"team will pose a serious threat in the West"
Rockets are keeping Spurs OUT of 9th place, NOT the Spurs keeping themselves in the playoffs.
Spur will finish 8th, drop 2 games in LA, split in SA (I'm being insanely optimistic), and lose in LA. gone fishin, 1-4
i said a lot has to happen/come together; if it does, they'll be threat. you miscontruing what i said (next time trying including the rest of what i say in your reply). i never said it was likely that the stuff that needs to almost magically happen will happen. just saying if it does, we'll be a threat.
it will only get tougher for TD. i don't see things changing. and i never said that defenisvely he was out of his league. in terms of scoring though, he's declined a lot. the Spurs used to get 30 15 3 blk consistentyl from him in games against the best comp. he's clearly no longer that player. the probelm is RJ and McDyess (McDyess esp of late) can't make amends for that. with RJ i personally think it's more a matter of Pop that is the problem with him. RJ doesn't get enough plays called for him, nor the right ones. while McDyess is just sucking and not developing ian.
Love this stuff.It was great watching Tim produce 20 and 10 night after night while it lasted. Those days are gone and we just have to accept it.
If he gets 20 and 10 the rest of the way and into the playoffs then I'll happily eat my words.
It was great to see him take it right at Gasol and punish him today.
ah so now its the rest of the way
Pathetic.
Read my original post. Yes the thread le is melodramatic, but I just said that he can't do it NIGHT AFTER NIGHT anymore. If he does from here on in, then yeah, I'll eat my crow and you can fire away.ah so now its the rest of the way
Pathetic.
Btw Dice is absolutely NO help to Tim in the paint defensively. It's pathetic.
shut the up!! you want to see a done horse??!?!?!?! look at bostons garnett now thats done!!!!! timmy has been playing of the glass banking shots and laying it up with finess during seasons and playoffs, even finals he carried himself the same, if anyone is going to last the longest its timmy!!! he plays with his cerebelum not the muscles that betray people hence garnett he relied on his natural athleticism !! every year and now hes done!! yes timmy has declined but you know what hes healthier this year than last year when he was younger and you knw what?? hes putting up better numbers you know why??? because he stayed healthy dropped weight and yes his scoring and rebounding are going to drop but he has never needed to dunk over people to win games he has always known how to put the ball in the hole w/the least amount of expended energy THE Least!!! so i say hes got threee more years!!YES 3
you know what timmy will do more of when his body gets older practice his bank shots and perimeter shooting!!! that wont fail you, yes you still need lift but like i said he wasnt playing garnett ball he was playing timmy ball and will last suprisingly long mark my words
Actually I believe Tim Duncan Will Play Great From Here on out. I think He was conserving himself for the playoff Run. Plus In the Playoffs, You never play On Back to backs, you Almost always Get A day In between Games.
Oh And dice Is Playing Alot Better now, He Is not Dominating, But if ya ask me I think He is playing better Then Kurt Thomas Was At This time last year.
I just Hope Mr Hill Gets Healthy Quick, I think He is Huge to Our success In A Playoff run.
What a typical on ST. You probably still think Jefferson is completely worthless too.
I think he has been more of a 5 since '07. After Drob retired in '03 he stated playing more at the 5 but was still a 4. When Rasho and Nazr left after '06 then he has played much more at the 5 since the Spurs never were able to get a 5 in the mold of Rasho or Nazr. All 5s since haven't been able to play the 5 the way Pop wants them to and the way the D is designed to work. The 5s coming in '07 and beyond just don't seem to have the neccessary skills to do that.
No, he hasn't logged more minutes at C.
1997-2003 D-Rob was our C
2003-2006 Rasho Nesterovic
Both these guys logged many more minutes at C than Duncan ever did. It wasn't until that 06-07 when Pop plugged in Oberto that Duncan really became more of a "floater."
Because of that, his minutes these last four years can't be characterized by time spent exclusively at one position or the other. Sometimes he plays the high post, sometimes he plays the low post. And he'll switch between offense and defense, and as assignments change.
But to counter your argument, Duncan's played significantly more minutes at the PF position than at C.
Tim isn't young anymore. But, in my opinion anyway, I don't think he is struggling because his shooting touch/post game have just disappeared.
I've said for several seasons that the biggest thing dragging Tim's game down is all the damned contact off the ball. Everyone figured out that they couldn't defend him in the low post, so they started wrestling, shoving, and grabbing to "deny him the ball". Since his knees really started getting bad (last season) they have focused a lot more of their effort on bulldozing him, to force him to take the ball farther from the basket. And when he passes the ball, they immediately give him a big shove from behind to force him even further out. When was the last time you saw Tim pass and re-post closer to the basket? Nothing is absolute, but it doesn't happen often.
I ed about the officiating for several seasons, because I thought they let things get to the point of being ridiculous some nights. Not a conspiracy, but the general position of the league for the amount of contact they decided to tolerate off the ball. I don't think it's good for the game to allow 3-4x the amount of contact on one portion of the floor. But Tim's knees have become as much of a limiting factor as anything else. When you have to back up to someone and push, it's basically the same thing as doing a leg press. And Tim's knees just aren't up to doing that many leg presses per night, in between running up and down the floor.
Forcing him to take the ball farther from the basket is a big deal. It gives the help defenders more time to reach him when he does take it to the rack. (Which makes it less necessary to bring the hard double team, which means other players aren't as wide open as they used to be.) It changes the spacing on the floor, and the angles on his passes. (I think it's one of the big reasons teams have become more successful jumping our passing lanes and getting steals.) And when he does take the jumper off the glass, it is (on average, at least) a longer jumper than it used to be. Shooting percentage drops, the further a player is from the basket - unless you happen to be Bruce Bowen. But shooting from further out also reduces the likelihood of Tim getting his own rebound and a put-back.
The fact that he has lost lift is part of it. It's easier to guard a big if you don't have to worry about trying to meet him above the rim. And it's pretty obvious that a flat-footed shot is easier to block. But I still say that the biggest problem Tim has is that his knees don't let him handle the physical play off the ball as well anymore. It's not the battle in the low post, it's the battle to get to the low post.
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