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    No, you're right. I had a temporary brain cramp and forgot you liberals beielve in living off the generosity of the government. I also forgot that too many people now get married without the means to support themselves.
    I think I had a brain cramp in thinking you wanted to discuss an issue instead of just throwing against the wall.

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    I think I had a brain cramp in thinking you wanted to discuss an issue instead of just throwing against the wall.
    WC proceeds straight to abstraction, skipping the details.

    You start off by denying what the other poster said. Then you try to ins ute loyalty to an arbitrary, sometimes completely made up, desideratum.
    Last edited by Winehole23; 12-27-2009 at 05:25 AM.

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    http://www.openeducation.net/2009/01...in-the-coffin/

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm..._sexed20m.html

    That's just the first couple articles that come up with a little Google search. It's pretty well-do ented that abstinence-only sex ed is a complete waste of money and time because it does not do what it is supposed to: curb teen pregnancy rates and prevent the spread of disease. On the other hand, comprehensive sex ed has been known to do both those things. Go figure.
    I have noticed that you keep saying abstinence only programs. No one has ever stated that. Maybe that is your distorted view of what is goingon. I doubt you have really looked into what the programs are and are just against them. That is completely in line with your average open mindedness on this board.
    Conventional "safe sex" programs (sometimes erroneously called "abstinence plus" programs) place little or no emphasis on encouraging young people to abstain from early sexual activity. Instead, such programs strongly promote condom use and implicitly condone sexual activity among teens. Nearly all such programs contain material and messages that would be alarming and offensive to the overwhelming majority of parents.
    Your links just reiterate what you said. Which is a lie.
    Since condom use has been on the rise, so has stds.

    Effective Abstinence Programs

    Critics of abstinence education often assert that while abstinence education that exclusively promotes abstaining from premarital sex is a good idea in theory, there is no evidence that such education can actually reduce sexual activity among young people. Such criticism is erroneous. There are currently 10 scientific evaluations (described below) that demonstrate the effectiveness of abstinence programs in altering sexual behavior.18 Each of the programs evaluated is a real abstinence (or what is conventionally termed an "abstinence only") program; that is, the program does not provide contraceptives or encourage their use.

    The abstinence programs and their evaluations are as follows:

    Virginity Pledge Programs. An article in the Journal of the American Medical Association by Dr. Michael Resnick and others en led "Protecting Adolescents From Harm: Findings from the National Longitudinal Study on Adolescent Health" shows that "abstinence pledge" programs are dramatically effective in reducing sexual activity among teenagers in grades 7 through 12.19 Based on a large national sample of adolescents, the study concludes that "Adolescents who reported having taken a pledge to remain a virgin were at significantly lower risk of early age of sexual debut."20
    In fact, the study found that participating in an abstinence program and taking a formal pledge of virginity were by far the most significant factors in a youth's delaying early sexual activity. The study compared students who had taken a formal pledge of virginity with students who had not taken a pledge but were otherwise identical in terms of race, income, school performance, degree of religiousness, and other social and demographic factors. Based on this analysis, the authors discovered that the level of sexual activity among students who had taken a formal pledge of virginity was one-fourth the level of that of their counterparts who had not taken a pledge. Overall, nearly 16 percent of girls and 10 percent of boys were found to have taken a virginity pledge.

    Not Me, Not Now. Not Me, Not Now is a community-wide abstinence intervention targeted to 9- to 14-year-olds in Monroe County, New York, which includes the city of Rochester. The Not Me, Not Now program devised a mass communications strategy to promote the abstinence message through paid TV and radio advertising, billboards, posters distributed in schools, educational materials for parents, an interactive Web site, and educational sessions in school and community settings. The program sought to communicate five themes: raising awareness of the problem of teen pregnancy, increasing an understanding of the negative consequences of teen pregnancy, developing resistance to peer pressure, promoting parent-child communication, and promoting abstinence among teens.
    Not Me, Not Now was effective in reaching early teen listeners, with some 95 percent of the target audience within the county reporting that they had seen a Not Me, Not Now ad. During the intervention period, the program achieved a statistically significant positive shift in at udes among pre-teens and early teens in the county. The sexual activity rate of 15-year-olds across the county (as reported in the Youth Risk Behavior Survey21 ) dropped by a statistically significant amount from 46.6 percent to 31.6 percent during the intervention period. Finally, the pregnancy rate for girls aged 15 through 17 in Monroe County fell by a statistically significant amount, from 63.4 pregnancies per 1,000 girls to 49.5 pregnancies per 1,000. The teen pregnancy rate fell more rapidly in Monroe County than in comparison counties and in upstate New York in general, and the difference in the rate of decrease was statistically significant.22

    Operation Keepsake. Operation Keepsake is an abstinence program for 12- and 13-year-old children in Cleveland, Ohio. Some 77 percent of the children in the program were black or Hispanic. An evaluation of the program in 2001, involving a sample of over 800 students, found that "Operation Keepsake had a clear and sustainable impact on...abstinence beliefs." The evaluation showed that the program reduced the rate of onset of sexual activity (loss of virginity) by roughly two-thirds relative to comparable students in control schools who did not participate in the program. In addition, the program reduced by about one-fifth the rate of current sexual activity among those with prior sexual experience.23

    Abstinence by Choice. Abstinence by Choice operates in 20 schools in the Little Rock area of Arkansas. The program targets 7th, 8th, and 9th grade students and reaches about 4,000 youths each year. A recent evaluation, involving a sample of nearly 1,000 students, shows that the program has been highly effective in changing the at udes that are directly linked to early sexual activity. Moreover, the program reduced the sexual activity rates of girls by approximately 40 percent (from 10.2 percent to 5.9 percent) and the rate for boys by approximately 30 percent (from 22.8 percent to 15.8 percent) when compared with similar students who had not been exposed to the program. (The sexual activity rate of students in the program was compared with the rate of sexual activity among control students in the same grade in the same schools prior to the commencement of the program.)24

    Virginity Pledge Movement. A 2001 evaluation of the effectiveness of the virginity pledge movement using data from the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health finds that virginity pledge programs are highly effective in helping adolescents to delay sexual activity. According to the authors of the study:
    Adolescents who pledge, controlling for all of the usual characteristics of adolescents and their social contexts that are associated with the transition to sex, are much less likely than adolescents who do not pledge, to have intercourse. The delay effect is substantial and robust. Pledging delays intercourse for a long time.25
    The study, based on a sample of more than 5,000 students, concludes that taking a virginity pledge reduces by one-third the probability that an adolescent will begin sexual activity compared with other adolescents of the same gender and age, after controlling for a host of other factors linked to sexual activity rates such as physical maturity, parental disapproval of sexual activity, school achievement, and race. When taking a virginity pledge is combined with strong parental disapproval of sexual activity, the probability of initiation of sexual activity is reduced by 75 percent or more.

    Teen Aid and Sex Respect. An evaluation of the Teen Aid and Sex Respect abstinence programs in three school districts in Utah showed that both programs were effective among the students who were at the greatest risk of initiating sexual activity. Approximately 7,000 high school and middle school students participated in the evaluation. To determine the effects of the programs, students in schools with the abstinence programs were compared with students in similar control schools within the same school district. Statistical adjustments were applied to further control for any initial differences between program participants and control students. The programs together were shown to reduce the rate of initiation of sexual activity among at-risk high school students by over a third when compared with a control group of similar students who were not exposed to the program.26 Statistically significant changes in behavior were not found among junior high students.

    When high school and junior high school students were examined together, Sex Respect was shown to reduce the rate of initiation of sexual activity among at-risk students by 25 percent when compared with a control group of similar students who were not exposed to the program. Teen Aid was found to reduce the initiation of sex activity by some 17 percent. A third non-abstinence program, Values and Choices, which offered non-directive or value-free instruction in sex education and decision-making, was found to have no impact on sexual behavior.

    Family Accountability Communicating Teen Sexuality (FACTS). An evaluation performed for the national le XX abstinence program examined the effectiveness of the Family Accountability Communicating Teen Sexuality abstinence program in reducing teen sexual activity. The evaluation assessed the FACTS program by comparing a sample of students who participated in the program with a group of comparable students in separate control schools who did not participate in the program. The experimental and control students together comprised a sample of 308 students. The evaluation found the FACTS program to be highly effective in delaying the onset of sexual activity. Students who participated in the program were 30 percent to 50 percent less likely to commence sexual activity than were those who did not participate.27

    Postponing Sexual Involvement (PSI). Postponing Sexual Involvement was an abstinence program developed by Grady Memorial Hospital in Atlanta, Georgia, and provided to low-income 8th grade students. A study published in Family Planning Perspectives, based on a sample of 536 low-income students, showed that the PSI program was effective in altering sexual behavior.28 A comparison of the program participants with a control population of comparable low-income minority students who did not participate showed that PSI reduced the rate of initiation of sexual activity during the 8th grade by some 60 percent for boys and over 95 percent for girls.29 As the study explained:
    The program had a pronounced effect on the behavior of both boys and girls who had not been sexually involved before the program.... By the end of eighth grade, boys who had not had the program were more than three times as likely to have begun having sex as were boys who had the program.... Girls who had not had the program were as much as 15 times more likely to have begun having sex as were girls who had had the program.30
    The effects of the program lasted into the next school year even though no additional sessions were provided. By the end of the 9th grade, boys and girls who had participated in PSI were still some 35 percent less likely to have commenced sexual activity than were those who had not participated in the abstinence program.31

    Project Taking Charge. Project Taking Charge is a six-week abstinence curriculum delivered in home economics classes during the school year. It was designed for use in low-income communities with high rates of teen pregnancy. The curriculum contains these elements: self-development; basic information about sexual biology (anatomy, physiology, and pregnancy); vocational goal-setting; family communication; and values instruction on the importance of delaying sexual activity until marriage. The effect of the program has been evaluated in two sites: Wilmington, Delaware, and West Point, Mississippi. The evaluation was based on a small sample of 91 adolescents. Control and experimental groups were created by randomly assigning classrooms to either receive or not receive the program. The students were assessed immediately before and after the program and through a six-month follow-up.

    In the six-month follow-up, Project Taking Charge was shown to have had a statistically significant effect in increasing adolescents' knowledge of the problems associated with teen pregnancy, the problems of sexually transmitted diseases, and reproductive biology. The program was also shown to reduce the rate of onset of sexual activity by 50 percent relative to the students in the control group, although the authors urge caution in the interpretation of these numbers due to the small size of the evaluation sample.32

    Teen Aid Family Life Education Project. The Teen Aid Family Life Education Project is a widely used abstinence education program for high school and junior high students. An evaluation of the effectiveness of Teen Aid, involving a sample of over 1,300 students, was performed in 21 schools in California, Idaho, Oregon, Mississippi, Utah, and Washington. The Teen Aid program was shown to have a statistically significant effect in reducing the rate of initiation of sexual activity (loss of virginity) among high-risk high school students, compared with similar students in control schools. Among at-risk high school students who participated in the program, the rate of initiation of sexual activity was cut by more than one-fourth, from 37 percent to 27 percent. A similar pattern of reduction was found among at-risk junior high school students, but the effects did not achieve statistical significance. The program did not have statistically significant effects among lower-risk students.33

    http://www.heritage.org/Research/Abstinence/BG1533.cfm

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    So you're saying condom use increases STDs? I can't tell, because you're always all over the place.

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    Twelve Anti-Family Gifts from Congress
    by Katherine Bradley


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    1.Elimination of abstinence education.
    How about the state doesn't "educate" children about sex whatsoever?

    2.Spreading the wealth.
    Well, sure. But it's not like the GOP hasn't done its part in regards to this.


    3.Needle exchange.
    Sure, we shouldn't subsidize drug users. We shouldn't criminalize them either.


    4.Planned Parenthood funding.
    Agreed.

    5.United Nations Population Fund (UNFPA)
    Agreed.

    6.International family planning.
    How about we ban all "funding" to the UN?

    7..Limiting free speech
    Agreed. Limiting speech because it is popular is ing stupid. And uncons utional.


    8.Ending the D.C. Scholarship Program.
    No subsidization for private schools. And down with public schools.



    9.Public funding of abortion.
    Agreed. Time to end subsidization of all health procedures.


    10.Taxpayer-financed domestic partner benefits.
    No benefits for any public servant's "partner."

    11.Legalized medical marijuana.
    Disagree with the subsidization, but not the legalization.


    12.Needle exchange for drug abusers.
    Same as above, but the 1,000 feet ban is stupid. Unless the money wasted on public school security isn't.

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    Of course, I disagree with the assumption that the state should be expected to be "pro-family."

    As well as the assumption that the state has the right whatsoever to interfere with families whatsoever. It's amazing what we accept so blindly, as long as it's posited as emanating from "experts" and/or wrapped in the flag.

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    How about the state doesn't "educate" children about sex whatsoever?



    Well, sure. But it's not like the GOP hasn't done its part in regards to this.




    Sure, we shouldn't subsidize drug users. We shouldn't criminalize them either.




    Agreed.



    Agreed.



    How about we ban all "funding" to the UN?



    Agreed. Limiting speech because it is popular is ing stupid. And uncons utional.




    No subsidization for private schools. And down with public schools.




    Agreed. Time to end subsidization of all health procedures.




    No benefits for any public servant's "partner."



    Disagree with the subsidization, but not the legalization.




    Same as above, but the 1,000 feet ban is stupid. Unless the money wasted on public school security isn't.
    I agree with all.

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    Our society is spiraling out of control in moral values, in so many ways. I just hope God doesn't make me live long enough to see the destruction of this nation.


    YOU SPEND ALL DAY IN A DISCUSSION FORUM. You're complaining about this country being destroyed, yet you yourself are utter non-contributor?


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