As I showed above, we clearly fulfilled our burden of proof in that case. Clearly the verdict on who is the winner of that series is not going to be overturned. But we can at least feel safe in our beef with that series.
I am asking Spurs fans to produce evidence that Dirk's calls were not legit. As I said, even Mason's and Bonner's calls were 100% by the book. Their defense is a foul in the NBA. If you have a problem with that, you have a problem with the rulebook, not with Dirk.
Son, I have only one problem with your argument. The Spews sent Damp to the line 12 times on purpose. Start the debate at 22-14 not 34-14.
That's because they want to look like the classy fans that don't make excuses about losing, I don't have a problem with that in fact I applaud them but a lot of those guys (those that now say that the refs were OK) were ing in the game blog and in another threads about the officiating.
Now, having fans accepting that your team got the better end of the calls is a lot harder to find and IMO speaks volumes about the officiating on this game.
And no, I don't want to prove my point, I know what I saw.
I think Dirk's longevity at least puts him above, and the fact that he doesn't seem like he's slowing down. However, I am willing to wait 4-5 years before having this debate. Deal?
Did you watch the game? hack a damp produced only 6 FT attemptemps.
Dirk is 6 inches taller than Barkley, yet has never once in his career even averaged 10+ rebounds per game. Barkley had a career average of nearly 12 a game. Not to mention the fact that Barkley was a much more accurate shooter ... are people SERIOUSLY trying to compare these two? lol
It was the game thread, the place where people are the least classy. And there were no Mavs fans around to be class with, they banned them. I was just looking at the comments.
And when you say you don't want to prove your point, alright, I am happy you are at peace with that but don't come here defending that point when you are not willing to stick with it.
well there goes your credibility!
He also had better handles and defense and made teammates better.
Barkely
FG: .541%
PPG: 22.1
TRB: 11.7
AST: 4.0
STL: 1.5
BLK: 0.8
Dirk
FG: .473% (LOL)
PPG: 22.9
TRB: 8.5
AST: 2.7
STL: 0.9
BLK: 0.9
I don't feel like downloading the game and I don't know how to make videos.
He has admitted on TNT countless times that he didn't care about defense, and that he was a poor defender who could have been much better if actually tried.
And great job comparing the handles of a 6'4 dude to a 7 footer. How about finding me some 7 footer with Dirk's handles and mobility?
son the stats don't lie. sure Dirk can shoot the 3 ball, but Barkley was a much more accurate shooter ....
career FG%
Barkley: .541%
Dirk: .473%
Than have the decency to wait until someone does, if they do so.
Yes, Barkley's awsomness with dunks clearly means he's a better shooter than Dirk nailing 3 pointers. Clearly! At least go find TS%, and we can have a more rounded debate, but when you say shooter, at least give me 5ft of distance from the basket. It's hardly a SHOT closer to that.
see my sig for just one example of how Dirt gets paraded to the line for ticky-tak phantom 'foul's every time a spurs player gets within 2 feet of him.
and heres a stat for you, in game 3 in dallas of our series in 2006, the Mavs shot more freethrows than any team in any playoff game in the modern era, more than the heat shot in any game in the finals that year, tim duncan was fouled out of the game when Dirt stepped on his foot, in games 3-4 Dirt made only 5 FG's a game but ended both games with almost 30 points, and the Mavs squeaked out both games by a combined total of 6 points.
THAT is an undeniable travesty, spurs fans will never forget that because we had to sit and watch as D-Whistle was being bailed out and paraded to the line every single possession, robbing us of a repeat le due to bull .
Barkley was a much more accurate shooter. Dirk relies on jacking up as many shots as possible and hoping they fall in. He has no post game at all. If his shots aren't falling, his ONLY hope of scoring is the refs helping him out and putting him at the line for free points.
He's still better than Dirk at it.
I don't know why I have to do that, we're comparing Dirk and Barkley here, Charles has more rebounds even though he's smaller. Why can't Dirk have better handles even though he's taller. Dirk has better handles than Mason and Mason is 6'4''/ 6'5''.And great job comparing the handles of a 6'4 dude to a 7 footer. How about finding me some 7 footer with Dirk's handles and mobility?
And to answer your question: I don't know if definitely better but arguably for sure: Garnett, Duncan, Gasol.
still waiting for your answer to my question
In terms of handles, I would even argue that he's better than Duncan.
And if you would've read my argument, I am clearly referring to Game 1 of 2010. I saw no undeserved calls there, and that's what I am waiting for proof on.
I admit that the call on Timmy in game 3 was undeserved. Ok! I admit it! Then have the decency to also admit that Timmy was getting every call left and right in game 7 as well, even more so than he had gotten all series long. Also, have the decency to admit that when you are defending Dirk with Manu and Bowen, a 7 footer with 6'6 players you are likely to get a lot of fouls called on you. Case in point, your video. You can't determine whether Manu touches him or not with that quality, but if that's your only defense against Dirk (slapping his hand or elbow when he rises up for a shot) than I am afraid that is a foul by the book. And if that's the only thing Spurs can try on him, well it's not Dirk's fault. You can't slap a guy's hand as he is getting ready to go up for a shot. That's an automatic foul. Once in a blue moon you'll strip the ball, but you clearly are not making a smart basketball decision.
Prove it, area by area on the court!
Dirk has no post game, yeah right, say that to McDyess, Bonner, and Jefferson. He posted them up all game long.
I answered it. Read on the previous page.
link to your "proof" for that case? could you produce the evidence again?
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