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This is probably our best option at this point..
The problem then becomes our lack of size at the 2-3..I don't think Manu can play significant minutes at the 3, and Bogans isn't big/athletic enough to play at the 3 IMO..
How about putting Manu and Jefferson both in the starting lineup?
The Bench is productive with or without Manu and if needed they can put Dice on the Bench for that mid range jumpshot.
The real problem I saw was how much the starters got outscored.
These are the two games Manu and Jefferson played together since Duncan and Parker were out Most of Jefferson's points were just off Manu getting the ball to him off cuts.
These are the stats for the lineup
Parker
Manu
Jefferson
Duncan
Bonner
I think for maximum production out of Jefferson him and Manu need to be played at the same time. I think Pop should have faith in his Bench without Manu it's already 3rd in the leauge in production.
This is probably our best option at this point..
The problem then becomes our lack of size at the 2-3..I don't think Manu can play significant minutes at the 3, and Bogans isn't big/athletic enough to play at the 3 IMO..
How about putting Manu and Jefferson both in the starting lineup?
The Bench is productive with or without Manu and if needed they can put Dice on the Bench for that mid range jumpshot.
The real problem I saw was how much the starters got outscored.
These are the two games Manu and Jefferson played together since Duncan and Parker were out Most of Jefferson's points were just off Manu getting the ball to him off cuts.
These are the stats for the lineup
Parker
Manu
Jefferson
Duncan
Bonner
I think for maximum production out of Jefferson him and Manu need to be played at the same time. I think Pop should have faith in his Bench without Manu it's already 3rd in the leauge in production.
The perimeter defense will suffer significantly with a Parker-Ginobili-Jefferson lineup IMO..
Yeah I am happy to try that. I don't want RJ forced to start like we did Hedo to keep some kind of fake confidence. If he is not working out starting then try benching him.
How about Blair starting too? Could start the game off with more energy.
I'm in to make it the longest thread ever!
I don't agree that RJ sucks at all. Are we forgetting how productive he was in Parker's absence. He can and should be more involved.
I was pleased to see TP finally start looking to get the ball to him on a couple of occasions. The flow could be better, but at least it was a start. RJ did miss some shots, but he needs to stay aggressive and the Spurs need to do more to get him in the flow.
People seem to believe that a contender with so many new pieces is supposed to be an instant success. Though in the end I think the 4 stars will end up starting.
Almost all of the shots he got were created by him on the fly..he still isn't getting plays ran for him..that's a huge problem, and I have no idea why it hasn't been resolved yet..
He did miss some easy shots today... but Pop really needs to get him involved. I mean, what the they do the last 4 days? Plenty of time to draw a play or two for the guy and practice it to death.
I really can't think Pop is so ing challenged getting somebody going offensively. If he really expects RJ just to 'fit in' in our offense, don't expect much from him.
Thank you!
The pb I think is that he needs to be one of the first two options on a team to be efficient, he needs to tuch the ball a lot to feel confident!
And that won't happen with the spurs as long as Tony, Timmy and Manu are healthy!!
He is a good player, but can't feet the "role player" costume in the spurs's system...
He does and Manu finds him as you saw when Duncan and Parker were out. In the first half Jefferson was cutting but no one was passing it to him so why continue passing if no one will find you?Thank you!
The Spurs should model how they play their stars after how Boston plays Rondo,Pierce,Ray and Kg
I think he can... but he's different from other players... Manu is a creative guy, so if you run a play for him great, and if you don't, then he'll make something up... but RJ is a guy that needs to get a shot or two up and going to get started and gain confidence... right now, he ain't getting anything.
I think it's also the fact that Tony and Tim feel they should be scorers 1 and 2 out there, and the rest should get the scraps... in a way, our system always kinda worked like that...
This is where it becomes Pop's job
Melo next game will be an interesting test for Bogans and RJ.
It continues the trend we've seen all year..
First he couldn't get a play when Jason Kapono was guarding him..tonight he couldn't get a play when ing Ray Allen was guarding him..
we heard Pop talking the entire off-season..he was telling everybody how the Spurs went out and acquired a guy to help bring some fire power to a team that needed more talent to compete with the better teams..
It doesn't make sense to me that a guy that believes that doesn't run a play for the guy..
TBH, I don't mind Bogans out there playing D. But if we have him out there, against good teams we also need more than 2 clearly defined scorers... otherwise, it's relatively easy to shut us down...
Exactly this is something that should have been worked with in the pre season. Did they expect Jefferson to get involved with no set plays.
Pop needs to run more plays for him. Jefferson needs to stop settling for jumpers. Tony and Tim are not enough scoring by themselves as the starting unit. Either Jefferson or Manu has to be that third starting scorer.
One thing nobody really noticed because perhaps it's not as expected, but it's the exact same deal with Dice. We all know he's got a killer jumper, but I'll be surprised if he took more than 3 shots tonight. It pisses me off too because Pop pretty much sat him out after he missed a jumper or two, but played Bonner all ing night when Matt couldn't buy a bucket.
McDyess was a nonfactor on offense, but he's a much better defensive big man. In general, we're much better off when McDyess is on the floor instead of Bonner. That said, tonight McDyess was a nonfactor and Bonner actually rebounded decently. Doesn't mean Bonner should have been in, but ...
+100 yeah
I still WILL NOT GET IT... Why does he still get mins when he is cold?
That may be correct, but ElNono's point is still spot-on..
Bonner is lights-out from 3s, while Dice is lights out from the mid-range..
Pop ALWAYS runs a ton of plays for Bonner..the team ALWAYS looks to get him shots all the time..I don't know if I even remember one instance of the guys looking for McDyess this year, maybe 1 or 2..
I didn't pay attention to Jefferson.
But Finley was pretty good tonight except the stepping out of bound.
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