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    if that trade did happen and big z got bought out why would the cavs need soo many bigs lol

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    Hickson's ceiling is higher IMO. Blair, and this is just my opinion, is a role player who is only useful on a team trying to contend. I couldn't see any use for him on a team that's rebuilding. If SA is willing to involve George Hill then they probably can offer something better, but the vibes sources are giving off is that Phoenix wants more.
    Blair, Hill, Mahinmi, Splitter a combo of any of those is a lot better than JJ Hickson IMO.

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    Blair, Hill, Mahinmi, Splitter a combo of any of those is a lot better than JJ Hickson IMO.

    Not really since Mahinmi is a D-leaguer and Splitter is never going to come to the NBA. As much as Spurfan talks about Mahinmi and Splitter they sure seem to involve them in trade ideas a lot.

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    hickson has alot of upside but would starting in phoenix help him break out?!?!

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    Not really since Mahinmi is a D-leaguer and Splitter is never going to come to the NBA. As much as Spurfan talks about Mahinmi and Splitter they sure seem to involve them in trade ideas a lot.
    What does Hickson have besides a great jumping ability and a lot of energy?

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    Not really since Mahinmi is a D-leaguer and Splitter is never going to come to the NBA. As much as Spurfan talks about Mahinmi and Splitter they sure seem to involve them in trade ideas a lot.
    You know this to be true? Spurs seem very confident that he will join them next year and there was very logical reasons why it has not happened sooner.

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    You know this to be true? Spurs seem very confident that he will join them next year and there was very logical reasons why it has not happened sooner.

    He must be really good seeing that you guys involve him in so many trade ideas

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    What does Hickson have besides a great jumping ability and a lot of energy?

    ACL's

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    He must be really good seeing that you guys involve him in so many trade ideas
    'Cause we are thinking about the present not the future.

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    'Cause we are thinking about the present not the future.

    The way you guys talk about Splitter I figured he was the present and the future.

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    The way you guys talk about Splitter I figured he was the present and the future.
    Meh, I don't think a whole lot about Splitter, however how can he be the present if he isn't even in the squad?

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    Meh, I don't think a whole lot about Splitter, however how can he be the present if he isn't even in the squad?

    I'm not saying you in particular, just saying some of the threads I've seen on this site about him make it out to be that he'll be an instant all star once he hits the NBA.

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    He must be really good seeing that you guys involve him in so many trade ideas
    What does that have to do with the fact you said something you know nothing about? You said Splitter is never coming over. What does the fact Spurs fans include him in fictional trades have to do with you being wrong?

    I guess Amare must be really good seeing that you guys involve him in so many trade ideas

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    This deal makes no sense for the Suns. They can do better than Hickson.

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    I just don't see why the Cavs would even think of making any trades. Is not like Shaq/Amare worked well the 1st time.

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    Since they would buy Z out, they'd be giving up Amare for Hickson? And not even any picks thrown in? Amare is way overrated, but that's giving him away for like 30 cents on the dollar. They can do better than that. He's 27 years old. They're better off keeping him, letting him opt-in for the final year of his contract, then dealing him next year.

    Then again, this is Kerr and penny-pinching Sarver for talking about here, so who knows...

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    What does that have to do with the fact you said something you know nothing about? You said Splitter is never coming over. What does the fact Spurs fans include him in fictional trades have to do with you being wrong?

    I guess Amare must be really good seeing that you guys involve him in so many trade ideas

    Well see if he actually does come over. And I'm not including Amare in any trades, I'd rather keep him. You guys seem to offer the package of Tiago "mini Duncan" Splitter and Ian "mini D-Rob" Mahinmi around a lot for players who are so good

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    I just don't see why the Cavs would even think of making any trades. Is not like Shaq/Amare worked well the 1st time.
    Because they could use a #2 guy and the team they currently have is built for this year only. They stand pat, it could them over in the long run. They won't have any expiring deals anytime soon and Shaq/Z/Parker aren't getting any younger.

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    Spurs seem very confident that he will join them next year

    yeah, and they felt confident a year ago and the year before that.

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    Cavs only major concern left is a #2 guy. Getting Amare not only gets them that, but a sidekick for Lebron for the long haul. Shaq is gone after this year most likely.

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    Cavs only major concern left is a #2 guy. Getting Amare not only gets them that, but a sidekick for Lebron for the long haul. Shaq is gone after this year most likely.


    You are assuming that Amare sticks around in Cleveland. For that matter LeBron.

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    I think the assumption is that Amare doesn't opt-out with James, and that Amare's acquisition provides a talent foundation to rival any other team in hopes of re-signing James.

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    Well see if he actually does come over. And I'm not including Amare in any trades, I'd rather keep him. You guys seem to offer the package of Tiago "mini Duncan" Splitter and Ian "mini D-Rob" Mahinmi around a lot for players who are so good
    Who is "you guys"? Plenty of Suns fans seem to want Amare gone. Not to mention your actual front office shops him around for real . I don't get your point, except that you can't admit you are wrong.

    You fail to see why guys like Ian and Tiago are useful as trade chips because you lack basic understanding of how the real basketball world works. People take flyers on guys all the time and they make small trades to obtain draft picks and use guys like Ian to make salaries match in bigger trades.

    yeah, and they felt confident a year ago and the year before that.

    This just shows your ignorance. There are very practical reasons why he did not come. It was not a great surprise. Disappointing, sure.
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    Who is "you guys"? Plenty of Suns fans seem to want Amare gone. Not to mention your actual front office shops him around for real . I don't get your point, except that you can't admit you are wrong.

    You fail to see why guys like Ian and Tiago are useful as trade chips because you lack basic understanding of how the real basketball world works. People take flyers on guys all the time and they make small trades to obtain draft picks and use guys like Ian to make salaries match in bigger trades.




    This just shows your ignorance. There are very practical reasons why he did not come. It was not a great surprise. Disappointing, sure.

    All this talk about how I'm ignorant and wrong yet you don't give any reason why. If there are practical reasons he hasn't come over yet, there sure as are practical reasons why he won't be coming over next year. My only point was that it's funny Spurfan constantly talks about how good Mahinmi and Splitter are, yet never hesitates to involve them as filler in trades. The next David Robinson normally wouldn't be involved in a trade as filler.

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    Oh you guys bumped this thread.

    I thought the Cavs actually pulled off the trade for a second. Scared me.

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