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    🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 ElNono's Avatar
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    This is a little more sinister than the msm is left leaning TBH.
    The backstory is... but the completely unsubstantiated finger pointing is exactly the same thing...

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    Bring them home? Really?


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    The rumors of unconventional arms in Iraq go back a few years.

    White phosphorus was another rumor in connection with Fallujah (I think).

    The US military has officially denied using unconventional arms of any type in Iraq (pretty sure).

    It'd be odd for them JMO to break the purity of their scientific ignorance, whether they are covering up or in fact innocent of the allegations.

    I love how using chemical weapons and biological weapons isn't allowed, but Willy Pete is. I never quite got that, from a logical standpoint.

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    This really screams for 'need actual research'...
    This is really no different than other conspiracy theories like 'Obama must be hiding something from his past' and it's all a MSM coverup... If that's disgusting, this should be no different.
    I agree. However, it seems everyone is happy with the propaganda that it is the USA's fault. Being su ious as I am, I must conclude that the media doesn't want to unveil the truth. That they fear the truth will vindicate president Bush.

    Where are real investigative reporters when you need one?

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    "the msm is left leaning"

    That's stink tank/Movement Conservative bull , a total myth. "left wing" rags like NYT and WP are heavily in the neo-c*nt camp.

    Meanwhile the right wing has spent something like $30B over the last 30 years constructing their bull , myth-making, disinformation echo chamber, including the right-wing stink tanks cranking out totally biased crap and outright lies.

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    "That they fear the truth will vindicate president Bush. "

    dubya and his gang are blantantly, unquestionably guility.

    Corporate media only wants to report bad news when its advertisers aren't involved, or the bad news is from overseas (and not caused by US military or corporate imperialism).

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    I love how using chemical weapons and biological weapons isn't allowed, but Willy Pete is. I never quite got that, from a logical standpoint.
    It is very effective for the purposes it's used for. Incendiaries, tracers, smoke screens, etc. It is not toxic in the doses received by these methods. It takes direct contact with a concentrated form, or long term exposure to the gas it produces. It is pretty irritating in the burnt gaseous form however.

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    It is very effective for the purposes it's used for. Incendiaries, tracers, smoke screens, etc. It is not toxic in the doses received by these methods. It takes direct contact with a concentrated form, or long term exposure to the gas it produces. It is pretty irritating in the burnt gaseous form however.
    They do have willy pete grenades though... I've seen them in action, when I was trying out for EOD. (Burned through an engine block.) Not sure of the ROE on using those.

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    They do have willy pete grenades though... I've seen them in action, when I was trying out for EOD. (Burned through an engine block.) Not sure of the ROE on using those.
    We had incendiaries at some communications sites I worked at in the military as well. Their purpose was to put on the crypto safe to destroy everything in case we were being overrun.

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    We had incendiaries at some communications sites I worked at in the military as well. Their purpose was to put on the crypto safe to destroy everything in case we were being overrun.
    Hm.. interesting. I tell you one thing, anyone pulling those pins better be a fast runner...

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