Damn you can't pull that card with a trolling avatar pic like that.
Wow. Buying a one-way ticket with cash and bringing a carry-on makes you a terrorist? LMAO. What the ? That's the stupidest thing I have ever read here, which is really saying a lot with the Wild Cobras and spursncowboys of the world polluting this forum with their nonsense.
It's not their fault... people like Crookskanks have been indoctrinated into believing such and being scared.
Absolutely. My answer is I don't have the first damn clue. Maybe he was an early riser and liked to pack in the morning. And maybe he didn't have any friends. I'm an educated man, but I'm afraid I can't speak intelligently about the travel habits of William Santiago. What I do know is that he was set to leave the base at 0600. Now, are these the questions I was really called here to answer? Phone calls and foot lockers? Please tell me that you have something more, Lieutenant. These two Marines are on trial for their lives. Please tell me their lawyer hasn't pinned their hopes to a phone bill.
Indeed. It's actually more common than most think.
I've done the AMS to DTW leg many times and you see some pretty strange on those flights.
The odd thing to me is that the security at Schipol is usually pretty good.
You should copyright that and send it to the networks. srs
I guess multiple federal air marshals are stupid. It's a sign that fits a common profile. Not as solid as a father contacting an embassy and telling them his son could be a terrorist, but a sign nonetheless.
The 'paid with cash' profile narrows it down to basically almost all of third world country citizens, most of which have no access to credit.
Some profiles do work for america in general, but when your target is foreign nationals, you simply need to stop regurgitating the bull you heard on Fox news and use your head instead.
As far as his dad's warnings... Well, how many of those do the government receive each day? I'll tell you that if the number is small, then I will agree is silly not to go into a fishing expedition... but I would think the number is pretty high, and so how do you asses what leads to follow or not?
Wouldn't that be a weak point to be exploited by the enemy?
Hmmm - even CAIR agrees with my statement. They said you can't profile just on a person's skin color or the fact they're muslim, but those other things - like buying a one-way ticket with cash and not checking any luggage - those are legitimate profiling red flags.
You libs just won't admit this was a screw-up and it was a miracle no one but the would-be bomber was injured.
Oh - and considering WHO his father was and is - his concerns should've been taken more seriously. This wasn't some poor, uneducated dude making rambling statements.
I always buy my ticket with cash because buying something with money you don't have on a credit card is re ed. I hate checking luggage if I don't need to because the airlines are incompetent and I don't like having to wait days to get my bag back when they lose it. I guess logic screams terrorism.
Crookshanks is right that the one-way ticket/cash/no checked luggage are some of the common profiling tactics. When I lived in L.A. and was coming to visit San Antonio on the weekends, I would get one-way tickets (because they were discounted) and not check luggage, and I'd get pulled out of line for further review every time. Finally the airport security just told me to stop buying one-way tickets in cash and then I wouldn't have three flags every trip. And I was just a white girl traveling domestically
I wasn't aware that foreign posters were so interested and knowledgeable concerning US political affairs. Maybe i should start reading up on Argentinian political policy.
TSA's really going to love my cash-paying, no bag-checking, one-way flying ass next time when I also bring my metal Bill of Rights (that I got at the Penn & Teller Show's giftshop in Vegas) through the metal detector next time I fly.Crookshanks is right that the one-way ticket/cash/no checked luggage are some of the common profiling tactics. When I lived in L.A. and was coming to visit San Antonio on the weekends, I would get one-way tickets (because they were discounted) and not check luggage, and I'd get pulled out of line for further review every time. Finally the airport security just told me to stop buying one-way tickets in cash and then I wouldn't have three flags every trip. And I was just a white girl traveling domestically
haha i agree...but that doesn't mean they wont won't take you to a room and strip you booty ass naked once you start getting mouthy.TSA's really going to love my cash-paying, no bag-checking, one-way flying ass next time when I also bring my metal Bill of Rights (that I got at the Penn & Teller Show's giftshop in Vegas) through the metal detector next time I fly.
I'm not a foreign poster. I live in America and travel both domestically and internationally all the time. And maybe you should read up more on global affairs. Certainly won't hurt.
If you want to make this about me, just start a new thread. We're discussing something else here.
Last edited by ElNono; 12-29-2009 at 09:23 AM.
You can easily create a profile for Americans flying either domestically or internationally with the paid-with-cash red flag. But credit cards are a lot less common than the average American thinks they are internationally. Take Nigeria, where this guy was coming from: Credit card usage is pretty much non-existent. It's only pretty much reserved to top of the line luxury hotels. Almost every Nigerian will pay cash for their plane tickets this year.Crookshanks is right that the one-way ticket/cash/no checked luggage are some of the common profiling tactics. When I lived in L.A. and was coming to visit San Antonio on the weekends, I would get one-way tickets (because they were discounted) and not check luggage, and I'd get pulled out of line for further review every time. Finally the airport security just told me to stop buying one-way tickets in cash and then I wouldn't have three flags every trip. And I was just a white girl traveling domestically
The one-way/no luggage parts we can certainly argue about.
In college, I flew to DFW all the time and I paid with cash and did not check baggage. I was just going for the weekend and only needed a carry-on. Who wants to wait for their baggage?
had similar incident here this year, some international student killed some fella, dude manage to buy a ticket with cash on someone elses passport same night and flee the country, dude is still on the run in india and they wont turn him in over to aus authorities.....oh wait a $12b trade deal between aus-india is more important then trying to bring this wanker back to australia to face the justice system.Crookshanks is right that the one-way ticket/cash/no checked luggage are some of the common profiling tactics. When I lived in L.A. and was coming to visit San Antonio on the weekends, I would get one-way tickets (because they were discounted) and not check luggage, and I'd get pulled out of line for further review every time. Finally the airport security just told me to stop buying one-way tickets in cash and then I wouldn't have three flags every trip. And I was just a white girl traveling domestically
ppl that are su ious, do they sit nexto t he air marshals? lol this guy mustve been in the right place at the right time....
Joe "Mad Jew/Kill All the Muslims NOW!" Lieberman is using this attack to call for yet another war on Muslims in Yemen or wherever.
Let's see all you kids and grand kids get drafted to fight your bull wars, Joe.
imo, the whole "sneaking-a-bomb-onto-an-airplane-in-the-crotch-of-my-pants" scenario is far more distressing than whether the idiot paid with cash or credit. and the fact that crookskanks wants to pin blame on democrats makes her an even bigger idiot than the crotch-bomber, imo.
Hey Crooky, here's some facts which counter your terrorism-is-Magic-Negro's fault, not that you'd ever let facts puncture your fantasy.
Thanks to GOP Obstructionists, TSA Has Little Money, No One In Charge
By Steve Benen, Washington Monthly
Posted on December 29, 2009, Printed on December 29, 2009
http://www.alternet.org/bloggers/htt...ly.com/144848/
DEMINT BLOCKS TSA NOMINEE.... A few weeks ago, there was a mildly embarrassing dust-up over the Transportation Security Administration posting materials online that, if manipulated, revealed sensitive security information. When "The Daily Show" did a segment on this, Jon Stewart highlighted the fact that the TSA doesn't actually have an administrator.
What Stewart didn't mention is why.An attempt to blow up a trans-Atlantic flight from Amsterdam to Detroit on Christmas Day would be all-consuming for the administrator of the Transportation Security Administration -- if there were one.President Obama nominated Erroll Southers, a former FBI special agent and a counterterrorism expert, to head the TSA a few months ago. Southers is the Los Angeles World Airports Police Department assistant chief for homeland security and intelligence, and the associate director of the University of Southern California's Center for Risk and Economic Analysis of Terrorism Events. Two Senate committees considered the nomination, and easily approved Southers with bipartisan support.
Instead, the post remains vacant because Sen. Jim DeMint, R-S.C., has held up President Barack Obama's nominee in an effort to prevent TSA workers from joining a labor union.
But the Senate hasn't been able to vote on the nomination because DeMint hates unions, and isn't sure if Southers might allow TSA workers to organize. Without that guarantee, DeMint not only opposes Southers' nomination, but prefers to leave the Transportation Security Administration without a permanent administrator.
This realization, in the wake of the attempted terrorism on Christmas, should make DeMint back down. It hasn't -- he still supports blocking Southers' nomination until he knows TSA workers won't unionize. The terrorist threat is bad, but the threat of collective bargaining is the real danger.
Also note, congressional Republicans also opposed funding for the TSA, including money for screening operations and explosives detection systems.
The GOP is desperate to politicize the attempted terrorism. That's probably not a good idea.
© 2009 Washington Monthly All rights reserved.
View this story online at: http://www.alternet.org/bloggers/htt...ly.com/144848/
You seem to be having this debate only with yourself.
Hey boutons, you think if the TSA gets to unionize that won't have a (negative) effect on the quality of work from those folks? Wake the up and get out of mom's basement.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/men-be...ory?id=9434065Two of the four leaders allegedly behind the al Qaeda plot to blow up a Northwest Airlines passenger jet over Detroit were released by the U.S. from the Guantanamo prison in November, 2007, according to American officials and Department of Defense do ents...
...American officials agreed to send the two terrorists from Guantanamo to Saudi Arabia where they entered into an "art therapy rehabilitation program" and were set free, according to U.S. and Saudi officials.
(N.B., this is yet another Brian Ross story based on uncorroborated, anonymous gov't sources -- but I'll be interested to see how the tuff on terra diaper brigade spins this one, or doesn't. The temptation to use the story as a bulwark against the closing of the detention facility at Gitmo -- or the further release of detainees -- will be hard for some to resist, but the price will be accepting that GWB sent *terrorists* to art therapy.)
Last edited by Winehole23; 12-29-2009 at 12:37 PM.
"a (negative) effect on the quality of work from those folks"
it sucks already. what's the difference?
no funding and no director are less important than unions for deMented. SC has some truly entertaining Repug asshole politicians.
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