UFC Live: Vera vs. Jones March 21, On Versus

[dbreiden83080]

do you guys think Jones is better for LHW or MW he has done really well at 205 but he looks like he could easily make 185 as well

He's 6'4 so i say LHW. As he gets older 185 would be rough for him. And why drop when you are dessimating foes in the heavier, better weight class?? 205 is the most stacked class in MMA and he has what it takes to rule it for years..

[TheTruth]

Man, what was with all the fouling last night? Still a pretty good night of fights.

Bones Jones is the real deal. Fouled two times, and he still dominates what I still think is an elite talent in Vera. Philippines! :-(

Dos Santos looked GOOOOOOD. Only one real take down, and he stuffed it pretty well. Him and Velasquez needs to happen very very soon. Maybe put it on the same card as the Brock vs Mir/Carwin fight. Winner gets a le shot.

Man Kongo looks good against average opponents. Too bad he looks so bad against elite ones.

Tough way for the Irvin/Saka fight to end. Was starting to get exciting.

[Bullet Tooth Tony]

Dos Santos vs Carwin after Mir wins next weekend!

Dont forget about Cain

[djohn14]

Jones Vs. Machida -- make it happen.

Id love to see it, but you cant give Jones a le shot after beating Brandon Vera.

[djohn14]

Dont forget about Cain

I think Cain would beat Dos Santos and Carwin

[djohn14]

Des went 5-0 on this card and a lot of us went 4-1 with our picks

Hey now!!! I went 5-0 too!

[dbreiden83080]

I think Cain would beat Dos Santos and Carwin

2 great fights there, Dos-Santos has maybe the best striking in the division..

[Stringer_Bell]

Dont forget about Cain

I already assumed Cain would fight Brock before the heavyweight belts are united. I think that'd be the fairest thing to do, since Cain let his ego go and took whatever fight they gave him after the Carwin/Cain match fell through. This way, if Cain AND Carwin won belts, then we'd get to see that match and everyone would be happy.

Likewise, Randy MUST fight Jones at this point. Randy is to Jones what Big Nog was to Cain...the matchmakers better be all over it because if Randy gets the Machida/Shogun winner I feel it's not as exciting as a Jones/Randy fight. Make matches for the people, if Randy is meant to win the LHW le he will at somepoint need to fight Jones - so let's do it now!

[desflood]

Des went 5-0 on this card and a lot of us went 4-1 with our picks

Oh , really? That's awesome. I haven't seen it yet.

[desflood]

Lots of fallout from last night:

UFC on Versus Injuries: Brandon Vera suffered three broken facial bones from the elbow he took, and Duane Ludwig suffered a 'severe' break to his ankle which will likely require surgery.

Dana White has also stated that James Irvin will not be allowed to fight at 185 in the UFC again, as the large weight cut is obviously a danger to him.

[Bullet Tooth Tony]

I already assumed Cain would fight Brock before the heavyweight belts are united. I think that'd be the fairest thing to do, since Cain let his ego go and took whatever fight they gave him after the Carwin/Cain match fell through. This way, if Cain AND Carwin won belts, then we'd get to see that match and everyone would be happy.

Likewise, Randy MUST fight Jones at this point. Randy is to Jones what Big Nog was to Cain...the matchmakers better be all over it because if Randy gets the Machida/Shogun winner I feel it's not as exciting as a Jones/Randy fight. Make matches for the people, if Randy is meant to win the LHW le he will at somepoint need to fight Jones - so let's do it now!

So you saying Brock at 100% would lose to Cain or is that wishfull thinking? I still dont think anyone can out muscle Brock if he gets them on the ground. The UFC HW div is pretty stacked right now and that unusual looking back only a few years at it. I do agree that Cain vs brock would be the right thing to do for a fight considering Dos Santos, Mir, and Carwin would have all just fought.

[djohn14]

Lots of fallout from last night:

UFC on Versus Injuries: Brandon Vera suffered three broken facial bones from the elbow he took, and Duane Ludwig suffered a 'severe' break to his ankle which will likely require surgery.

Dana White has also stated that James Irvin will not be allowed to fight at 185 in the UFC again, as the large weight cut is obviously a danger to him.

DAMN!!!!!!!!! That one elbow broke 3 bones!!! Sucks for Vera, and thats terrible about what happened to Ludwig. Thats good on Danas part for not allowing that severe weight cut again.

[dbreiden83080]

3 broken bones, does Jones have like a steal rod in there or something??

Irvin didn't to me look like he wanted to fight last night..

[TheTruth]

Watching it in slow mo was scary. That elbow had nothing in its way from face bones.

[tlongII]

That elbow to Vera's face was brutal. You could tell the face bones were getting wrecked.

[djohn14]

Maybe Im wrong, but Ive never seen a fight where someone gets crushed in the face and the dude screams and holds his face. That was amazing.

[Stringer_Bell]

So you saying Brock at 100% would lose to Cain or is that wishfull thinking? I still dont think anyone can out muscle Brock if he gets them on the ground. The UFC HW div is pretty stacked right now and that unusual looking back only a few years at it. I do agree that Cain vs brock would be the right thing to do for a fight considering Dos Santos, Mir, and Carwin would have all just fought.

Nope, but if Cain did win and Carwin did win, we'd get to see that fight we missed out on. I love Cain, but hope Brock wins because I want their to be a dude that no one can touch that's a total ass kicking bully in the ring.

Maybe they should change Jon "Bones" Jones to Jon "Elbows" Jones?
DID VERA NOT SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN JONES THROWS BOWS FROM THE TOP!?!?! Hope he recovers well.

[djohn14]

I want Cain to win...but I dont see Brock ever losing unless there is someone that can catch him in a submission ala Frank Mir.

[tlongII]

I just wish Fedor would step up and fight in UFC. Chicken Russian!

[djohn14]

If anybody gets a pic of Veras face I would appreciate that

[dallaskd]

James Irvin is still a ing pussy..

[The TroutBum]

James Irvin is still a ing pussy..

Co-Signed.

Man, I'm so bummed about Vera, he is one of my favorites. Anyone know what his status is as far as contract goes? After he lost, I said to my buddies, "He's done in the UFC." -- I actually have no idea, but isn't that 3 losses in a row? I see Strikeforce in his future.

[Stringer_Bell]

Man, I'm so bummed about Vera, he is one of my favorites. Anyone know what his status is as far as contract goes? After he lost, I said to my buddies, "He's done in the UFC." -- I actually have no idea, but isn't that 3 losses in a row? I see Strikeforce in his future.

I think Vera works hard, but he isn't going anywhere in the UFC right now. I can't help but feel his frame and look at LHW is sickly, and he can't contend with Randy/Jones/Shogun/Lyoto/Rampage/Evans. He can't compete at HW either. Middleweight is OUT OF THE QUESTION.

He may be off to Strikeforce, but he's a hard worker that just hasn't "taken the next step" so to speak

[dbreiden83080]

I just wish Fedor would step up and fight in UFC!

Agreed...

[desflood]

but he's a hard worker that just hasn't "taken the next step" so to speak

Too bad. Lots of potential there.