<Insert Big Trade Proposal Here>

[DPG21920]

You expect the fanbase to be "constant and loyal in their affections" (definition of fickle) when their team is, by some's count, vastly underachieving?

Read the whole post. Yes, I do expect that because the FO tried to win. It does not always happen. What do you want them to do? What else can they do besides what they have done until this point? You expect them to just be able to constantly trade for players that can win them a le every 3 months?

[Chomag]

where are all he homers now that were calling us rearded when we were saying his all season?

[Ice009]

phil jackson for pop

You know those years Phil Jackson has taken off from coaching have helped him re-energize. I really don't think he is much better than Pop. Pop could be burnt out. Pop might just need a break from it all. He doesn't seem like the same Pop aggression wise.

Same with the Bulls and Jordan. I really don't think they win 8 straight if Jordan didn't take a break from basketball.

[DPG21920]

Fickle does not accurately describe our reaction.

It describes it perfectly. All of the F this team and F this player shows that.

[z0sa]

Read the whole post. Yes, I do expect that because the FO tried to win. It does not always happen. What do you want them to do? What else can they do besides what they have done until this point? You expect them to just be able to constantly trade for players that can win them a le every 3 months?

Here's your problem: you act like the Spurs have nothing to do with the Spurs' problems.

[z0sa]

It describes it perfectly. All of the F this team and F this player shows that.

If you want to name names, do it. Don't label a whole fanbase.

[DPG21920]

Point is, it is not right to do what Spurs fans do given the cir stances. The asked the FO to make moves to try and win, and they did that. That should be enough to keep fans from completely ting on them.

Now give them time to rectify the situation.

[badfish22]

I would give you JJ Barea for a plate of enchiladas from a good SA restaurant.

[DPG21920]

Here's your problem: you act like the Spurs have nothing to do with the Spurs' problems.

Where did I say that and what does that have to do with anything? One question: Did the FO make moves where a reasonable person could conclude they were trying to win?

[DPG21920]

If you want to name names, do it. Don't label a whole fanbase.

Don't play semantics. Do I obviously mean every single fan? No, but the majority of people on here are fickle.

[Ice009]

No way cleveland wins it. Lebron doesnt have the will yet (if ever).

God, please dont let shaq get his 5th before Tim. I would rather Kobe get it first

Why would you rather Kobe win it?

[benefactor]

What does that have to do with the fan base being fickle? Nothing is done with 100% certainty. All you can ask for from the team you root for is that they try and win.

They have done that. They made moves that made sense and that they thought could give them the best shot to win. They spent money and put out a team that could compete.

So far it has not worked out, but that does not mean fans should and moan like a bunch of spoiled brats. Sometimes things don't work out, but you take it like a man and move forward. There is nothing wrong with wanting improvements, but there is something wrong with crying like little malcontents and whining over moves that everyone would have made. Especially when those moves were made with the best of intentions.

Fickle fan base.

[Pauleta14]

What does that have to do with the fan base being fickle? Nothing is done with 100% certainty. All you can ask for from the team you root for is that they try and win.

They have done that. They made moves that made sense and that they thought could give them the best shot to win. They spent money and put out a team that could compete.

So far it has not worked out, but that does not mean fans should and moan like a bunch of spoiled brats. Sometimes things don't work out, but you take it like a man and move forward. There is nothing wrong with wanting improvements, but there is something wrong with crying like little malcontents and whining over moves that everyone would have made. Especially when those moves were made with the best of intentions.

Fickle fan base.

This is the first time I realise this is over!
Not only because of tonight game, but there are SO MANY reasons that you have to be blind to think there will some kind a miracle that, not only would make the team plays well (that still could happen), but also give two of our stars a "fresh body" ( sorry, I lack of voccab)!!!

You can't deny that we are going nowhere without a great Tony and a great Manu... both of them are far from being healthy, and I don't see any reasons they would feel better playing more (tough) games through the season...

[jag]

I love the geniuses in here who want to deal parker. The guy puts up 22 pts and 10 dimes in a loss, so what the Spurs really need is a pass-first point guard??

It's not the piss poor interior defense, it's the lack of a pass-first point guard. Now i get it.

[Spursox]

Chris Paul for Tony Parker.....

[z0sa]

Point is, it is not right to do what Spurs fans do given the cir stances. The asked the FO to make moves to try and win, and they did that. That should be enough to keep fans from completely ting on them.

Now give them time to rectify the situation.

I agree that we shouldn't " on them." But I'm honestly not seeing any of our normal (ie 'decent') posters melting down more than usual.

It's not because most are fickle (though spoiled would be slightly more accurate) - It's just discouraging to lose like we are losing.

Giving up double digit leads, not stopping teams we surely can in any kind of consistent manner, and going through confusing scoring droughts despite the most gifted offensive Spurs team ever.

Fickle was the December lameness. Now, we're a few games away from the RRT and a brutal ending stretch of schedule, with no marked and consistent improvement, especially on D, since training camp IMO.

[Ice009]

Where did I say that and what does that have to do with anything? One question: Did the FO make moves where a reasonable person could conclude they were trying to win?

I said trade Jefferson for Jackson two months ago or if not Jefferson trade expirings for Jackson.

How long do the Spurs want before they get it?

[My Fault]

Wow I can't believe how pathetic some Spurs fans can be.... Trade Manu? All of you were ready to blow him after the OKC win and now he needs to go? Yes, the Spurs have problems and are not looking up to championship level but atleast have some sense in the ideas thrown out there. Parker needs to be sat until he is healthy no doubt about that. Mason while brings a scoring punch at times needs to be packaged in a trade with Ian. Bowen is old and would not help in any way and people need to let go. The problem is in the paint and the Spurs need a big to help in that area.

[jag]

Chris Paul for Tony Parker.....

I wish i could slap you.

[DPG21920]

I agree that it is incredibly disheartening, but if you keep things in perspective, no matter how bad the outcome, I applaud what the Spurs did. Am I happy it is not working out? Absolutely not. But I understood that it was a possibility and even though I am surprised at how bad it is right now, I still think the Spurs took the right steps.

I will question things, but I won't be a spoiled fan that whines to the point where it is embarrassing.

[Pauleta14]

I love the geniuses in here who want to deal parker. The guy puts up 22 pts and 10 dimes in a loss, so what the Spurs really need is a pass-first point guard??

It's not the piss poor interior defense, it's the lack of a pass-first point guard. Now i get it.

Thank you!

[Marcus Bryant]

Yeah, I'm real "fickle.". I've been with this team since '75 you little . When you were cheering for the Lakers, Celtics, Bulls, and Rockets I was with this team that was always going to relocate. you you ing poser. Don't tell me I'm not a real fan. You don't know what it's like to me the fan of a team that doesn't have a legit le shot. I do.

Now bring me some coffee.

[TD 21]

It describes it perfectly. All of the F this team and F this player shows that.

Fickle isn't the word for it, another F word is...(no, not that F-word, get your mind out of the gutter), I'm talking about frustration. Frustration because Spurs fans have been treated to and spoiled to an unparalleled run of consistency and success in the Duncan era and because of the fact that it looked like, on paper, this team had more talent than any other Spurs team in said era. So when people see them looking like arguably the worst team of the era, they (rightfully so) become frustrated. The truth is most fans (not all) are inherently fickle. And when I say "most fans", I mean across sports.

[DPG21920]

Yeah, I'm real "fickle.". I've been with this team since '75 you little . When you were cheering for the Lakers, Celtics, Bulls, and Rockets I was with this team that was always going to relocate. you you ing poser. Don't tell me I'm not a real fan. You don't know what it's like to me the fan of a team that doesn't have a legit le shot. I do.

Now bring me some coffee.

Only someone self conscious would think I was referring to them when I was not. Just so happens I posted it in this thread because some of the other posts.

LOL at defending your fandom while putting in random throw away lines like "when you were cheering for the Lakers....".

[DPG21920]

Oh yeah, get your own ing coffee girl.