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interesting.. well i hope they T-Mac gets traded ASAP. My fantasy team is bleeding now that CP3 is out.
Rockets brass holding late night meeting. Very confident. Didn't reveal much, but exec said all deals on table targeting "future assets" 7 minutes ago from web
http://twitter.com/Clutchfans
interesting.. well i hope they T-Mac gets traded ASAP. My fantasy team is bleeding now that CP3 is out.
Apparently, a while back Houston offered McGrady and Budinger for Iggy and Dalembert, Philly rejected, now they regret rejecting it. So, Morey may be able to get NY picks, and Iggy as well
I wonder if the Knicks are going to buy out T-Mac after the trade.
Naw, those idiots think he still got game
They'll play Mcgrady...absolutely no reason not to. Jazz have their pick.
It's just a 2 month rental, I'm sure they'll be eager to see just how much he's got left. They will own his bird rights, so they should at least explore the possibility of re-signing him if he can still play. Plus they don't own their draft pick this year, so it doesn't make any sense to try and tank.
That's fine. Still doesn't make the trade all that great until those picks turn out to be good though. We'll see what happens.
What I'm saying is Jeffries isn't that great. Knicks now have a shot at TWO MAX players. All in for them. The trade was a no brainer for New York. The Knicks really had no reason to keep Hill as he sucks pretty bad.
Even if Lebron doesn't pan out, they could still land Johnson and Amare or something and they're still better off if they didn't make the trade.
Even if the Knicks win the Finals the next two years, I don't think we really 'lose'. All we are doing is getting rid of McGrady. He's not part of our rotation, so we're playing with house money. Anything we get for him is a bonus. I'd much rather get a top 5-10 prospect from this last (09) draft , plus the option to trade picks next year (10) and a first rounder the next year (11) than to just let McGrady expire.
The Rockets might not even keep these picks, they are ultimately just assets that can be used by trading as well. Anything we aquire in this trade is a plus to us.
Also, we're aware that Jeffries sucks, but he's the reason the Knicks are willing to give us 2 picks, so he's okay in my book.
I don't think the Rockets can lose it either. Only negative is Hill/Jeffries means 2010 action is out of the question for the Rockets. That's fine though..you guys have some nice pieces already.
If we were to keep McGrady we would have only had around 7 mil to spend anyways. we never had any sort of 2010 plan.
The cap is shrinking by a considerable chunk, and we still need to re-sign Lowry and Scola to bigger deals. if you don't renounce your bird rights to players, they count on your salary cap as 200% of their salary the previous year until you re-sign them. So McGrady's 23 mil off the books would be negated by Scola, Lowry and the shrinking cap. If we don't deal T-Mac now, we wouldn't have gotten anything out of it.
Not really, if anything we are bigger players now. We now have even more assets to use in any sign and trade.
Hill and Jeffries aren't much of an 'asset' for 2010.
7 mil + battier or Ariza could have landed a decent player. Now the Rockets don't have a chance to do anything unless they want to trade Yao.
NP NP, we haven't made the trade yet
We will have a ton of assets this offseason, 3 of which come from this trade:
Brooks (3 million)
Lowry (~5 million)
Battier (7 million)
Ariza (6 million)
Scola (~5 million)
Landry (3 million)
Hayes (2 million)
Budinger (1 million)
Hill (2 million)
2010 Lottery pick (~15th)
2011 first round pick from NY (could be anywhere)
2012 first round pick from NY (could be anywhere)
Again, HILL and JEFFRIES aren't valuable assets.
Those first round picks are yet to be determined depending on what you do with him. To think Mcgrady was a top flight NBA player only a few years ago the trade wasn't all that. But enjoy those late first rounders.
IF Houston re-signs Scola he's going to get more than 5 million. Houston probably isn't trading Brooks or Landry.
So unless the Rockets draft a superstar they aren't really going anywhere with the pieces they have currently.
Jeffries isnt on that list, despite being an expiring contract, so I am not sure why you keep bringing him up. Hill is an asset, not sure why you think Hill has no value....
The picks are late first rounders at WORST, more likely they are mid first rounders, maybe lottery picks, depending on how lucky NY is. If say Bosh or Wade get fed up with thier home teams and want a move in the offseason, they become very valuable in any SNT because Toronto/Miami know that NY wont end up with "thier" guy.
Even if NY signs two max free agents, they will have 5 players on the roster, with zero picks. They would have too fill out thier roster with 7+ minimum salary guys LOL.
Scola likely signs an offer sheet for the MLE, which we can afford to match. No way he is offered more than that with so many other free agents out there. There just isnt enough money to go around.
Brooks or Landry would be the centerpiece in any SNT. Houston has made it known they would push for Bosh HARD, likely dangling Landry as bait. Does a Bynum + filler trump what we can offer? I doubt it.
We never wanted to draft a superstar, it was all about getting the assets for a trade. Morey has set himself up perfectly for the new CBA.
Yes but we wouldn't have received a MLE if we were that much under the cap. now we can re-sign Scola Lowry & have the MLE (~5.5M) to spend. there's about a 1M difference. We didn't really miss out on anything.
rockets fans are idiots if they like this trade... taking on a crappy contract + risk the chance of getting ty picks b/c knicks will sign a big free agent this summer.
let tmac expire, collect insurance on him, dont resign lowry/scola, and sign a player to 13mil (or a little higher and trade for expirings next deadline)
The Reward outweighs the risk for the Rockets. It is riskier for the Knicks to assume that those guys won't stay witht their teams. And you're an idiot if you think an impact player will sign for 13 mill.
So? The Lakers won 3 championships with two max players and a bunch of min salary guys. Lebron + Bosh + Lee + scrubs in NY would still be a better team than the Houston Rockets.
You are ing dreaming if you think Scola signs the MLE. Plenty of teams with cap space that will lose out this summer. Scola will at the very least get Lamar Odom money.
Bynum + filler trumps any Houston offer not including Yao yes. The Lakers don't even want Bosh though.
Bosh seems like a pipe dream. And the contracts it would take to get him would make Houston pretty mediocre.
Until Houston trades Yao for a real superstar piece Houston will remain a fringe playoff team not really going anywhere.
Again Scola isnt' re-signing for the MLE. Not only is Scola worth more than the MLE, so is his market value.
Unless you guys are claiming Scola will turn down more money to play in Houston for the MLE, which seems like pure fantasy.
When did I ever say anything about Scola signing for the MLE? I said we could re-sign him for whatever it takes because we have his bird rights, plus we would have the MLE in addition to spend. that wouldn't happen if we were to let McGrady expire
haha i guess bro. guess youre happy with being a team full of role players and never going anywhere. i'd rather gamble than sit through another ty mediocre season. im tired of this BS from the rockets
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