Kobe’s lesson to Tiger: Winning trumps all

[JamStone]

damn i 'd hate to agree w/miami about anything, but....seriously i don't think kobe understood her saying "no" as a true no, until he didn't finish and was being questioned by the cops. even in his first statement to cops, he was already bringing up money and saying that he stopped after he realized that she meant "no" meant don't finish.

so by your "he didn't think he was raping her" mentality if i don't think beating the out of someone would kill them, and it did, should i be guilty of murder or battery?

You would be guilty of battery if you are intending to beat the out of someone. But if your intent was only to beat the out of that someone, it would not be murder unless you had the intent to murder or were acting with a willful neglect for life and they can prove that. If it's proven you only intended to beat the out of that someone but did not intend to kill them, it's not murder. But, it would be very likely manslaughter. There are different types of "intent" attached to different crimes.

And, with your example, you are using two crimes (battery and murder), one lesser than the other. In Kobe's case, you have one crime (rape or sexual assault) and another that isn't crime (rough sex). The analogy is not congruent.

[Fpoonsie]

Specifically, the 3:30 mark...

[gmartin02]

Tiger has more trouble. BBall players are expected to be aholes and sleep around. Golfers on the other hand have sponsors who depend on old rich white guys to buy their crap. Golfing requires a different standard of person than bball.

What surprises me is it's been happening for a while and then BAM! it hits him all at once. Almost like a coordinated attack by the media.

A lot of old rich married white guys have mistresses

[ChrisRichards]

MiamiHeat owning this thread with logic.

[024]

so this article claims to get away with rape, or to you kobe lovers, "cheating on your wife/adultery" you just have to win a lot in sports. wtf?

and yes, kobe admitted he believed the girl didn't feel the sex was consensual. that would make it rape. because that is the definition of rape. unconsensual sex. just one side needs to not give consent. i don't know how it can be any clearer.