Fixed.
Unless SpursTalk.com makes money and I'm not aware of it. Otherwise, more posts = more server costs.
If you don't post in a thread that you hate, there is a high likelihood it just sinks to the bottom and than to the next page.
I get he's ball-dominant, but if he's shooting over 50% and that tear drop is falling and his J is on, plus he still looks for his teammates...that makes TP nigh unstoppable. If we get the real Big 3 come playoff time...heads will roll.
Timvp for the amount of headache this website must cause you, you should be getting paid ... at least some advertising revenues or something. I know I wouldn't care one IOTA if a few ads popped up now and then. Can't be any more annoying than Angelbelows' sig.
Doesn't Garza make $$ off of his SR site? You should too.
anyway, that could be the only thing i would agree with rocky... whatever his name is.
you never made anything to stop this bs about tony.
you've got several rules on the FAQ of this forum:
and yet this bs about TP is about 75 % of the forum making it less interesting and valuable IMO.4. Deleting/Locking/Merging - Sometimes threads get deleted if it's blatant trolling. But most of the time a thread gets deleted is when it's repe ious.
5. Being Lame
B. Starting threads about every thought that pops into your head without looking around to find a topic on the same subject. This is usually done by drama queen posters who need some attention.
F. Trashing one Spurs player to prop another. The "Manu vs Tony" threads are the prime example. You don't need to tear down one player to make another look good.
somewhat, it could be OK with you, considering it's a big part of the activity of this forum
Today parker showed us why we need him.He was aggressive, making alot of plays and one thing hill doesnt do that tony does is open up the 3pt.
Pops strategy is obvious, play parker and hill together.this will be the quickest back court in the playoffs and alot of teams will have trouble defending them.we dont need to get rid of either, just keep them both!
go spurs!
oh give me a ing break. I don't like the Tony hate bull either, but what you're calling for is just as much bull or even more. Nobody is curtailing the Manu hate coming from ducks either, though I don't see you ing about that now.
There have always been idiots roaming around this forum, last season the Manu hate was rampant as well. Granted, not as much as this season against Tony but still annoying as .
Two things you can do to fight such stupidity. Either you engage them in their stupidity or you ignore them altogether.
It's ing lame how people apparently can't even discuss whether or not Tony should be in SA's long term plans, here on a *DISCUSSION* board, without Tony's homer fans defending him.
Seriously, if you have a problem with said viewpoint, either argue it with facts or scroll. But dismissing any criticism of TP as either trolling or ignorance gets old, particularly when it comes from posters with a cute little French flag tacked on to their avatar.
That or rookies with <200 posts who think they own the site.
You'll have to excuse me, Hill is back and we're up 30 tonight with him starting. Carry on with the TP circle jerk...
Yeah, how will teams ever deal with a quick backcourt? Not like they won't post the smallish guards up, or take advantage of Pop's propensity to switch the pick and roll to end up with Parker and/or Hill guarding guys like Odom, Gasol, Dirk, etc.
(you know, strategy...)
Aggie,
Spurs long term plan doesn't include Duncan and Manu, but may include Parker.
I see Duncan playing only 2 more seasons, and that's it.
If you trade away Parker, that will mean only GHill, Blair, Mahimi, Jefferson stay.
You've pretty much outed yourself as an irrational Parker hater. "Trade Parker" is one thing. " Parker" is another.
Dude can't win with some of you. I see posters I haven't seen since before 2007 coming out of the woodwork to bash Parker like old times (that means you, IceColdBrewski). Must feel good I guess.
And if you think George Hill is the reason we're up 30 you must have been watching Dancing With the Stars for the last two hours.
He won me over in 2007. He's undone it since with his affinity for French National Team play. The biggest setback to this franchise in the last 3 years (outside of smallball) has been national team summer play. That goes for Manu too.
It's particularly frustrating to me with Parker, as it's clear his French team will never win . For what we're paying him, I want him to focus on the Spurs. Period.
The Hill comment was tongue in cheek, but I'm equally tired of any criticism of Parker on this forum (if you can't admit he deserves some, then you're equally irrational as you accuse me of being) being met with those defending him calling those criticizing him either trolls, ignorant, Church of Manu, etc.
I don't disagree with you there (on Tim). I'm not advocating trading him away for the of it. It'd have to be a for a great piece (like a Bosh, Paul, etc.).
Great theory, if SpursTalk had ads on it. How do you figure we make money off the board because of high traffic without advertisements? We lose money off SpursTalk every single month - it's on two dedicated servers.
Oh and there is definitely a group of absolute Tony haters - it doesn't have anything to do with his play - they even hated him last year when he was incredible. So my suggestion to you guys who are bothered by it is to make a list of the screen names and add them to your ignore list. That's the same thing that I have been saying the last two years about the Manu haters. For some reason there's people who think that they MUST hate the TP to make Manu look better, and others that MUST hate Manu to make TP look better. It's been the same crap for years, "Tony doesn't pass to Manu." "Manu doesn't like TP off the court." blahblahblah Even the players themselves think it's ridiculous.
PLease. In your mind, anyone who has ever criticized Tony is a Tony hater. Your full of it Kori. You lump everyone who is critical of Tony into the same category...is that because you are tired of Tony's critics, or is it because in your eyes Tony is above any criticism whatsoever? I think its the latter.
Besides that, all of your efforts to move threads, close threads, etc have only stirred the water, and driven Parker critics to more criticism. Parker isnt anywhere close to perfect, stop with the attempted coddling.
Parker is awesome for what he is, but one thing he has never been able to do is make those around him better. He is a scorer and an unstoppable one man fast break. So was AI. Colour me unimpressed.
Last season was the pinnacle for Tony fans, and we FLAMED OUT in round one. That speaks volumes.
Now your advocating for a massive division of the posters on this site (which will not happen...only Parker's biggest fans would do what you suggest)...blind Parker haters suck. Blind Parker fans suck just as bad.
I hope Parker retires a Spur, but we need to keep developing talent for the future...when we stopped, we almost bit the dust. PARKER, IN NO WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM, HELPS DEVELOP NEW GUYS. PARKER = LESS TOUCHES FOR THE TEAM.
Win or lose, I want new talent to keep flowing, and guys will continue to find the bus out of town if Pop doesnt get a chance to see them play. If that means Parker cant have his 20+ shots, and that Parker's biggest fans will be disappointed, then I say the future of our franchise is worth it.
cool story bro
You were banned last year under another user name for your blind Parker hate - so yes, you are a hater. You try to control yourself a little more sometimes, but you are what you are.
And no, I don't mind legit criticism of Parker. Keyword is legit. Everyone knows Tony's game has flaws -- just like every other player on the court.
And yes, blind Parker haters and blind Parker lovers are just as annoying. Some of you need to learn how to be SPURS fans.
Tell the whole truth. I asked to be banned because I thought if I couldnt speak my opinion about Parker this board wasnt worth belonging to. I came back because I figured I could enjoy the board in spite of the BS. Which I do.
As far as Im concerned, if you can go back to any post I have ever made, taken in context, and show me as a blatant Parker hater, I will wear that jacket. But you cant. It just so happened that my first thread was critical of Tony's perceived distrust of Mason when he first arrived. Mason was getting his production while Parker was out, and I saw in Mason a second coming of Stephen Jackson. I aimed some pointed comments at Parker, you lumped me in with Parker haters before me, and tried to discredit everything I said.
At that time, claiming Tony as the greatest thing since sliced bread was easy...he was dismantling teams left and right all regular season long. But I knew that no one player who was MJ could do that during the playoffs, and spoke that point. You and Timvp both claimed all year that the only way to win was with Tony having max attempts. Well, looks like you both blew the analysis.
And as far as me being a Parker hater, you blew that too. Prove me wrong I dare you.
Then it is no longer a long term plans. It is just a 2-year plan where thereafter Manu and Tim will probably retire.
Spurs never have a long term plan with any of the Big 3.
LOL, you should be banned just for thinking Mason was the 2nd coming Stephen Jackson. Or maybe you should be a scout for the Clippers.
As a clutch shooter, you weren't complaining when he was laying his balls on kobe's chin were youLOL, you should be banned just for thinking Mason was the 2nd coming Stephen Jackson. Or maybe you should be a scout for the Clippers.
Hey Kori, I wouldn't mind ads if it would help you guys with expenses.. a lot of other posters might share this sentiment.
Not everybody who makes a comment about trading Parker is a hater. I really, really like Tony as a player. And I love the way he has represented the team and the city. He's part of the permanent lore of the team, and I'd love to see him retire here.
But. We can all see that the team isn't the dominant force it was a few years ago, and we have a lot of big salary commitments, and Tim is (as much as it pains me to say it) getting to the late stage of his career. The FO didn't re-sign Manu in order to trade him. Jefferson may talk about opting out, but I don't see him doing it - and I don't see anyone picking it up. So about the only trade piece that could bring a major player is Parker. I think it would be a shame, but the players know it's a business, even if some fans don't.
If Parker were traded, we would lose something at the point. But if the team improved enough elsewhere, it could be just enough to put the team over the hump. And he's the kind of player that the team would work to bring back, like they did with Sean.
I said it in the other thread - I predicted that Anthony Parker would be the best bargain in the last offseason. (He's started 80 games for the Cavs, for about $2.6M.) I think the bargain of this offseason will be Chris Duhon, and I think he'll sign for somewher around $3.5M. With him, Hill, and possibly Temple, we could be pretty good at the 1 and 2 spots. Especially since Manu is one of the better PG's in the league, even though he isn't a PG. If we could pick up a game-changer for Tony's $13.5M, it would have to be worth looking at.
That's not hate. It would have to be a of a good player, but with team revenues down, $13.5M might be enough to get one. I'd hate to see Parker go, but I sure as don't hate him. But for those who say we couldn't win a championship without Tony - remember that Tony wasn't this good in his first several seasons, and we still managed to to pretty damned good while he was still learning.
[Edit] But, yeah, the blind Tony-haters are assholes.
Ban the Tony haters for the playoffs!
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