Page 3 of 5 FirstFirst 12345 LastLast
Results 51 to 75 of 111
  1. #51
    I'm poplovin' it! TJastal's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Post Count
    7,725
    At what cost? The last thing the spurs need is another guy who's injury prone. Who would the spurs move to pick him up? Is Bogans the Spurs biggest weakness?
    Bonner, Finley, Mason Jr would work. All expiring deals. Much as I hate losing Roger and losing his bench punch, Tayshaun in the starting lineup is a gargantuan improvement over Bogans.

  2. #52
    Truth, justice, and the NBA
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Post Count
    4,752
    Bogans is doing just fine as our starter, Hollinger doesn't watch enough SPurs games.

  3. #53
    I'm poplovin' it! TJastal's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Post Count
    7,725
    Bogans is doing just fine as our starter, Hollinger doesn't watch enough SPurs games.
    Except for the fact that the only teams he can shoot against are the ones sporting losing records. Get past that little detail and yah he's doing great.


  4. #54
    The Great Eight Ocotillo's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Post Count
    4,029
    Is Hollinger in danger of losing his job at ESPN?

    Sounds like he is auditioning for Hoopsworld.

  5. #55
    Out of the shadows lurker23's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Post Count
    2,048
    Bonner, Finley, Mason Jr would work. All expiring deals. Much as I hate losing Roger and losing his bench punch, Tayshaun in the starting lineup is a gargantuan improvement over Bogans.
    I implied the financial issues earlier; now I'll state them explicitly. Here's what the Spurs contract situation looks like next year if you get Prince for expirings:

    Duncan: $18.8 million
    Jefferson: $15.2 million
    Parker: $13.7 million
    Prince: $11.1 million
    McDyess: $4.8 million
    Blair: $918,000
    Hill: $854,389

    That's $65.4 million on 7 guys. The highest the luxury tax threshold is expected to be next season is $65 million. That means unless you sign 5 other players to minimum contracts, you can wave Manu Ginobili goodbye (and even then it might be iffy). Also, hard to imagine being willing to pay even $5 million (much less $7-10 mil) for another wing player when you've got $26+ mil wrapped up in 2 guys.

  6. #56
    俺はまんこが大好きなんだよ baseline bum's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    97,883
    Wait, so the whole rumor is based on someone asking Hollinger in chat whether the Spurs would want him? WTF?

  7. #57
    Believe.
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Post Count
    175
    Prince will be a better "PF" in Pop's small ball lineup.
    Last edited by jhuan16; 01-14-2010 at 08:05 PM.

  8. #58
    I'm poplovin' it! TJastal's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Post Count
    7,725
    I implied the financial issues earlier; now I'll state them explicitly. Here's what the Spurs contract situation looks like next year if you get Prince for expirings:

    Duncan: $18.8 million
    Jefferson: $15.2 million
    Parker: $13.7 million
    Prince: $11.1 million
    McDyess: $4.8 million
    Blair: $918,000
    Hill: $854,389

    That's $65.4 million on 7 guys. The highest the luxury tax threshold is expected to be next season is $65 million. That means unless you sign 5 other players to minimum contracts, you can wave Manu Ginobili goodbye (and even then it might be iffy). Also, hard to imagine being willing to pay even $5 million (much less $7-10 mil) for another wing player when you've got $26+ mil wrapped up in 2 guys.
    Give Manu an less than market value offer and explain why. I know it sounds bad but if he wants to retire a spur I would bet he'd take less $$ for the better chance to win another couple les.

  9. #59
    The Great Unknown yavozerb's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Post Count
    4,176
    Except for the fact that the only teams he can shoot against are the ones sporting losing records. Get past that little detail and yah he's doing great.

    I dont think the spurs got Bogans to be a scorer...The guy only gets a shade over 1mil and is already the best perimeter defensive player on the spurs. I'd say for the $, bogans is a steal..

  10. #60
    I'm poplovin' it! TJastal's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Post Count
    7,725
    I dont think the spurs got Bogans to be a scorer...The guy only gets a shade over 1mil and is already the best perimeter defensive player on the spurs. I'd say for the $, bogans is a steal..
    Yah, but that's why Matt Bonner was put on the bench, because he can't play defense to save his life. Bogans is the opposite, the spurs won't go far in the playoffs if he's putting up 1-7 type nights consistently.

  11. #61
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Post Count
    42,293
    Bogans isn't the answer as a starter IMO, but Prince isn't a guy I'm interested in..

  12. #62
    NostraSpurMus phxspurfan's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Post Count
    14,364
    Wait, so the whole rumor is based on someone asking Hollinger in chat whether the Spurs would want him? WTF?
    I know, right? I feel sorry for those who waste their time and money on ESPN Insider.

  13. #63
    I'm poplovin' it! TJastal's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Post Count
    7,725
    Bogans isn't the answer as a starter IMO, but Prince isn't a guy I'm interested in..
    Why not? He's around 29-30 which is perfect age. He has enough experince to quickly step in and help but not too old and brittle yet (like Jefferson).

    He's extremely versatile and would enable Pop to run many different lineups. He's an athletic and long defender who can impact a game many ways.

  14. #64
    GO TIAGO GO! JustinJDW's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Post Count
    734
    With that contract? I'll pass.

  15. #65
    Alleged Michigander ChumpDumper's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Post Count
    154,432
    Why not? He's around 29-30 which is perfect age. He has enough experince to quickly step in and help but not too old and brittle yet (like Jefferson).
    Might he have just become brittle with this injury?

  16. #66
    Out of the shadows lurker23's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Post Count
    2,048
    Why not? He's around 29-30 which is perfect age. He has enough experince to quickly step in and help but not too old and brittle yet (like Jefferson).

    He's extremely versatile and would enable Pop to run many different lineups. He's an athletic and long defender who can impact a game many ways.
    ?

    Tayshaun Prince: Born February 28, 1980
    Richard Jefferson: Born June 21, 1980

  17. #67
    The Great Unknown yavozerb's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Post Count
    4,176
    Why not? He's around 29-30 which is perfect age. He has enough experince to quickly step in and help but not too old and brittle yet (like Jefferson).

    He's extremely versatile and would enable Pop to run many different lineups. He's an athletic and long defender who can impact a game many ways.
    I guess you skipped every other post ahead yours indicating all of the injury problems he has had and the 20+ mil still owed.

  18. #68
    I'm poplovin' it! TJastal's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Post Count
    7,725
    ?

    Tayshaun Prince: Born February 28, 1980
    Richard Jefferson: Born June 21, 1980
    That was my point, he's like Jefferson in that regard. A great basketball age where maximum NBA experience meets the start of athletic decline.

  19. #69
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Post Count
    8,696
    Could he pass a physical?

  20. #70
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Post Count
    42,293
    Obviously I would like Prince if we knew he was healthy..he's long, a great 1 on 1 defender, and he gives Kobe problems, which would obviously benefit us..but just like most others in this thread have said, he's already broken down and it doesn't look good for the rest of his career..

  21. #71
    Believe.
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Post Count
    12
    gumby is not worth over $10 mil per year. i'll pass

  22. #72
    Out of the shadows lurker23's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Post Count
    2,048
    That was my point, he's like Jefferson in that regard. A great basketball age where maximum NBA experience meets the start of athletic decline.
    Sorry, I misread your intent as "he's not old and brittle (like Jefferson is)."

  23. #73
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Post Count
    8,041
    Prince is not worth 10-11 million.

    I agree with Harlem though, Spurs need to upgrade the 2 spot with a more all around player. Only if we could integrate Bogans and Mason into one player.

  24. #74
    I'm poplovin' it! TJastal's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Post Count
    7,725
    I guess you skipped every other post ahead yours indicating all of the injury problems he has had and the 20+ mil still owed.
    I did qualify my opinion by saying IF he can get get healthy and stay healthy for the two years and play at the level that has made him a star he could help out.

    I did a little research .. found out he had a ruptured disc in his lower back earlier this year.

  25. #75
    Good to Great hsxvvd's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Post Count
    2,427
    I'd take Prince over Jefferson, after what I've seen from Jefferson so far. But if it means not leaving enough $ to resign Manu, then forget it.

    I'm a HUGE Prince fan, playing for a contender again, I think you'd find he would step his game back up. I also think that the current Pistons line-up doesn't really compliment his game.

    If he takes a buyout and signs, it's a no brainer.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •