have already agreed to the testing and it is a shame that he is not willing to do the same.


    "It leaves me with great doubt as to the level of fairness I would be facing in the ring that night. I hope that this is either some miscommunication or that Manny will change his mind and step up and allow these tests, which were good enough for all these other great athletes, to be performed by USADA."


    Pacquiao (50-3-2, 38 KOs) is coming off a 12-round TKO of Miguel Cotto, while Mayweather (40-0-0, 25 KOs), who retired for nearly two years from 2007-09, has just one fight since his return to boxing - a unanimous decision over Juan Manuel Marquez"


    If Floyd is willing to submit to these tests, Manny must do the same..

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    Update Freddie Roach makes the most ignorant in statement in the history of the English Language...



    Roach said his concern about the timing of a blood test has nothing to do with hiding anything. "It's 100% mental. If it's in your head that [a blood test] weakens you, then it will weaken you," he said.

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    Update Freddie Roach makes the most ignorant in statement in the history of the English Language...



    Roach said his concern about the timing of a blood test has nothing to do with hiding anything. "It's 100% mental. If it's in your head that [a blood test] weakens you, then it will weaken you," he said.

    :
    Honestly, I can understand where that's coming from. Whether it's how he was raised, or worried about his routine, I don't think it gives heavy "doubt" to fairness. There's no reason for it, but it's a nice strategy to with Manny.

    This is a psy-op by Mayweather, and a clever one. This is gonna be nasty!

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    Roach's statement, makes no sense. Manny is not giving blood they are taking blood, one little vile worth. It won't weaken him and i doubt that Manny is weak mentally to the tune of thinking it will. Sounds like they are scared of what will be found..

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    Roach's statement, makes no sense. Manny is not giving blood they are taking blood, one little vile worth. It won't weaken him and i doubt that Manny is weak mentally to the tune of thinking it will. Sounds like they are scared of what will be found..
    uh oh, Manny on ROIDS, lol.
    that is a damn shame if he wont submit to drug testing.

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    what a ass pussy PBF is. Daddy Sr thinks Manny is on drugs so he wants some olympic style test that the Nevada sanction doesnt even require. Floyd finding a way to duck this one too.

    Maybe he should pick on another lightweight like Marquez so he can be 20 pounds heavier then them. Thats a level playing field. =P

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    Dan Rafael take

    Basically he says Manny better say yes or his rep will be badly tarnished..

    http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=4766620

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    what a ass pussy PBF is. Daddy Sr thinks Manny is on drugs so he wants some olympic style test that the Nevada sanction doesnt even require. Floyd finding a way to duck this one too.

    Maybe he should pick on another lightweight like Marquez so he can be 20 pounds heavier then them. Thats a level playing field. =P
    If Floyd is willing to submit to the testing, Manny should take no issue unless he's got something to hide. This is the biggest fight in boxing non-heavyweight since Leonard/Hagler. A Gazillion dollars at stake.. But Manny might blow it because he doesn't want to get pricked with a needle. All signs point to, the fight being a done deal as long as he says yes to this last thing..

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    Floyd is too skilled for Manny, he toyed with Marquez and he gave Manny fits..
    im not sure if you remembered it, but Manny and Marquez fought at 130, while Floyd fought Marquez at 147. How many times have you seen Marquez fight past 135 let alone 140?

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    If Floyd is willing to submit to the testing, Manny should take no issue unless he's got something to hide. This is the biggest fight in boxing non-heavyweight since Leonard/Hagler. A Gazillion dollars at stake.. But Manny might blow it because he doesn't want to get pricked with a needle. All signs point to, the fight being a done deal as long as he says yes to this last thing..
    from what i read, Floyd wants the blood to be pulled 48 hours before the fight. Is that even common?

    Also, just because Floyd says he wants something, that doesnt mean it has to be done.

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