Spurs FO--Give Ginobili an extension now or he is gone!

[phxspurfan]

Manu has already shown his distrust in the Spurs FO with many public comments this season. He is very valuable to this team but with the way our 4th Banana has performed, we don't really have a shot at winning a ring in the next 2 years, even if the Big 3 are healthy.

Option 1. Sell High
The best case as I see it is to sign and trade him for a few young prospects and move on. We know, after his big heat performances of late, some team will want him, even at 33 with (at max) 3 years left of good basketball. In return for those 3 good years we can probably get a package like 2 young wings and a pick or two. I'd say that's good enough of a sendoff and not disrespectful at all, if we just let him know in advance that the signing is to increase his trade value (by signing him for something not 15m/season).

Option 2. Sign and not trade
Of course the FO could just grovel on their hands and knees and ask for his forgiveness and willingness to take less than the market will offer him. But you know his agent is whispering in his other ear all his other options so this has, at best, a 50-60% shot at retaining him (at reasonable salary levels, aka not 15m/season).

Option 3. Let him walk
Who cares right? No one else on the Spurs this season care, including the players and their coach. That much has been proven. So let him walk and save Holt some of the money that he spent this season in vain. I kinda feel sorry for the owner, as we had the setup and Pop screwed it up -- along with injuries.

[jb4g]

Regardless of his contract status I dont see Manu playing for his NT anyways. He understands the toll on his body playing all summer, and with a family on the way I think he will realize he has to protect his body to earn that check. With TP out Manu will have heavy minutes for the rest of the year, if he gets through that healthy and playing the way he is....Spurs will simply have no choice but to try and resign him. The other problem is some team with money to burn is going to get left out of the Bron/Bosh/Wade sweepstakes, and may make a crazy offer to Manu. It may not be the dollars per year, but the length. I dont see our FO wanting to go more than 2 maybe 3 years, what if someone else offers him 4......going to be very tough for him to turn that down knowing its his last contract.

[urunobili]

Disagreed, the Spurs have a lot more chances of beating the Lakers or Cavs than Argentina has of beating team US.

CROFL US won't take Kobe and probably Wade and Lebron neither... I would say ARG has a VERY strong chance to make it to the Finals... especially if Gasol is not playing for Spain either

[DAF86]

CROFL US won't take Kobe and probably Wade and Lebron neither... I would say ARG has a VERY strong chance to make it to the Finals... especially if Gasol is not playing for Spain either

I didn't know that. If that's the case then yes, our chances improve dramatically.

[spurs10]

To anyone saying we should get rid of Manu, for any reason, I say this...watch the &%*&game!

[diego]

I didn't know that. If that's the case then yes, our chances improve dramatically.

regardless of who plays, its easier to pull an upset in single elimination than in a 7 game series.

as for the teams, the arg NT has lost depth, but scola and delfino have improved since 04.

meanwhile, the spurs have lost depth, and on top of that duncan and manu have declined since 07.

the US is still not a cohesive team. in that sense, they are still beatable. the problem is that argentina isnt as good as they used to be collectively, minimizing that advantage we had over them. if its just talent, athleticism, and skill, the US always has and will be better than us.

its not a good chance to win the WC, but unless the spurs make moves (or the youngsters signifcantly improve), its better odds than the spurs' championship odds.

[OldSilentHill]

The truth is that is Manu´s call.

If he wants to play for the NT but still wants to get well paid under NBA standard, he can do it. If Spurs doesn´t want to resing him if he plays for NT, another team will do it.

They can have an agreement: for example FO offers 24 millions / 3 years for not playing the NT and Manu answers "give me 18 mil / 3 years and I´ll play for my NT to win the only important award left I really care, the WC". If Spurs says no, probably Manu signs with another team.

He is having twins, I now, but its only 2 weeks. But the twins...mmm, thinking clearly, the desicion is on HIS WIFE !!

I mean, really, have you ever tought about it? She is carring the twins, she decides if she wants to move or not from San Antonio (she probably has a lot of friends).

In the end, we realize we never had the power

[DesignatedT]

manu isnt going anywhere. give up this foolishness

[raspsa]

Manu is the chillies/ es in the Spurs recipe.. without him they're flat and tasteless.

[barbacoataco]

Manu is the chillies/ es in the Spurs recipe.. without him they're flat and tasteless.

Yeah, without Ginobili the Spurs would be very average.

[MannyIsGod]

The days of Argentine Gold Medals in basketball are over with or without Manu.

[all_heart]

So a few good games against some of the weaker teams in the league(yes Cleve was missing their top players) and you want to rush and sign him to the extension? The spurs should wait until near (another month) the end of the season, see how he looks then, then open up talks.

Manu will not be playing at this top form that we have seen the last few games for the next 2 or even 3 years which he will want, count on it.

You sign players for what they will give back in the future not what they have done in the past.

A verbal agreement between Manu and the Spurs needs to be considered regarding his future international play. If he decides to play the spurs need to take that into account in what they will offer him- which should be less than if he forgoes playing in the international tournamnets. The spurs need to make an incentive for manu to skip international play.

The spurs need a plan to shore up the frontline with some talent and without it even signing back Manu will make no difference.

gotta agree 100%. It's too early to resign him, let's see how April goes. I don't think he'll play this summer, he's having a family, and he'll lower his value big time if he gets hurt again. You hit the nail on the head with shoring up the front line, Timmy needs help if not a quality big man he can hand over the reigns to. Trading TP this summer may be the only way to do it. In the process if they can get a traditional PG to run the offense it may be better for RJ and the others who need to be spoon fed their offense. Don't get me wrong, I like TP, but he's the only player the Spurs can trade for and get something of value back in return.. although he's damaged goods right now.

[kuato]

The days of Argentine Gold Medals in basketball are over with or without Manu.

Cool ! i will put your phrase in my famous phrases folder, next to the phrase "Nobody can beat U.S.A. basketball team".

[Cherry]

[ElNono]

Update on this... according to Manu there has been conversations between the Spurs and his agent, but nothing concrete yet. He's thinks it's unlikely anything will be offered before season's end.

[sammy]

Manu is the energy player on the team! He makes everyone better with all of the intangibles steals, blocks, assists and shooting! He deserves to retire as a Spur! He is one of the key reasons of winning our championships and we owe him that he should retire as a Spur! I know it's a business as some will say, but come on there are some players that should be honored, Timmy, Manu and TP! He is keeping this team winning and plays with such intensity, compe iveness and the determination to win is why he should be resigned with an extension! Watching him against Cleveland and his refusal to lose even though others didn't show up on that game and too get so close shows how important he is to this team! I don't understand why the Spurs are waiting! He is the reason I go to the games and watch and if he's gone, I am done! Been a fan since Ice, but I forgave them when they let Iceman go and took me years before I came back, but I won't forgive again!

[AFBlue]

Update on this... according to Manu there has been conversations between the Spurs and his agent, but nothing concrete yet. He's thinks it's unlikely anything will be offered before season's end.

Source?

Not that I doubt this is true. It makes little sense for the Spurs to work out a deal when Manu is virtually at the highest point of value in years. They'll see how the rest of the season and post-season shakes out before entering into serious negotiations.

IIRC they've got until 1 July to work out an extension, which gives them a half a month at least (17 June is Game 7 of NBA Finals if necessary)...likely more.

[ElNono]

Source?

Not that I doubt this is true. It makes little sense for the Spurs to work out a deal when Manu is virtually at the highest point of value in years. They'll see how the rest of the season and post-season shakes out before entering into serious negotiations.

IIRC they've got until 1 July to work out an extension, which gives them a half a month at least (17 June is Game 7 of NBA Finals if necessary)...likely more.

It will be on the english section of his site hopefully soon. Considering how delicate is the whole contractual situation, I told the webmaster to please have Manu review the translation before posting it on the site. Last I want is some kind of misunderstanding. But it should be there shortly.

[ElNono]

Not that I doubt this is true. It makes little sense for the Spurs to work out a deal when Manu is virtually at the highest point of value in years. They'll see how the rest of the season and post-season shakes out before entering into serious negotiations.

Plus there's always the possibility of an injury... hope not, and knock on wood, and all that. But the Spurs really are in no hurry.

[Mel_13]

Herb Rudoy, Manu Ginobili's agent, said that he and the Spurs are "definitely talking," though the conversations are "informal". about 7 hours ago via web

http://twitter.com/alvaronbamartin

[Muser]

Good to hear they are talking, Manu has proved he can still play at a high level. Extend him for 2/3 years.

[Johnny RIngo]

Herb Rudoy, Manu Ginobili's agent, said that he and the Spurs are "definitely talking," though the conversations are "informal". about 7 hours ago via web

http://twitter.com/alvaronbamartin

Informal? So they've only talked over the phone then. Spurs FO is probably going to wait till season's end to evaluate where to go with this team.

[santymrc]

Lack of respect from Spurs FO. Manu has the ball in his hands now, and nobody knows what's going to do next. Deja - Vu hum?

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Cool ! i will put your phrase in my famous phrases folder, next to the phrase "Nobody can beat U.S.A. basketball team".

well, I don't know about it being over, but we're certainly not winning this summer. With or without Manu.

[santymrc]

well, I don't know about it being over, but we're certainly not winning this summer. With or without Manu.

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