Yeah, well blacks discriminate too. As do hispanics, asians, whites, etc...
The difference is there is no government sanctioned racial discrimination...unless you count affirmative action, preferential hiring, weighted university entrance requirements.
Actually, I think the vast majority of America is done discriminating on racial grounds. With the exception of the AA you mentoined, which I'm not a fan of.
But there has been a certain group that was central to all to the vast majority of discrimination in this country.
It's not the group with the most money as well, and suprise suprise, we've moved on to discrimnation based on finances.
it appears that a big percentage of blacks(aged 20-30) are trying to take the easy way out by choosing a path of criminal activities..this their choice...
That's a whole other argument...
While deviating from the black discussion a little, THE REASON IS -> current drug laws + capitalism = bad chemistry.
We are literally taxed to death by our collective morality.
Oops, I think I'm getting off-topic.
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Poverty combined with rabid Materialism.
Materlism in a society run by corporations? THE YOU SAY!
yes, but that doesn't explain the 13% of blacks to 3% of mexicans in jail... i think some choose the easy way out...others work 2 jobs washing dishes, cooking, etc..
wtf ever!
and that is the wrong at ude... quit making excuses...do something to change your situation...
do you want me to read books about how young black males make excuses instead of trying to make a life for themself?
13% of black men in late 20s in jail or prison
87% of black men in late 20's NOT in jail or prison.
97% of Mexicans
and
99% of Whites
N O T in jail of prison.
I believe that the large number of young blacks ending up in jail has a lot to do with growing up in single-parent households. Look at the numbers in this file in Table C3.
http://www.census.gov/population/www...m/cps2003.html
The % of black kids living in a family with 2 married parents is 36%.
The % of hispanic kids living in a family with 2 married parents is 65%.
The % of white (non-hispanic) kids living in a family with 2 married parents is 77%.
I'm not saying that everyone who grows up without two parents is messed up and turns criminal. But the difference in percentages between the racial groups is definitely something to consider.
I think that is definetly a huge factor in that. In general, growing up in poverty and a poor environment increases the likelyhood you will fall into crime.
great find, but why do some choose to break the cycle and others don't? why do some choose to hide behind excuses and live a life of crime while others choose to try to get an education... college is available to everyone. especially poor minorities. loans and grants are abundant.
Because it's not that easy jackass. You're so self righteous in your stance on all of this and how they should have made the right decisions, but I wonder how you would have faired growing up in the projects.
It's not easy to grasp that going to college can be a good thing for you when the only life you've known is poverty and being surrounded by crime. It's not easy to understand that working hard in school is the way to succeed when that doesn't get you paid but slinging rock on the corner does. It's not easy when social acceptance comes not from doing well in school, but doing the opposite. It's harder still when the most successfull ones out of your culture aren't businessmen who go to school, but playground legends who play basketball for a living. Or when America glorifies the worst aspects of life in songs that get constant airplay on MTV and the radio. Who do you think is a bigger role model, Harriet Tubman, or 50 cent?
Give me a break. They do have decisions, and some choose to get out, but life isn't some multiple choice take home test with obvious answers.
i grew up in a single parent family and so did my girlfriend. she didn't even have ac or anything like that. i grew up in a trailer. we both have succeeded in life. it does not take a genius to know that an education will get you out of poverty. and if you can't see that an education will get you out of the projects than you have more problems than can be solved...
Did you grow up in the environment I talked about above?
did you?
Actually, I started out in projects and up untill the age of 9 thats were we lived. No big deal, just had a gun pulled on me by the age of 8. But thats not the point, because even with all that I didn't grow up in that environment.
So, the answer to your question is no, I didn't.
but you did til age 9 and you are not in jail or prison and seem to understand that education is key...
Did your mom (or whoever raised you) help instill the importance of education to you?i grew up in a single parent family and so did my girlfriend. she didn't even have ac or anything like that. i grew up in a trailer. we both have succeeded in life. it does not take a genius to know that an education will get you out of poverty. and if you can't see that an education will get you out of the projects than you have more problems than can be solved...
This is probably not a good thing to say, but I think a lot of this is perpetuated by the at ude of single, black women with kids in the ghetto. Since they were "scorned" by their man and left with their children, they don't treat their sons properly. Instead of teaching them importance of family values, education, and long-term security, they only emphasize the importance of "doing whatever you can" to get out of the ghetto.
When young pre-teen and teenage boys see opportunities like drug dealing, guns, whatever to make money, they see that as the ticket out.
It's about providing role models for your children. And a big percentage of black women in lower income areas don't do that. They constantly are ragging on how all " s" don't take care of their women (yes, this is the fault of the men who aren't there to be dads too). Young girls grow up with the idea that all black men will treat them like dogs. Young boys grow up with the idea that all black women are just ho's. And it just perpetuates to the next generation.
The black male role models that these young boys have are either sports stars (a long shot for anyone to achieve) or gangstas turned rappers or movie stars. They aren't provided with black male role models who achieved success through education, starting a business, etc.
I used to coach inner city basketball in South Central LA (boys ages 14-17) and they were all looking for "the ticket out". Until their mothers start stressing that there's no ticket, but there's a plan. It will keep perpetuating to the next generation.
This is the last time I'm going to try to put it where you can grasp it, and if you don't get it after this, I sincerely give up.
That situation doesn't mean that you're going to end up in jail. It puts you in a position where you are more likely to go to jail. In other words, if you place a group of 100 people in that position, and you place 100 in a favorable position to succeed, which group do you think will have more people in jail?
They all had choices, and they all were told that college was the better way to go, but the group in the projects with undoubtbly show a much higher rate of incarceration. Just like in the study you posted.
That's not to say that they shouldn't be incarcerated if they commit a crime, but it does provide an understanding as to what is happening on a sociological level.
In other words, if you understand what is happening and what causes large groups of black americans to go down this path, you can start to solve and stop it.
But if we all just sit back and say they have choices, and that is the only thing we do about it, do not expect those numbers to change overnight. America has no problem exploiting those same groups. MTV , record labels, and the entertainment industry as a whole has made billions on the commercializing of the ghettos.
Critics everywhere love a movie like 8 mile because it shows that a person can succeed in that situation, but then everyone goes back to ignoring those people once again.
If Eminem is the beacon of hope for your community, that's pretty damn sad.
Slavery, discrimination, and poverty are not free passes for African Americans today. They still have to abide by the same laws as the rest of us. And I never said or even implied otherwise. But what needs to be recognized and tackled, is that as long as these people grow up in the same conditions as they do now, there will be a much higher rate of criminal activity.
I believe that every time another single woman has a child without a father, it sends a message to young men that says, "Kids don't need fathers." But when those same men don't want to take care of their kids... aren't they getting conflicting messages?
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