The Official Tony Parker Sucks Thread

[timvp]

I think TP can play his way to health. He's not as injured as he was in 2008 when he could barely run and had to miss a few weeks. He's not 100% but I don't think he's so injured that he has to be shut down.

TP needs to up the intensity and enthusiasm out of preseason mode. He's been able to sleepwalk in regular seasons in the past but this team doesn't have enough cohesion to play without energy.

Overall, I think TP's struggles this season are overstated by most but he definitely needs to raise his level of play a few notches if the Spurs have a prayer to be elite. If he keeps playing at this level, the Spurs are one and done in the playoffs.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Perrenial fans of a given team start to pick up on trends, on cycles, continuities in regards to discussion about their team.

For us as Spurs fans, we have to constantly face and stomach and swallow the fact that our foreign players wear the out of themselves over the summer, and the human body just cannot tolerate this no matter how hardy the player is. Ginobili at least won a Gold medal in one of his endeavors. But I was still pissed like no other at his foreign ass for playing last olympics on a HURT ANKLE when any intelligent human in their right mind knew the USA was going to steamroll the compe ion like Miami against UT in the cottonbowl.

Parker playing last summer was just flat out senseless.
And here we are again. Watching our players age super fast and struggling to stay above .500

[Xevious]

He did suck tonight but he wasn't alone... cough*RJ*cough

Ginobili didn't exactly do a bang up job himself. Duncan can only do so much all by himself.

[Chieflion]

Use your ignore list... Ducks doesn't even really like TP -- it's an act that started to piss off Manu fans because he doesn't like Manu.

Just messing with ducks, Kori, I am not mad at him, just having fun. His schtick is getting old and lame fast though.

[VI_Massive]

Parker got no help on pick-and-roll defense to start the game, then panicked to make up for it on the other end ... which resulted in a damn horrible performance.

It looked to me like Parker and then Hill were both getting killed on the pick and roll, leaving Nash open on jumpers, Frye open on jumpers, or other bigs open to the basket. I kept thinking it was Parker/Hill failures. Did you see otherwise?

[SpursRulez4eVeR]

I think TP can play his way to health...

but his excuse for not playing well is of his health (if i recalled correctly in one of his interview)

[DPG21920]

Parker was looking much better the last 3 games though. This was a major regression again. I know he is injured, but why the difference from the last 3 games and today? The Spurs have absolutely no shot at winning if TP is not healthy, so take the lumps now and hope he and the rest of the Spurs get healthy.

[Buddy Holly]

This thread proves how far this forum has fallen. You peopleare pathetic..

Says the guy who epically quit on a struggling Spurs team on THIS very same forum. I guess that was when this forum was at it's peak in quality, huh? You're such a giant hypocritical bag it's not even funny.

And just to save you time because I know this will be your lame ass come back... n'sync!! nsync!! justin timberlake!!

[Buddy Holly]

Parker was looking much better the last 3 games though.

This years Spurs team always look good/terrific/awesome/championship caliber versus ting teams, which happens to be who we faced the last three games prior to tonight.

[ducks]

normal the spurs go over the screen they went under tonight
why I do not know
that is on pop not players

[z0sa]

This years Spurs team always look good/terrific/awesome/championship caliber versus ting teams, which happens to be who we faced the last three games prior to tonight.

The problem is: are the Phoenix suns really that great of a team?

[DPG21920]

This years Spurs team always look good/terrific/awesome/championship caliber versus ting teams, which happens to be who we faced the last three games prior to tonight.

I was referring just to TP and how he looked. His explosiveness and his sharpness. Spurs go from looking young to old overnight. TP looked pretty much back to 100% physically the last 3 games then tonight he makes you worry that he has lost a step.

Then you just have to remember he is still young and still injured.

[murpjf88]

Tony's has played so bad, people have forgotten how bad RJ is.

[ducks]

where is the official hill suck thread
where is the official manu suck thread
7 points tonight
5 points against jazz
where is the official thread of rj sucks

[ducks]

I was referring just to TP and how he looked. His explosiveness and his sharpness. Spurs go from looking young to old overnight. TP looked pretty much back to 100% physically the last 3 games then tonight he makes you worry that he has lost a step.

Then you just have to remember he is still young and still injured.

suns played with more engery and had their best game all year tonight
spurs got down used alot of energy to get back in it

[timvp]

It looked to me like Parker and then Hill were both getting killed on the pick and roll, leaving Nash open on jumpers, Frye open on jumpers, or other bigs open to the basket. I kept thinking it was Parker/Hill failures. Did you see otherwise?

The bigs have to slow Nash enough for TP/Hill to get back into the picture after a pick. For much of the first half, the bigs were not only letting Nash get all the way to the rim, they left the bigs open, too. Basically, it was horrible pick-and-roll defense. TP could have fought more against the bigs but that was about the extent of his fault on those plays. A point guard doesn't have a chance if the bigs aren't going to help out at all.

[Chieflion]

The problem is: are the Phoenix suns really that great of a team?

Still perfect at home, so ya, superb team at home. In 2005, the Suns were the best road team in the NBA or something. They are still good.

[Buddy Holly]

The problem is: are the Phoenix suns really that great of a team?

They were always a great regular season team with Nash but lat season was a fluke because of O'Neal and the radical change the team made mentally.

[ducks]

The problem is: are the Phoenix suns really that great of a team?

suns are good if they control the tempo like tonight
and they were coming off a bad loss against nuggets and they HATE the spurs

[DPG21920]

suns played with more engery and had their best game all year tonight
spurs got down used alot of energy to get back in it

I know, but what does that have to do with TP's lack of energy and the way he looks physically?

[ducks]

The bigs have to slow Nash enough for TP/Hill to get back into the picture after a pick. For much of the first half, the bigs were not only letting Nash get all the way to the rim, they left the bigs open, too. Basically, it was horrible pick-and-roll defense. TP could have fought more against the bigs but that was about the extent of his fault on those plays. A point guard doesn't have a chance if the bigs aren't going to help out at all.

you mean it might have been duncan other people fault to besides tp they lost

[ElNono]

suns are good if they control the tempo like tonight
and they were coming off a bad loss against nuggets and they HATE the spurs

Oh, ok.... now I feel a lot better about losing this game...

[DPG21920]

The bigs have to slow Nash enough for TP/Hill to get back into the picture after a pick. For much of the first half, the bigs were not only letting Nash get all the way to the rim, they left the bigs open, too. Basically, it was horrible pick-and-roll defense. TP could have fought more against the bigs but that was about the extent of his fault on those plays. A point guard doesn't have a chance if the bigs aren't going to help out at all.

I said in the game thread that everyone as a team was making the dumbest decisions when guarding Nash that I have ever seen.

[SpursRulez4eVeR]

every guard of that suns team attacked TP like he wasn't even there and successfully do so

[DPG21920]

At this point, I am not even looking at if he is scoring or his stats, I am just watching his movements and energy. Last 3 games pretty damn close to 100%, this game, severely regressed.