I started this thread because the stat was just crazy. +32 in 17 minutes and with only 7 personal points, to boot. I mean a guy like Rudy Gay can generate a +35 with an amazing 41-point performance vs. Miami in 38 minutes...but Bonner's +32 in 17 minutes is just whack. That is all.
Uh no...this thread is about Matt Bonner, you are displaying a pathological hatred of the guy in it, and I feel this thread is the totally appropriate place to discuss why....s's as good as any.
If you don't want your pathological hatred of him discussed in it(and it is a pro-Bonner thread at heart), then I suggest you stop pathologically hating him in it!
Rofl! Suck on that elnono. You're as exposed as the day you were born. Bu bu but me and my Internet cronies were laughing about it on the game thread! Ha. You don't know about basketball.
You don't watch the games and you know more than elnono
I don't hate any Spur player. Please show me where I'm 'displaying pathological hate' towards Matt Bonner?
I hate Spurs fans that use +/- to try to explain Matt Bonner's production, specifically because they most likely do not understand how +/- works at all.
If they would, then they wouldn't be trying to explain any single player's production with it.
This has absolutely nothing to do with Matt himself.
That's your counterpoint?... Hmmm, k.
All I know is I love Bonners new role on the team, would like him to lose a few minutes and give them to Blair but 15 minutes off the bench is damn good, especially on the court at the same time as Manu.
EXPOSED
you're only argument is something that is obvious to everyone. using +/- to determine a players productivity in ONE game doesn't work. NO SHERLOCK!
If you actually read anything I posted in this thread, it isn't my only argument.you're only argument is something that is obvious to everyone. using +/- to determine a players productivity in ONE game doesn't work. NO SHERLOCK!
Furthermore, so far you've failed to statistically prove that using +/- to determine a players productivity even on a large sample size is better than more proven statistical methods. I'm not holding my breath.
i've read everything you've posted which is why you're being called out (and not just by me). You tell me...What are your other arguments?
statistics arguments are about as as you can get because you can take whatever stats you want and bend them to suit your arguments. your gay stats. You're an unadulterated bonner hater and you're straight up denying that is the reason you have a problem with this thread. You are a pussy i saaaaaaaaid.
There are other posters I had conversations with about Matt Bonner, both privately and publicly, that know I don't hate him at all...I know absolutely nothing about statistics
But who cares what the thispego thinks anyways?
wow, seriously, ElNono ...i would just ignore that thispego guy if i were you.
Don't look now, but Bonner is also making a strong turnaround from the perimeter.
Matt Bonner now ranks 7th in NBA 3-Pt %, while being tied for 2nd most Makes out of the top 10. And that's after a pretty bad start to the season.
(On a side-note, Ginobili has steadily worked his way up to 15th)
haha, yeah you love changing the subject when you know you are wrong.
I know enough about statistics to know they can ruin an argument.
everyone cares what thispego thinks. even you. pussy
you're a puss too. you learn how to speak english yet?
Solid D needs to change his water.
Nice, coming from the wearer of a thread-bare Bonner jersey.
Really??? So when he jumps up and swats it out to the guards that will count as an off rebound? I didn't know that.
Three Cheers for Matt! a great role-player who no longer has to start at center and is filling his designated spot with average to above average play!
To me, he's another piece to our puzzle. He's probably more important to this team's chances of winning, and also less important to this teams chances of winning. As stated before, we can't have all-stars at every position, so let's accept who we do have. A near 7 footer who's still on the good side of 30, is getting better every game, hustles his ass off, and can stroke the 3 with the best of 'em.
As Solid D already pointed out, +32 in 17 minutes is too wild a statistic to be taken as anything other than an anomaly.
Actually, Matt didn't even do much when he was on the court. He hit his two threes and watched others increasing the lead even more (Manu especially) - and he wasn't on the court when things looked ugly for a while at the end of the first half.
But Bonner has been looking very solid the last couple of games. His three point shooting is great right now. If he could hit 45% in the playoffs ... well, that would be too awesome to even think about.
As said in a mul ude of posts, if he's hitting his shots, then he can do no wrong. What's not to love about a guy like that?
backtracking gold!
Nine days ago...backtracking gold!
"if he's hitting his shots it's good, if he's missing his shots it's bad." You are a in genius of epic proportions. How are you not employed by the nba? wasted talent, it's a shame
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