Rockets and Bulls talking trade

[mogrovejo]

Yes, yes he is [Landry better than Thomas] and by a big margin.

I agree.

The Rockets would be better by just negotiating a buy-out with McGrady. This particular trade is particularly horrific for them. Nonsensical rumour, I don't believe that Morey would even consider doing this trade.

[DPG21920]

It isn't worth giving up Landry to acquire Salmons, from a talent perspective or financially. Salmons can either become a free agent or pick up his $6M option next season, which means the Rockets have used most of their cap space on him. Thomas has to be resigned, so you are basically deciding between him and Scola, not to mention probably paying him more than the $3M that Landry is locked in at.

That trade is a piece of horse spit.

The proposed trade was James/Salmons/Miller for T-Mac I thought?

[Double-Up]

Agreed. Especially when you take into account that they do not want T-Mac to play period, having his expiring would not really change their cap situation and they would get 3 quality players out of the deal in exchange for one rotation player.

Jerome James though is one of the worst players in the NBA and is stealing money.

We're better off just letting him expire if all we're getting back is garbage. We will have max cap space if we decide to renounce Lowry and Scola's rights in 2010.

[Lars]

Landry is a deal breaker. Unless we are getting an all star in return McGrady is the only person leaving Houston.

[JMarkJohns]

A friend of mine has heard word that the Rockets are mulling over an offer of Jason Richardson and Barbosa for McGrady. My friend says it could be done by this weekend.

[DPG21920]

A friend of mine has heard word that the Rockets are mulling over an offer of Jason Richardson and Barbosa for McGrady. My friend says it could be done by this weekend.

Just a rumor I think that has no real legs. Discussed by Thorpe.

[JMarkJohns]

I think I'd rather have the savings of Miller and James' expiring along with Salmons for a few years than a little more talent, but greater cost in Richardson and Barbosa.

However, this move fits with Sarver, which is why I'm buying it.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I'd be fine with that. Neither J-Rich or Barbosa are ever going to reliable starting shooting guards. If Phoenix's training staff were able to help T-Mac he could surprise. That's a good trade.

[DPG21920]

I don't like that at all for the Suns. J-Rich has had a very good year and Barbosa, when healthy is a damn solid option.

If the Suns want to blow it up for the year, good trade, if they want to win, don't do it.

[JMarkJohns]

I'd be fine with that. Neither J-Rich or Barbosa are ever going to reliable starting shooting guards. If Phoenix's training staff were able to help T-Mac he could surprise. That's a good trade.

The trade goes through and all things expected to happen happen, the Suns will have 18+ million committed to Nash, Dragic, Dudley, Lopez and Clark and have roughly 35 million in CAP space. No draft picks, but they suck at those anyways. I'd like to see the Suns offer up Clark/Collins to New York for Hill. New York gets a solid versatile combo prospect and clears several million in CAP space with Collins' coming off the books at year's end.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I don't like that at all for the Suns. J-Rich has had a very good year and Barbosa, when healthy is a damn solid option.

If the Suns want to blow it up for the year, good trade, if they want to win, don't do it.

Barbosa is a scrub piece of . People about his stats because he likes to inflate his numbers during garbage time against bad teams. Any game against good teams, or any close game, he's worthless. As a Spurs fan you should know the kind of sackless pussy Barbosa is during crunch time.

J-Rich has had a great year but he's still not worth his contract.

[DPG21920]

Barbosa is not a scrub and I watch the Suns quite a bit. You may not like him, but he is certainly not a scurb. He has had an off year and a half, but he can regain his form imo.

If they trade Barbosa/Rich for Mac, they are throwing away all of the good they have accomplished this year. But if you think having that cap space can net you a great player next year, it may be worth it. But don't fool yourself into thinking T-Mac may surprise.

[Lars]

I'd be fine with that. Neither J-Rich or Barbosa are ever going to reliable starting shooting guards. If Phoenix's training staff were able to help T-Mac he could surprise. That's a good trade.

I love that trade, we are basically stacked at every position but SG. It makes us extremely balanced.

[mogrovejo]

That would be an excellent trade for the Suns. But, once again, I don't see Morey even thinking about doing such a trade.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

But don't fool yourself into thinking T-Mac may surprise.

Yeah that'd be dumb of me. This training staff did such a bad job with Grant Hill reviving T-Mac would be out of the question.

[JMarkJohns]

Yeah that'd be dumb of me. This training staff did such a bad job with Grant Hill reviving T-Mac would be out of the question.

And Shaq, and Amare's micro-fractured knee, and keeping Nash's back from being a much bigger issue...

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

And Shaq, and Amare's micro-fractured knee, and keeping Nash's back from being a much bigger issue...

Yeah, they pretty much ed up all of those players. If I were T-Mac I'd be scared to death the Phoenix training staff would get me a life threatening injury.

[angelbelow]

wow if the rockets trade Tmac and Landry for those 4 then that is an absolute steal for the rockets.

[ElNono]

Barbosa is not a scrub and I watch the Suns quite a bit. You may not like him, but he is certainly not a scurb. He has had an off year and a half, but he can regain his form imo.

If they trade Barbosa/Rich for Mac, they are throwing away all of the good they have accomplished this year. But if you think having that cap space can net you a great player next year, it may be worth it. But don't fool yourself into thinking T-Mac may surprise.

I watch the Suns quite a bit too and Barbosa is indeed garbage. He pulls a Houdini every time Phoenix plays serious team. Not that TMac has shown he can do in the post season, but they wouldn't necessarily be regressing in that department.

[ElNono]

Oh, and if the Rockets get Brad Miller, will Adelman push to get Bibby and Peja back too? Are we gonna see the Sacramento Rockets again?

[milkshakeballa]

Salmons is a slasher........If this trade goes down Bulls GM would have to be the most re ed ers out there....

ummm nooo

they want to trade salmons for an expiring because its looknig more and more likely by the day that he will NOT opt out...therefore not allowing CHI to offer a max contract...if they can trade Salmons for an expiring they will be good to get a MAX

Rose
Deng
MAX FA

Not a bad core at all in the East. Deng just needs to find his game again...

Hinrich (who they are also shopping hard for an expiring - he cannot mesh with Rose) is next.

[DPG21920]

I watch the Suns quite a bit too and Barbosa is indeed garbage. He pulls a Houdini every time Phoenix plays serious team. Not that TMac has shown he can do in the post season, but they wouldn't necessarily be regressing in that department.

I guess we differ on the definition of garbage then. In my mind there are garbage players, decent players, good/role players, excellent players and superstars.

He is in the good/role player group. But not the point of the thread.

[milkshakeballa]

Anyone that says they would rather have Thomas than Landry hasn't been paying much attention to Landry. I would much rather trade Scola than Landry, and I would never have said that at the beginning of the season.

this....

[crc21209]

Salmons + Miller on the Rockets with Battier, Brooks, Scola, and Ariza? Damn....hope this doesnt happen...

[milkshakeballa]

A friend of mine has heard word that the Rockets are mulling over an offer of Jason Richardson and Barbosa for McGrady. My friend says it could be done by this weekend.

that is an absolute ing steal for PHOENIX if true...