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Unless blacks in great numbers and mormons from Utah have a ginormous problem with getting high, it'll probably pass.
dang that would be sick if we get legal weed!!!!!!!!! i'll be like this everyday
Unless blacks in great numbers and mormons from Utah have a ginormous problem with getting high, it'll probably pass.
I just find it funny that the mind altering and death daily death causing alcohol, which is processed and produced, has no problem being legal but a natural plant that doesn't alter the mind nearly as bad or cause anywhere near the same about of deaths is so condemned that you can get major prison time for procession.
Gotta love the hypocrisy of this country/world.
This coming from someone who's never smoked weed in their life and never drank alcohol but has been witness to both their effects on people's lives and bottom line, weed >>> alcohol.
Why is it a bad assumption? The next conservative to do it would be the first.
Um, ok? Then await the repeal of the national law. I'm sure the conservatives will repeal that right? LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL. They're too busy legislating morality, I forgot.
Because the most pro-active stance on the legalization of marijuana by any major candidate(including Obama) is held by a Republican....Gary Johnson.
Edit: Yeah there's Nader but he's not ever going to be President so it doesn't do anyone any good.
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It might as well be held by Barney the Purple dinosaur because the next Republican candidate that gets elected president won't be an actual conservative when it comes to the war on drugs.
Obama says stupid when it comes to marijuana and there is no denying that his public stance on the issue is pure pandering but his actions are an entirely different ballgame as has been pointed out in this thread.
The GOP isn't flexible at all on morality issues. We've seen it with Gambling laws, Sexual Education, and Drug laws time and time again.
I am not really sure what do with that statement...a true conservative would be in favor of legalizing marijuana as it has been for most of the history and pre-history of this country.
He appears to be catering to corporations more than championing the common man to me.Obama says stupid when it comes to marijuana and there is no denying that his public stance on the issue is pure pandering but his actions are an entirely different ballgame as has been pointed out in this thread.
That was the impression I got when he signed that digital piracy act, which is even more unjust than the drug war IMHO. And this heath care act didn't exactly leave the pharmaceutifcal companies hating him.
Things change over time...for instance Nixon was the original affirmative action President...and now Republicans are racists.The GOP isn't flexible at all on morality issues. We've seen it with Gambling laws, Sexual Education, and Drug laws time and time again.
Sure, overtime anything is possible. 2012 isn't over time. Thats what my comment was about and you're the one that said I was making a bad assumption. I think not.
"Nixon was the original affirmative action President"
Nixon initiated the Southern Strategy of Repug racism, of going after southern white Democrats who were pissed off about the all the human and civil rights the uppity blacks were getting.
I don't think so unless Romney wins. He's the only one I think will reverse what Obama did. And I am taking Palin into account as well(based on comments she made about meth amphetamine being the drug she would go after).
Huckabee doesn't care and all the other Republicans like Rand Paul and Gary Johnson are pro-active on either states rights to legislate or outright legalization of it.
Meanwhile...if Joe Biden were to wind up President, I would expect him to reverse Obama's policy.
Keep in mind, the Clinton admin took California to court when they legalized it.
And Arnie is another more or less pro mj Rebublican.
I see more Republicans with a pro MJ stance than I do Democrats, and it's odd because it's not really mirroring the bases.
The folks who already smoke will still continue smoking weeds despite whether the bill gets passed. It's just because it's illegal that weed dealing is quite a profitable business and attracts many black hands of bandits. To restrict any excessive expansion of weed, the government has way more means to choose than banning it briskly. Government has the power to maintain the high prices of marijuana by levying on such business as marijuana selling, and I'm sure folks would like to choose to buy marijuana from the legal streams rather than from gangstas.
Well they can take your property for posessing it...that is bull and that is a#1 number one reason it should be decriminalized.
It's also the a#1 reason that any President, or candidate, who admits to having smoked marijuana, who still has his peronal propetery, yet is not in favor of decriminalization...is a ing hypocrite.
This means Bill Clinton.
This means GW Bush.
And Barrack Obama.
And Clinton coming out in favor of decriminalization at the very end of his Presidency, while to his credit now, proves he was just as full of on this as all of them are.
Marijuana arrests are about 50% of all US arrests (forget about the fact that nearly all marijuana arrests are the racist police going after blacks and browns to imprison them in the PIC for simple possession).
The War on Drugs has $Bs to keep the War on Drugs going, to avoid "losing marijuana" as taxpayer-funded job security.
Always follow the money. It's The One True Religion of the USA.
Whatwever boutons...Nixon was the first President to realize affirmative action whether you like it or not. Just because he catered to racists to get votes doesn't mean he didn't do it."Nixon was the original affirmative action President"
You guys need to understsand something about racism...there is no law that says we all have to like each other. And even if there is...you will never realize it without becoming a tyrant yourself.
You are never going to make all white people like all blacks and mexicans.
You are never going to make all black people like mexicans and whites.
You are never going to make all mexicans like whites and blacks.
The best you are going to get is the acknowledgement that we all deserve equal rights and laws that ensure it.
Anything else is bull .
And unfortunately, there will always be people that view things through a racial lens...including people like yourself that immediately think racist when you see a white guy saying he is a Republican.
That is the epitome of racial stereotyping. And those that do it are no better than the racists they claim to despise.
And on this we agree.
Always follow the money. It's The One True Religion of the USA.
But that's actually pretty stupid on our part...we are pretty much the dominant agricultural country on the planet, we could be the world's weed provider and make a ing fortune doing it.
We could make way more money off it than is made in the black market.
"dominant agricultural country on the planet"
The dominant agricultural destroyer/polluter on the planet.
Did you hear Clinton regretting this week his enabling US rice businesses to kill Haitian rice growers, so that Haiti became dependent of US predators? It's the same story in other sectors of the Haitian economy.
And it's the same story in other countries around the world. America's We Feed The Planet bull is A Lie. The real story is that US taxpayers subsidize US agriculture that is then dumped on the planet to undercut the planet's traditional ability to feed itself from local agriculture, to make the planet dependent on US predatory business that destroy local jobs and local economies.
Then throw in the all Monsanto, Dow, Dupont agri-chemicals and proprietary/monopolistic/sterile seeds, and you get a picture of America ing up America soil and water and the planet's soil and water, while undercutting and destroying the self-sufficiency of foreign economies.
Point is even from the capitalistic perspective it makes more sense for it to be legal. Whether you think that is a good thing or not.
even though I don't smoke, I've noticed that after leaving a bar after consuming gallons of booze, dude comes home and beats the out of his wife.
On the other hand, pothead dude is too busy being bleezed to get up to get himself and sandwich.
Weed should be legal. Tax the out of it and BAM, California doesn't have a money problem. I need to run this damn state. Pros ution and weed would be legal.
Vote YES on Proposition P: for Pimpin'
So are we able to make all white people like all white people?
Apparently some white people appear to some to be racist by helping to push a tanning tax which would some would say discriminates against white women.
I would also say there are other factors like paper and tobacco lobbyists that keep pushing hard for marijauna to stay illegal.
Plenty of reasons why mj is wrongly illegal.
Ron Paul introduced a bill to legalize hemp farming, I believe. And yes, the Governator is open to legalization, or at least, isn't against looking at that question.
If you knew one, single thing about the origins of the Southern Strategy, it would be the first."Nixon was the original affirmative action President"
We should make something clear about that statement. Affirmative action was originally about insuring equal opportunity. Quota's were never part of it back then.
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