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    We got zero hometown discount
    He could have gotten more dollars, more years, or both if he went on the market in July.

    Plus the Spurs will probably see a bump in season ticket renewals and purchases with this announcement now rather than in the summer.

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    The fact that the FO is fine with locking in a pretty large amount of money in 2011-12 could mean one of 2 things:
    1. Tim may be willing to renegotiate his contract
    2. George Hill may be the starting PG post 2010-11
    Uh oh, your about to get a diatribe from Kace and ed by Pop.
    actually, that is a good observation. If Hill ends up being 75 % of the player tony is (which he is very far from being right now whatever says the "bbal experts" on this forum), trading TP could make sense.

    for that to happen, tim and manu will have to keep on performing on a high level and TP not to keep on his continuous progression over the years before this injury plagued season. i can't see the spurs tradind tony if he's heading to be by far the best member of the big 3 in 2011-2012

    Still, 35 M for Tim and Manu could hampered the team in the future, as great as it is to see them end their career in SA.

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    TP ain't going nowhere... jeez... kace don't let them get into your head!

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    If he flops he won't have much trade value anyway. I'm not worried about his lack of effort at any rate.
    I'm more talking about his final year than anything else. But I'm an optimist at heart, so I'll focus on the good news.

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    TP ain't going nowhere... jeez... kace don't let them get into your head!
    who knows what will happen in two years ? tim and manu seem locked to end in SA, TP not so sure right now.

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    I'm more talking about his final year than anything else. But I'm an optimist at heart, so I'll focus on the good news.
    Tim. Pop, and Tony could all be gone by 2012-13. The Spurs would have liked to limit the extension to two years, but the ship sailed on that possibility with Manu's performance over the last six weeks.

    They did what they had to do to maximize the team's chances in 2010-11 and, to a lesser degree, in 2011-12. Although the looming lockout in 2011 might mean that most or all of that year's salaries will never be paid.

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    who knows what will happen in two years ? tim and manu seem locked to end in SA, TP not so sure right now.
    It's really hard to know what will happen. Would TP really want to sign a multi-year extension next season knowing that the Spurs will be in rebuild mode one year later? Would the Spurs want to do it?

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    Tim. Pop, and Tony could all be gone by 2012-13. The Spurs would have liked to limit the extension to two years, but the ship sailed on that possibility with Manu's performance over the last six weeks.

    They did what they had to do to maximize the team's chances in 2010-11 and, to a lesser degree, in 2011-12. Although the looming lockout in 2011 might mean that most or all of that year's salaries will never be paid.
    Right, so it may have helped the team to begin the rebuilding project if they had a trade-friendly contract on Manu....not a fully guaranteed $14M with a trade kicker.

    All that said, I completely agree with your assessment of the situation. It would've been nice, but Manu's play dictated the necessity for a third year and the Spurs honestly had no realistic alternative if they wanted to stay compe ive through the Duncan era.

    That's why I'm content with the signing and am happy one of the most entertaining Spurs player I've ever seen will spend his entire NBA career here and retire in silver and black....hopefully with one or two more rings!


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    Nice news!!!!! No more wait!

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    Oden ain't making $39MM over the next 3 years.
    He cost the Blazers more than that. He cost them Durant.

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    I think Manu's new contract definitely means that Parker will be traded, unless we can get someone to take RJ off our hands.

    G. Hill isn't a true point guard, but he and Manu can play that position.

    I'd rather have a PG who can shoot the three and distribute, like a Steve Blake. I know Blake isn't a defensive stopper, but I like what he contributes to an offense.

    So if we could trade Parker for a serviceable 4 or 5 who can block shots, and a backup point who can shoot, I'd be fine with that.

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    Max deal plus a trade kicker? The front office gambled and rolled snake eyes. Looking back on it, gambling was kinda dumb because letting Manu walk was never an option. Even a hurt Manu is better than what you are going to find on the free agent market. They should have locked him up when his value was lower.

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    Max deal plus a trade kicker? The front office gambled and rolled snake eyes. Looking back on it, gambling was kinda dumb because letting Manu walk was never an option. Even a hurt Manu is better than what you are going to find on the free agent market. They should have locked him up when his value was lower.
    Hindsight is always 20/20.

    If they had locked him up for 2yrs/20M earlier in the season and then the ankle gave out, we'd be reading about how stupid the FO was to not wait for proof that he was healthy. Hurt Manu wasn't the only possibility, we could have had broke Manu.

    Also, most of the extra money between 2/20 and 3/39 is in the third year.

    As Bruce used to say, it is what it is. The Spurs got a bargain for several years on Manu's contract, now they'll probably overpay him for his final years.

    I'm just happy we'll get to see him finish his career in silver and black.


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    As much as some fans have ragged over Peter Holt's management of the Spurs over the years, I think we should all appreciate what he's done this year and for future years in taking a financial hit on the luxury tax in uncertain financial times.

    Here's to you, Mr. all-time Spurs spending for championships owner.

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    Good news that the re-signing is official. Spurs had no other choice than that and letting Manu go would have been a disaster.

    Spurs have invested a lot of money in Manu. I hope he will be able to play three more years. Spending $14.1M for a 35 years old Manu is a big gamble. I still have some doubts the third year is fully guaranteed.

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    A few million too much for manu, even if he's my favorite player, but like i've said before, i'd rather overspend then lose him, he's too important to this team.

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    As much as some fans have ragged over Peter Holt's management of the Spurs over the years, I think we should all appreciate what he's done this year and for future years in taking a financial hit on the luxury tax in uncertain financial times.

    Here's to you, Mr. all-time Spurs spending for championships owner.
    Imagine if he started to open up that wallet after '03

    It's tear-inducing each time I think about the possibilities...

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    he played for very little Money in 2003 and played low key on his 05 contract too.... i think the overpay is also compensation on what he gave up before as he has always produced over his paycheck value... therefore... after the contract ends and you put in perspective all the money he got for what he gave it'll be a fair deal.. no more no less...

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