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  1. #51
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    no killer instinct whatsoever. the mavs get a lead and then sit on their ass until the other team cuts it too close for comfort. rinse, repeat.

    until the Mavs grow a set of balls and develop a desire to mother their opponent, they're nothing better than 2nd round fodder for the Nuggets.
    agreed. what mavs are capable of is spanking some weaker teams and all. Whenever their opponents are tough ones or have turned tough after getting spanked in the 1st or 2nd quarter, Mavs have no idea how to evade being inundated, and ultimately have to take the results of a lost game which often includes tons of lambasts from you whining fans.

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    adolis is altuve’s father monosylab1k's Avatar
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    ^sup Rogue

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    no killer instinct whatsoever. the mavs get a lead and then sit on their ass until the other team cuts it too close for comfort. rinse, repeat.

    until the Mavs grow a set of balls and develop a desire to mother their opponent, they're nothing better than 2nd round fodder for the Nuggets.
    sup Hollinger

  4. #54
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    It really irks me how RC always gives Barea so much pt when Bobo is playing waaay better than him in less minutes. Oh well, hopefully we kick some Celtic ass on Saturday.

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    no killer instinct whatsoever. the mavs get a lead and then sit on their ass until the other team cuts it too close for comfort. rinse, repeat.

    until the Mavs grow a set of balls and develop a desire to mother their opponent, they're nothing better than 2nd round fodder for the Nuggets.
    Carlisle just chose to rest his first team regulars when he knew the game was well under control, does it mean his team lacks a set of balls or whatsoever? Genuinely I don't think it's bad strategy to make some provident reservations on the 36-year-old Jason Kidd.

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    Whatever, Barea played the entire 4th Quarter while Kidd sat. It's not surprising they cut an 18 pt lead down to 7. I'd rather Kidd get the rest than stay out there to maintain a 20-pt lead.

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    Whatever, Barea played the entire 4th Quarter while Kidd sat. It's not surprising they cut an 18 pt lead down to 7. I'd rather Kidd get the rest than stay out there to maintain a 20-pt lead.


    20-pt also turns one win counted in season standing and even if you lost it you wouldn't see any visible elevation/relegation of rank in the western conference standing.

  8. #58
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    No need to style-point, just get the Ws.

  9. #59
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    sup sycophant. I don't see any mono's writing that resembles Hollinger's so I'm only assuming that's an act of flattering him, which seems pretty weird though considering what a worthless dull wanker mono is.

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    Whatever, Barea played the entire 4th Quarter while Kidd sat. It's not surprising they cut an 18 pt lead down to 7. I'd rather Kidd get the rest than stay out there to maintain a 20-pt lead.
    So everyone is going with the "Kidd was being rested" excuse?

    You're telling me if Chicago cut that lead to 2 or 3 pts that Kidd still would have sat? If that's the case, I got news for you - Kidd is hurt, not being "rested".

    and tbh I don't give a about that. This was a Bulls team without Rose, Deng, or Noah playing on the 2nd night of a back to back. And they didn't make their push in "garbage time" as you'd like to assert. They made their push in the late 3rd/early 4th quarter. They got back in the game before garbage time ever happened. With Dirk/Caron/etc out there on the court. It happened because the team got lazy and started playing ty defense. That's absolutely inexcusable.

    What happens if they go up big on Denver in Game 1? Suddenly a magic switch is going to be turned on and they're going to learn to snuff out the opponent? Highly doubtful.

  11. #61
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    krofl at the explosion of chode over a superior team playing down to compe ion. yeah, its irritating, but most elite teams tend to do that, including the Lakers. there are plenty of Laker fans that will admit they play down to compe ion badly. about the only teams that dont, are elite offensive teams like the Nuggets and Suns (and both teams wont win because they cant defend, and the nuggets have zero BBIQ), and the Spurs for some odd reason. thats pretty much how it always has been, and always will be. all I care about is how the Mavs play against other elite opponents, and all year, they have proven to be up to the task, even before the trade happened.

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    So everyone is going with the "Kidd was being rested" excuse?
    If Carlisle had a boner to keep the lead at 20-25 points, he would've put Kidd back in.


    You're telling me if Chicago cut that lead to 2 or 3 pts that Kidd still would have sat? If that's the case, I got news for you - Kidd is hurt, not being "rested".
    I'm saying Kidd would've only re-entered the game if the outcome was in doubt - which it never was.

    and tbh I don't give a about that. This was a Bulls team without Rose, Deng, or Noah playing on the 2nd night of a back to back. And they didn't make their push in "garbage time" as you'd like to assert. They made their push in the late 3rd/early 4th quarter. They got back in the game before garbage time ever happened. With Dirk/Caron/etc out there on the court. It happened because the team got lazy and started playing ty defense. That's absolutely inexcusable.
    I don't care. A team is not going to play with urgency and energy for 82 games/48 minutes.

  13. #63
    you are a faggot Phillip's Avatar
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    If Carlisle had a boner to keep the lead at 20-25 points, he would've put Kidd back in.




    I'm saying Kidd would've only re-entered the game if the outcome was in doubt - which it never was.



    I don't care. A team is not going to play with urgency and energy for 82 games/48 minutes.


    It really doesnt matter how they play against garbage teams. Just against the good teams. I just want them to rack up wins and get that 2nd seed. Then the playoffs are a whole new story.

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    It really doesnt matter how they play against garbage teams. Just against the good teams. I just want them to rack up wins and get that 2nd seed. Then the playoffs are a whole new story.
    The last time the Mavs treated every game with Game 7 urgency was 2007, and they flamed out in the first round after peaking in March.

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    So let me get this straight - you guys are saying that in Game 1 of the second round (assuming the Mavs get there).....start of the 4th quarter Dallas has a 20 point lead on the Nuggets....you guys are telling me that after AN ENTIRE SEASON of treating 20 point leads as an indicator to pull out the beach chairs and sip on pina colada's until their opponent cuts it to 5....that magically in the playoffs a switch will flip and they'll decide instead of crush their opponent?

    First off, I don't believe the Mavericks have that switch to turn on and off. Second, they haven't earned the right to switch it on and off. They've proven jack thus far.

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    So let me get this straight - you guys are saying that in Game 1 of the second round (assuming the Mavs get there).....start of the 4th quarter Dallas has a 20 point lead on the Nuggets....you guys are telling me that after AN ENTIRE SEASON of treating 20 point leads as an indicator to pull out the beach chairs and sip on pina colada's until their opponent cuts it to 5....that magically in the playoffs a switch will flip and they'll decide instead of crush their opponent?
    I'm saying if that happens, Kidd will play the lion's share of minutes at the 1 instead of Barea playing the entire 4th Quarter. Carlisle was trying to get the W without treating it like a Game 7.

    First off, I don't believe the Mavericks have that switch to turn on and off. Second, they haven't earned the right to switch it on and off. They've proven jack thus far.
    What have the Nuggets proved? That they can lose to the Lakers in the Conference Finals?

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    First off, it's a league of runs... a 20ish point lead dwindling to 7 isn't THAT "inexcusable"... happens to a lot of teams. Mavs just missed a few free throws and had a few in and outs.

    Second off, Mavs were up by 15 with 3:35 left.

    Third off! the time at which the Mavs have been blowing leads is typically during late 3rd/early 4th... this also to me correlates with when barea play. Barea has the worst +/- stats on the team.

    Barea's role will be drastically reduced if not entirely gone come playoff time.

  18. #68
    you are a faggot Phillip's Avatar
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    So let me get this straight - you guys are saying that in Game 1 of the second round (assuming the Mavs get there).....start of the 4th quarter Dallas has a 20 point lead on the Nuggets....you guys are telling me that after AN ENTIRE SEASON of treating 20 point leads as an indicator to pull out the beach chairs and sip on pina colada's until their opponent cuts it to 5....that magically in the playoffs a switch will flip and they'll decide instead of crush their opponent?
    As long as they get the win in the end, thats all that matters. Crushing a team is nice, but anyone can get hot and crush someone. Even teams can get hot and crush elite teams, the way New York did to the Mavs the other day. Or the way the Bobcats always pound the Lakers. It happens. What matters more is how they finish their opponents, and every time an opponent has made a late push against the Mavs, the Mavericks always knuckled up and made a bigger push right back to win the game. And you can't say they only have done it against bad teams, because they did it against elite teams as well, including the Lakers, despite being massively shorthanded.

  19. #69
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    What have the Nuggets proved? That they can lose to the Lakers in the Conference Finals?
    and that they can get pounded in the first round a bunch of times prior to that. Nuggs havent proved any more than the Mavs, other than that they have zero BBIQ, and piss poor defense.

  20. #70
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    this is a pointless argument. we already know that mono debates with more emotion in his thoughts than even the worst of spurfans here do. he changes his opinions every other day. one day, the mavs choked. the next, the refs stole it. one day the nuggets are overrated and were an antoine wright foul away from losing to the mavs, the next the mavs are gonne get swept by them. one day the mavs are elite, the next the mavs are gonna get upset in the first round. it never ends. then again, probably about 95% of sports debaters debate heavily off of emotion.

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    this is a pointless argument. we already know that mono debates with more emotion in his thoughts than even the worst of spurfans here do. he changes his opinions every other day. one day, the mavs choked. the next, the refs stole it. one day the nuggets are overrated and were an antoine wright foul away from losing to the mavs, the next the mavs are gonne get swept by them. one day the mavs are elite, the next the mavs are gonna get upset in the first round. it never ends. then again, probably about 95% of sports debaters debate heavily off of emotion.
    I guess that's better than blowing your load over a 7 point win against a Rose-less, Deng-less, and Noah-less Bulls team playing on the 2nd night of a back to back. Those wins are so bad ass and prove that Dallas has what it takes to win a championship.

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    Mavs just missed a few free throws and had a few in and outs.
    die

  23. #73
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    They've blown big leads with Kidd in the game too.
    I'm not happy that they got curbstomped by New York, and I'm not happy that they let the Hornets make a game out of a blowout, but last night's game doesn't concern me in the least...or belong to the list of worries with this team.

    And I never said the Nuggets have proven anything. But I don't see them blowing 20+ point leads on a regular basis either. Anyways, I don't give a crap about what the Nuggets are doing. I'm concerned with what the Mavericks are doing, and honestly I think it's ridiculous to assume that the Mavs will change their entire way of doing things come playoff time, especially when they've given no indication of that thus far.
    It was clear once they got the big lead last night that they took the foot off the pedal and played with much less intensity. The Bulls at one point cut it to 7 but the outcome and game was never much in doubt. I'm pretty much fine with that. There's a difference with easing off the gas pedal against a depleted Chicago team and doing it against LA, Cleveland, Orlando or Denver. If they lose to the Nuggets in the playoffs, it will be because they're not as good as them. I guarantee you they won't play so half-assed like that against an elite team.

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    Nothing says "we're championship material" better than winning by 7 against D-League Talent!


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    I guess that's better than blowing your load over a 7 point win against a Rose-less, Deng-less, and Noah-less Bulls team playing on the 2nd night of a back to back. Those wins are so bad ass and prove that Dallas has what it takes to win a championship.
    except no one blew their load over it. in fact, we werent really happy, but at the same time, we werent going nuts saying they suddenly have no shot at beating the nuggets in the playoffs. a win is a win, and any one of us will take it, and hopefully they turn this into another nice winning streak. thats all.

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