You idiots can't read.
I am not surprised.
I'm glad they got minutes, idiot. I think it has been a long time coming.
Nah, it's been quite decent without him, idiot.
Thanks for thinking about me, idiots, but my thoughts on Pop this season are a matter of record. You idiots didn't read it then, so you probably won't read it now.
Unfortunately that isn't going to happen. Ian and Malik wont get the minutes neccessary to develop and TP's health along with the lack of chemistry has made this the most inconsistent Spurs team I've seen during the Duncan era and then some. So frustrating to watch and at this moment I really don't see them turning it around. There still remains that possibilty but I would think it more a miracle than a possible reality. I'm dreaming but I would give this team about another 10 games and if they hold the same PO position as they do now then I'd scrap the season and give Malik and the younger guys more PT, since I don't see this team making a deep run in the POs the way they are playing now. Probably wouidn't give Ian much since he is gone this summer unless he takes a low offer from the Spurs. AS exstatic stated earlier - why develop him so another team snatches him? At this point let him sit and ask him to attend training camp if he is available.
I don't see how Ian would want to still be on this team since they have flat out told him he isnt good enough by not picking up his option. If the Spurs really wanted this kid they would have picked that option.
Unless Spurs FO is trying to low-ball him in which he or his agent might pick up on and give the FO the finger.
Teams such as NJ have shown interest in him. I also remember Larry brown speaking highly of him. He is a young athletic 7 footer with some promise, and thats something thats not widely available in the NBA Ian will be on the Bobcats team next season book it! Unless of course he starts getting some consistent minutes and the FO shows how much they want him to stay on this team.
The Spurs might take Ian back at the minimum, but even then they don't care that much. He's just not a priority this summer. Get over the idea of keeping him.
No doubt. When it comes to the Spurs front office, think of what would be most logical. Then expect the front office to do the opposite.
It's actually quite logical to not make Ian a priority this summer. Once his fourth year was not picked up, the Spurs' options with him were significantly reduced.
You mean, the Spurs gave up all of they're options with him. This outcome was the Spurs' choosing. Just like their choosing to stand pat during the trade season rather than making any moves with the numerous expiring contracts at their disposal.
There are maybe two left. Not worth any gnashing of teeth IMO.That was also pretty much preordained if you look at the financial situation. I know it doesn't matter to you, but it matters to them.This outcome was the Spurs' choosing. Just like their choosing to stand pat during the trade season rather than making any moves with the numerous expiring contracts at their disposal.
I agree with chump, i dont see many scenarios where we resign Ian. We declined his option, we dont play him, pop has publically stated that he wont get an opportunity. I dont see how he can warmly agree to come back at a reduced price because hes gonna get offered a 3 milllion per year contract by some team that is willing to gamble.
I'm a big Ian fan because I've always been impressed with his athleticism in Pre-season games and some of the Toros games, so I don't have an agenda against him. That said, I don't think it's an insult to say he's raw because he is - Scola's post moves on him were an example of that. Maybe my definition of raw is different than yours - a player that hasn't refined his game to its potential yet.
Maybe I'm optimistic with Hairston, but I think he has a long way to go on his potential (I'm pleased with his progress so far.) I also think both players would help the Spurs right now with more playing time - much more than they could ever hurt the team.
Makes playing him more make even more sense - don't worry about his value and try to use him to help the team this season and get something back for the investment in him.
If the current roster was effective or at least showed potential for playoff success, playing Ian would be moot.
I would like to know when the Spurs have won a playoff series as underdogs or when injury or some other cir stance happened that the Spurs were able to go further in the playoffs than expected. I have seen this happen with Phil when kobe and I think odem were down 1 year.
@ chumpdumper being butthurt
If Channing Frye's market value was 1.9 million last year with a higher cap ( next year the cap is expected to be reduced, therefore players market value will go down), what makes you think Mahinmi's market value will be 3 million?
I have a feeling Spurs will be able to resign Mahinmi for cheaper than the 1.75 million he was projected to make if Spurs picked up his option next year.
Spurs brass might have known the future economic climate and were possibly aware that they could possibly save an extra million dollars by declining his option at 1.75 ( which would count 3.5 million against the luxury tax) and signing him to 1.25 mil over 2 or 3 years with a players option. ( That would count 2.5 million against the cap opposed to 3.5 million.)
Who are you?
I understand where you're coming from, but raw is what Ian was 3 years ago. He's pretty clearly developed into an NBA player. He's not just a big guy who can run fast.
Scola's post moves against him could indicate a problem with his defense, or could simply be an example of why Scola's a pretty decent post player as Ian's not the only guy who's bitten on a fake.
Ian would be far better served in those situations to develop a habit of just making the shooter work for his shot while keeping in control. Perhaps this is something that's a long-standing problem for him, but could just as easily be attributed to excitement for finally getting minutes for the first time in a month (or more?). I'd love to find out for sure which is the case, but that's going to require he continue to play. There is every indication at this point that he's the best option the team has at that position.
The only real prayer the Spurs have of retaining him is if they suddenly turn it around, make a dent and can get Mahinmi and Manu energized enough in the potential of the team not to leave.
We lost by the half bigtime, when they came in it actually got close! I mean if we played them all game do we lose? Maybe but we are not down 18 at the half with them in there the whole time IMO.
WTF you want them to bring us from 21 down or so which it was at the time to win it? MY GOD!
Chicago without MJ nearly beat the Knicks and had a great record! Do you remember that year? Pippen was damn near MVP that year! They had a good run that year. Pop without TD? PURE ! Then again we have no Pippen out there so all is well.
My off-season prediction for Ian
Splitter will hem and haw all summer long about playing in the nba and Ian will get tired of waiting for the spurs and sign a 2-year, 4m type deal somewhere to a team in need of some size and athleticism.
Few weeks later, Splitter will finally make up his mind and announce his intention to stay in the Euroleague with Tau Ceramica for the remainder of his contract.
Pop will immediately speed dial Larry Brown and inquire as to the services of Tyrus Thomas, and Brown will say sorry Pop we're just in the process of inking his QO and I like this kid too much to let him go, are you interested in Tyson? You guys need a big, and he's available right now, you wanna do a S&T for Manu?
They will stay behind Poop no matter what happens to the team...
So, you want to bench Tim and Manu then, and play the kids? That's what brought them back most of the way, right? MY GOD!
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