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    All signs points in the direction of Splitter being a Spur nex year.

    BTW, a nice little video of Tiago's highlights:
    http://acbtv.acb.com/video/2804
    Thanks for the clip Bruno.

    Hard to say as it's against lesser compe ion. But Splitter did play in the Olys and held his own, right Bruno?

    I will say Ian M. has shown me anything Splitter has so it continues to be an unknown why Popazit benches Ian but seemingly will cut Ian and start all over (yet again) with a big (Splitter).

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    Tiago is going to be awesome next year. As long as the Spurs stay healthy, Tiago is going to get a ton of open looks which just about anybody should knock down.

    Hopefully he's not Beno 2.0 but his game should be able to transfer well over here.

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    Come on guys Ian just plain sucks....the coaching staff and owner see him in D league practice they saw him in the Spurs practice there is a reason they are going to let him go. He just is not a basketball player.........

    Everyone cried about when we released Pop who is he playing with now? What team is he starting on?

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    lol...


    not buying it...

    im not convinced until the ref throws the ball up and splitter tips it to our favor.. of course wearing a spurs jersey..

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    A Jeff Foster in his prime isn't too shabby. Physical player, tenacious rebounder who knows how to bang bodies and plays within his limits.

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    Sign Splitter
    Sign Mahinmi
    trade RJ+Mcdyess+Bonner(S&T) for Iguodala and Brand

    5. TD, Ian
    4. Brand, Splitter
    3. Iggy, Hairston
    2. Manu, Hairston, Hill
    1. TP, Hill

    that looks pretty good to me

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    Maybe it's me, but Splitter looked a little heavy-footed and slow on his spin moves and rolls to the basket. This highlight clips didn't show any defensive plays, so I have no idea about his prowess in that area.

    Still, he would be a welcomed addition to this club for many of the reasons already stated. A definite upgrade. I wish we had him for this Mavs series.

    I look forward to seeing a bigman rotation of Duncan, Dice, Blair, Splitter and Mahinmi for next year. That would be stout.
    I know what you mean, but Splitter is known to be a mobile big man with decent athleticism. He's not the second coming of Stoudemire, but he'll be a noticeable upgrade on Spurs bigs in this area. Buford described him as a Varejao type player, so you know he's a good defender.

    Mahinmi is gone. The Spurs aren't going to hijack this guy's career. If they didn't have him in the rotation this season, what makes you think they would next season? Assuming Splitter signs, plus Blair's expected improvement, minutes are going to be tougher to come by in the Spurs front court; not easier. One of McDyess or Bonner is gone; hopefully, it's the latter. He can be replaced by signing Cook for the minimum.

    Duncan, Splitter, McDyess, Blair, Cook, would be a strong front court. The Spurs should probably draft a wing (preferably a true SF), such as Pondexter, George, Robinson, Anderson, etc. Assuming they do, add one of them to Ginobili, Jefferson and Hairston on the wings. Bogans looks to be this years Mason, in that Pop has seemingly lost confidence in him and no longer trusts him. If that's true, he could be gone. Expect Bell or worse to be brought in to replace him. Then at the point, Parker, Hill and Temple. Gee, Jerrells, potentially the 2nd round pick and a few others can battle it out for the remaining spot or two, depending on how many players the Spurs decide to break camp with.

    Ideal (realistic) 10-11 roster...

    Starters: PF- Duncan, SF- Jefferson, C- Splitter, SG- Ginobili, PG- Parker

    Bench: PG/SG- Hill, PF- McDyess, SG- Bell, PF- Blair, SG/SF- Hairston, SF- George/Pondexter, PF- Cook

    Inactive: SG/PG- Temple
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    Mahinmi is gone. The Spurs aren't going to hijack this guy's career. If they didn't have him in the rotation this season, what makes you think they would next season? Assuming Splitter signs, plus Blair's expected improvement, minutes are going to be tougher to come by in the Spurs front court; not easier. One of McDyess or Bonner is gone; hopefully, it's the latter. He can be replaced by signing Cook for the minimum.

    Duncan, Splitter, McDyess, Blair, Cook, would be a strong front court.
    Spurs are going to try to resign Mahimni for a cheaper contract. Buford has already indicated that Mahimni is still part of their future. The reason why they didn't pick up his option was because they just didn't believe he was worth 1.75 mil ( Which would count as 3.5 mil on the cap next year). IMO They believe they will have a good chance at resigning him this off-season to a 2/3 year deal worth 800k-1.25 mil per year( which saves Holt at least a million on the cap).

    Bonner won't be here if Splitter signs, unless Blair or Dyess are traded. ( which I don't see happening).

    Cook is recycled trash. I would rather resign Mahinmi on the cheap. ( And please don't tell me other teams are going to be offering Mahimni half the MLE. That ain't happening. The market won't warrant Mahimni that type of deal. I.E see Channing Frye and the 1.9 million he got last year after being a significant role player in Portland last year.) If Mahimni gets more than 2 million I'll be shocked.

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    Spurs are going to try to resign Mahimni for a cheaper contract. Buford has already indicated that Mahimni is still part of their future. The reason why they didn't pick up his option was because they just didn't believe he was worth 1.75 mil ( Which would count as 3.5 mil on the cap next year). IMO They believe they will have a good chance at resigning him this off-season to a 2/3 year deal worth 800k-1.25 mil per year( which saves Holt at least a million on the cap).

    Bonner won't be here if Splitter signs, unless Blair or Dyess are traded. ( which I don't see happening).

    Cook is recycled trash. I would rather resign Mahinmi on the cheap. ( And please don't tell me other teams are going to be offering Mahimni half the MLE. That ain't happening. The market won't warrant Mahimni that type of deal. I.E see Channing Frye and the 1.9 million he got last year after being a significant role player in Portland last year.) If Mahimni gets more than 2 million I'll be shocked.
    I didn't hear that. That's good news, though. I don't want Mahinmi gone, just assumed he would be. His agent will probably try to find him a place where he can get more minutes though.

    No chance the Spurs trade a talent like Blair. They knew they struck gold with him and better yet, they have him on a cheap, (relatively) long term contract. He's not a Hall-of-Famer in the making, but he could turn out to be a cut below All-Star caliber.

    It comes down to McDyess or Bonner. Even though he's only got a year left, adding Splitter would be somewhat negated if McDyess is traded. The idea is to substantially upgrade the front court, not marginally.

    Completely agree about Cook. But we know the Spurs are obsessed with stretch four's, so if Bonner is gone he'd be a perfect fifth big, because that's about all he's good for. Best of all, he'll be a minimum salary player. That's why I threw his name out there, not because I'm a fan.

    No chance Mahinmi get's that, but he could get an opportunity for more minutes, which isn't happening with the Spurs (at least in terms of the regular rotation). Maybe they sit Duncan and McDyess more on back to backs, but if they get injuries again and are in a tight playoff race, that isn't happening either.

    Two questions about the roster I proposed...

    1) You think Holt is willing to pay what it'll likely cost for this roster?

    2) You think, health permitting, it's a legitimate contender?

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    lol...


    not buying it...

    im not convinced until the ref throws the ball up and splitter tips it to our favor.. of course wearing a spurs jersey..
    I'll pretty much be convinced if and when he signs a contract.

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    Came somebody please post the Master Splitter pic.

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    I didn't hear that. That's good news, though. I don't want Mahinmi gone, just assumed he would be. His agent will probably try to find him a place where he can get more minutes though.

    No chance the Spurs trade a talent like Blair. They knew they struck gold with him and better yet, they have him on a cheap, (relatively) long term contract. He's not a Hall-of-Famer in the making, but he could turn out to be a cut below All-Star caliber.

    It comes down to McDyess or Bonner. Even though he's only got a year left, adding Splitter would be somewhat negated if McDyess is traded. The idea is to substantially upgrade the front court, not marginally.

    Completely agree about Cook. But we know the Spurs are obsessed with stretch four's, so if Bonner is gone he'd be a perfect fifth big, because that's about all he's good for. Best of all, he'll be a minimum salary player. That's why I threw his name out there, not because I'm a fan.

    No chance Mahinmi get's that, but he could get an opportunity for more minutes, which isn't happening with the Spurs (at least in terms of the regular rotation). Maybe they sit Duncan and McDyess more on back to backs, but if they get injuries again and are in a tight playoff race, that isn't happening either.
    I don't think Mahimni will get quality time here either the next year or two, especially if we sign Splitter. IMO The whole objective on the situation would be to groom him for when Dyess' contract is up (or retires) or after 2012 when more minutes are available ( he will only be 25 years old). Here is why a small 2 year deal makes sense. He can keep working on his game, stay in the program, and prepare for the era after Duncan ( if he retires after 2012). When his contract is up, more minutes will be available and depending on his improvements, Spurs can reward him to a deal similar to Bonner's or perhaps more depending on how much the Spurs value him during this time.

    From what it seems the Spurs know his value and want to hold on to it, it has been evident in recent interviews by R.C mentioning Mahimni's name with Gee, Hairston, Jerrels as a group they want to keep grooming moving forward.

    All in all, if there's a strong mutual respect between the organization and Mahimni, I don't see Yanny leaving for the same amount of money. Especially if there's an understanding between the organization and Yan that they want him to be a significant part of their franchise from 2012 forward.

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    I don't think Mahimni will get quality time here either the next year or two, especially if we sign Splitter. IMO The whole objective on the situation would be to groom him for when Dyess' contract is up (or retires) or after 2012 when more minutes are available ( he will only be 25 years old). Here is why a small 2 year deal makes sense. He can keep working on his game, stay in the program, and prepare for the era after Duncan ( if he retires after 2012). When his contract is up, more minutes will be available and depending on his improvements, Spurs can reward him to a deal similar to Bonner's or perhaps more depending on how much the Spurs value him during this time.

    From what it seems the Spurs know his value and want to hold on to it, it has been evident in recent interviews by R.C mentioning Mahimni's name with Gee, Hairston, Jerrels as a group they want to keep grooming moving forward.

    All in all, if there's a strong mutual respect between the organization and Mahimni, I don't see Yanny leaving for the same amount of money. Especially if there's an understanding between the organization and Yan that they want him to be a significant part of their franchise from 2012 forward.
    That sounds great from a Spurs perspective, but if you're Mahinmi, why would you waste another year of your career riding the pine? He has to want to play and establish himself in this league as soon as possible, or at some point he'll become just another player with physical tools who fizzled out.

    Mahinmi is further along than the others though. He can play in a rotation next season. The others are just trying to get their foot in the door (or, in the case of Hairston, keep his foot in the door). As a fan, I like your idea, but from his and his agent's perspective, I can't see them going along with that.

    I don't think it's really about money for Mahinmi. He'll probably get around the same amount regardless of where he plays. It's about opportunity to play. The Spurs can't (or won't) offer it, at least not next season.

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    If we get Splitter then Ian will not see any minutes adding that Blair will probably be much better next year. So I don't see the Spurs keeping him if we get Splitter and draft Butler/Quincy/Hayword then the only position we need would be backup PG/SG and I like Temple at that position.

    I would like to keep Bonner I think each year he is getting more comfortable and adding new things to his game. Do I want him to be a starter NO but the guy is great backup and hitting over 40% from the three aint to shabby.

    If we want another big then I bet a second round guy like Brian Zoubek who averaged 16.7 rbds while playing an average of 18 minutes would be way better then what Ian could be in the next three years.

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    I know what you mean, but Splitter is known to be a mobile big man with decent athleticism. He's not the second coming of Stoudemire, but he'll be a noticeable upgrade on Spurs bigs in this area. Buford described him as a Varejao type player, so you know he's a good defender.

    Mahinmi is gone. The Spurs aren't going to hijack this guy's career. If they didn't have him in the rotation this season, what makes you think they would next season? Assuming Splitter signs, plus Blair's expected improvement, minutes are going to be tougher to come by in the Spurs front court; not easier. One of McDyess or Bonner is gone; hopefully, it's the latter. He can be replaced by signing Cook for the minimum.

    Duncan, Splitter, McDyess, Blair, Cook, would be a strong front court. The Spurs should probably draft a wing (preferably a true SF), such as Pondexter, George, Robinson, Anderson, etc. Assuming they do, add one of them to Ginobili, Jefferson and Hairston on the wings. Bogans looks to be this years Mason, in that Pop has seemingly lost confidence in him and no longer trusts him. If that's true, he could be gone. Expect Bell or worse to be brought in to replace him. Then at the point, Parker, Hill and Temple. Gee, Jerrells, potentially the 2nd round pick and a few others can battle it out for the remaining spot or two, depending on how many players the Spurs decide to break camp with.

    Ideal (realistic) 10-11 roster...

    Starters: PF- Duncan, SF- Jefferson, C- Splitter, SG- Ginobili, PG- Parker

    Bench: PG/SG- Hill, PF- McDyess, SG- Bell, PF- Blair, SG/SF- Hairston, SF- George/Pondexter, PF- Cook

    Inactive: SG/PG- Temple
    Dice retiring after this year..

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    Splitter and Brad Miller are very diferent. Splitter can't shoot from the outside but he has a better low post play.

    Of course there are a lot of guys from Argentina here but Splitter since he was a boy in Spain.I saw him a lot of games all these years.

    At best he could be as good as Marc Gasol is.That's pretty good for us.
    Great comparation!

    Tiago Splitter ~= Marc Gasol

    I saw him play with Tau in Scola days and he plays in Brazil NT, he's pretty good.

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    Sign Splitter
    Sign Mahinmi
    trade RJ+Mcdyess+Bonner(S&T) for Iguodala and Brand

    5. TD, Ian
    4. Brand, Splitter
    3. Iggy, Hairston
    2. Manu, Hairston, Hill
    1. TP, Hill

    that looks pretty good to me
    Brand..wtf?? Are you trying to cripple us? Brand is set to make $16, $17, & $18 mil over the next 3 years..Iguodola's salary is just as obscene, but I think he would produce to deserve it..Brand on the other hand is done..in fact he was done before Philly was dumb enough to sign him to that crazy contract.

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    He would be a great fit on this team. Along with a great draft pick, the Spurs will be loaded next year. I want to see Mason gone, along with someone else, just not sure who.

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    But like others have said, gonna try not to get excited until it is official.

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    Brand..wtf?? Are you trying to cripple us? Brand is set to make $16, $17, & $18 mil over the next 3 years..Iguodola's salary is just as obscene, but I think he would produce to deserve it..Brand on the other hand is done..in fact he was done before Philly was dumb enough to sign him to that crazy contract.
    I've heard that Brand is the price of Iggy, and in our current over-the-cap situation. this is easily the best we can turn RJ's expiring contract into...

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    Spurs are going to try to resign Mahimni for a cheaper contract. Buford has already indicated that Mahimni is still part of their future. The reason why they didn't pick up his option was because they just didn't believe he was worth 1.75 mil ( Which would count as 3.5 mil on the cap next year). IMO They believe they will have a good chance at resigning him this off-season to a 2/3 year deal worth 800k-1.25 mil per year( which saves Holt at least a million on the cap).

    Bonner won't be here if Splitter signs, unless Blair or Dyess are traded. ( which I don't see happening).

    Cook is recycled trash. I would rather resign Mahinmi on the cheap. ( And please don't tell me other teams are going to be offering Mahimni half the MLE. That ain't happening. The market won't warrant Mahimni that type of deal. I.E see Channing Frye and the 1.9 million he got last year after being a significant role player in Portland last year.) If Mahimni gets more than 2 million I'll be shocked.
    I might be wrong, but isn't it in the CBA that a team cannot decline a player option and then resign him for less money than what he would have been due to receive for the optional season?

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    Dice retiring after this year..
    No, he's retiring after next season.

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    I know what you mean, but Splitter is known to be a mobile big man with decent athleticism. He's not the second coming of Stoudemire, but he'll be a noticeable upgrade on Spurs bigs in this area. Buford described him as a Varejao type player, so you know he's a good defender.

    Mahinmi is gone. The Spurs aren't going to hijack this guy's career. If they didn't have him in the rotation this season, what makes you think they would next season? Assuming Splitter signs, plus Blair's expected improvement, minutes are going to be tougher to come by in the Spurs front court; not easier. One of McDyess or Bonner is gone; hopefully, it's the latter. He can be replaced by signing Cook for the minimum.

    Duncan, Splitter, McDyess, Blair, Cook, would be a strong front court. The Spurs should probably draft a wing (preferably a true SF), such as Pondexter, George, Robinson, Anderson, etc. Assuming they do, add one of them to Ginobili, Jefferson and Hairston on the wings. Bogans looks to be this years Mason, in that Pop has seemingly lost confidence in him and no longer trusts him. If that's true, he could be gone. Expect Bell or worse to be brought in to replace him. Then at the point, Parker, Hill and Temple. Gee, Jerrells, potentially the 2nd round pick and a few others can battle it out for the remaining spot or two, depending on how many players the Spurs decide to break camp with.

    Ideal (realistic) 10-11 roster...

    Starters: PF- Duncan, SF- Jefferson, C- Splitter, SG- Ginobili, PG- Parker

    Bench: PG/SG- Hill, PF- McDyess, SG- Bell, PF- Blair, SG/SF- Hairston, SF- George/Pondexter, PF- Cook

    Inactive: SG/PG- Temple
    I would be totally down for that. even w/o bell, temple could be the back up pg and hill could be the sg behind ginobili. I also really hope the spurs draft a sf. pondexter would be crip.

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    Mahinmi's chance of staying with the Spurs are very small. Some teams will come up with more attractive offers for him. And he should move away from San Antonio.

    5. TD, Ian
    4. Brand, Splitter
    Horrible. Brand can't play the 4 anymore. Splitter isn't a full time 4, not even close.

    Spurs should deal McDyess + sweetener for Tyrus Thomas. If Brown stays in Charlotte, this should be possible; he's like Dice's second father.

    Then sign a stretch-four. Bonner or someone like that. Tolliver would be a nice fit.

    Duncan, Splitter, Thomas, Tolliver, Blair - that's a big man rotation with versatility+quality+future.

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    I've heard that Brand is the price of Iggy, and in our current over-the-cap situation. this is easily the best we can turn RJ's expiring contract into...
    Brand has ONE KNEE. Iggy is a sidekick, not a franchise guy, yet he makes franchise money without having taken a team into the playoffs.

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