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Just to remind everyone, the Cardinals lost Karlos Dansby and Antrel Rolle, not Ray Lewis and Ed Reed.
Thats some bad luck losing those kinda players but, thats what happens when you reach the Super Bowl.... everyone wants to get paid!!
Just to remind everyone, the Cardinals lost Karlos Dansby and Antrel Rolle, not Ray Lewis and Ed Reed.
Lost 'em for nothing and can't do much of anything with the CAP savings...
Karlos will be a big loss, who does ARZ have that can replace him??? Dude is one of the best cover LBs in the league
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Dansby had a down year and was still their second best all-around impact defensive player. He's a great player, but not what he got great. Still, he'll be missed and is not easily replaced... I don't think they have any on-team options. Probably draft.
This is a great deal for us if he can stay on the field. It took us damn year out entire Ravens history, but we finally have a clicking offense in Baltimore. Watch out Beefanus! Lol
Thats a very racist statement even from you Steven. I am ashamed.
Cardinals trade a 4th and 7th rounder for Kerry Rhodes, someone who imo is an upgrade over Rolle and is cheaper.
Is Rhodes from the Jets?
Yeah. He was a pro bowler when they had a 3-4 D and struggled in Rex Ryan's O, hopefully he plays like he did with Mangini as coach.
I like what the cardinals have done, they let 2 guys go who are now the highest paid at their positions, overpaying for players doesn't get you to the SB. Cards got the best years out of them at reasonable prices and will now get some good comp picks from them. the Rhodes trade was a steal too IMO. Boldin probably should have gotten them a 2nd, especially if a guy like Cro can bring back a 3rd or 2nd...
But all in all, good moves for the cards, they lose Warner and will probably struggle next year anyways as it's Leinart's first, so no need to overspend, just get some draft picks and reload for 2011/12, Cards have been drafting pretty well in recent years too.
The Cardinals, as far as I know, did not tender Dansby. He walks, no comp. As for Rolle, they waived him, so, as far as I know, no comp.
The Rhodes trade seems pretty shrewd. It could work out great, it could not work out at all. Either way, they replaced the hole with a less-contracted, equal upside type player... perhaps less of an athlete, but more of a safety?
I'm upset about Dansby... tender him for a 2nd-rounder to get something for him, or re-sign him, but don't just let him walk.
I'm not as upset about Boldin, though had they relented last draft, they could have had a 2nd/3rd for him straight up. They waited, he slipped, his stock plummets. Sucks, but at least they got a few picks for him, one of which acquired Rhodes (or at least gave an extra fourth to have the ability to acquire Rhodes.
If they get a comp pick or two for Dansby, then it takes the sting off a bit, but, and I'm pretty certain, they won't be.
Rolle was waived? whoa that makes much less sense, I thought he was a FA.
Dansby should bring a 3rd round comp pick, he got the big contract, if he plays well and Arizona doesn't sign a FA to a big deal, Ari should get a third for that.
Not sure there's a difference, but they released him/waived him... whatever...
Not sure how this compensatory pick stuff works. Do they not get this possible pick until next draft, not this draft? Seems they should work out a compensatory system similar to MLB where FA's are ranked based upon a two or three-year basis, then ranked where an A-level restricted FA beings in a compensatory pick after the 1st round, and an A-level unrestricted has the acquiring team giving up their 1st (if had) or a combination of picks based upon some subjective determination...
yeah It'll be a 2011 draft pick, I'm no expert on it either, but it's mostly dependent on the contract they got, and there is also playing time and production factored in. also, first they try to cancel out incoming and outgoing FA signings. so if Arizona signs a big free agent, he'll most likely cancel out Dansby. and I think it's all relative too, they give out a certain number of 3rd rounders, 4th rounders etc. and if some other teams lost even more than you, you could be bumped down to a 4th rounder.
but yeah, it has to be a FA, Arizona should have shopped Rolle rather than release him, could have gotten a 4th easy, probably better
Rolle was owed over 12 million in this final year of his contract, especially since they got a better safety for cheaper. Dansby is a separate issue, but the way they've addressed the Rolle/Rhodes thing was perfect.
Umm, I dont know?
Considering that Rolle missed 12 games, their stats are almost the same, with Antrel having more TDs & 3 less INTs!
Rhodes is better. Congrats on the Giants paying Rolle desperation money so he's paid like he's Ed in Reed.
Rolle is a fantastic athlete with solid cover skills and better than solid safety skills, but is basically a great athlete/good player.
I didn't realize Rolle was owed 12 million this year. Now his release makes plenty of sense. That's a ton of money for a good, but not great player. Rhodes easily makes up for that.
I heard on the radio that the Cardinals could be one of a handful of teams that are using this UNCAPPED season to clear their rosters of bad contracts, building their talent-base through the draft, and saving their CAP space for the CAPPED season that is likely to follow. It was going to be a transition year anyways with Leinart, so it makes sense if they are doing that. They could have a substantial amount of money to spend in 2011 and have a very good to great young foundation to build around.
The only thing I'm pissed about is them wasting a year to realize Leinart always will suck when they could be using this year to develop a QB who could actually have a future.
I'm not convinced they don't draft a a QB like Lefevour in the 2nd round. They could use a high upside QB and if Leinart ends up sucking after six games, throwing Lefevour out there to get his feet wet.
They need to use their 1st on a pass-rushing OLB/hybrid DE, but after that, QB in the 2nd, a CB and DT with their 3rds and a OL in the 4th. With their 6th and 7th I figure two more lineman, either DT or OL.
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If they got Lefevour I'd be thrilled. He's the guy I like after Clausen and Bradford this year.
Me too... I would mind them trading up to net him earlier in the 2nd if they have to. Most mocks have him in the 3rd, but there's always a premium on QB's, so I expect 2nd round. Hopefully he's there for the taking with their late 2nd.
Same hype was thrown on the Broncos dbs year before last. Blew an 8-5 three game lead to the Chargers, including the season ender where PRivers roasted them.
As Gordon Mul roll pointed out, Cromarte should be ripe for the picking.
Cromarte may up his cocaine dozage and actually play with an ounce of effort, but he looks done.
Revis is good, but Rivers threw a perfect pass to Vincent Puss Out Jackson in the playoffs for a would-be good gain and 1st and 10 at the Jets 20 with huge momentum. Jackson not only butterfingered the pass but let it bounce off his vagina for a very greasy INT for Revis. Revis is hardly unbeatable.
Man, he struggled so bad last year, under Ryan's 3-4 D, that he lost his startin job!
Didn't Ryan play a 3-4 D & doesnt Arizona play the same D?
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