Pink Floyd vs Led Zeppelin

[z0sa]

John Bonham performed tons of drum solos for Led Zeppelin, not including Moby .

[misterx91578]

Zeppelin

[IronMexican]

Floyd is a solo experience. If that makes sense, at all. Take a long trip somewhere and listen to an album or two.

[z0sa]

"Too funny"

Why correct other zeppelin fans when there's nothing to correct?

[mrsmaalox]

Floyd is a solo experience. If that makes sense, at all. Take a long trip somewhere and listen to an album or two.

See that makes total sense to me. I feel drawn in by Pink Floyd. Doesn't mean Led Zeppelin isn't epic or that one is better than the other. Zep's solos, and I mean guitar here, feel very closed and selfish in a way---as if it's being done only for the pleasure of the performer.

[z0sa]

I wouldn't quite use the fact that there are professional critics as an item in your arsenal, considering that they're being downsized left and right.

Nowadays, a critic's opinion is on near-equal standing with the majority of the masses. For instance, I can go to Rottentomatoes to see what critics think, or I can go to IMDB.com to see what people think of the movie.

While I'm not going to argue that Floyd is or isn't immature, I will say that I enjoy their music, and their lyrics are easily accesible while still being quite deeper than, say, Britney Spears.

Most critics love Radiohead... I can't say I'm a big fan of most of their work. Even if it's more mature.

What's funny about Balli refreshing us on how critique works is, I'm actually majoring in journalism.

Yet his opinion is SO much more right than mine

[Viva Las Espuelas]

John Bonham performed tons of drum solos for Led Zeppelin, not including Moby .

Like?

[z0sa]

Like?

It's across all periods of Zeppelin, every album has tons of drum work. He's not considered one of the best ever for nothing.

[desflood]

Zeppelin.

[IronMexican]

See that makes total sense to me. I feel drawn in by Pink Floyd. Doesn't mean Led Zeppelin isn't epic or that one is better than the other. Zep's solos, and I mean guitar here, feel very closed and selfish in a way---as if it's being done only for the pleasure of the performer.

I think I get what you8 mean about selfishness. When listening to Floyd, I want to pick up every detail on the song. I don't get that same feeling with Zepp. Both are great, but it's a preference.

[Stringer_Bell]

See that makes total sense to me. I feel drawn in by Pink Floyd. Doesn't mean Led Zeppelin isn't epic or that one is better than the other. Zep's solos, and I mean guitar here, feel very closed and selfish in a way---as if it's being done only for the pleasure of the performer.

Musical masturbation is the realm of The Mars Volta, and only The Mars Volta. -_-

Pink Floyd beats Led Zeppelin 4-2 in a 7 game series.

[greyforest]

floyd, but both bands are timeless

You're ing re ed if you don't know that the words adolescent and Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin are often published hand in hand. That's what those bands are known for by consensus; appeal to youth, lack of depth, self-serving arrogance.

I'm pretty sure you're just a nineteen year old child yourself, so I'll give you a pass, but one day you're going to grow the up to find out a lot of people left both those bands back in High School. A lot of people.

what kind of music did you graduate to?

i think you are confusing zeppelin and floyd for something like linkin park and green day

[Viva Las Espuelas]

It's across all periods of Zeppelin, every album has tons of drum work. He's not considered one of the best ever for nothing.

you're an endless supply........................

"work" "solo" "fill"
worthy, i say

[z0sa]

you're an endless supply........................

"work" "solo" "fill"
worthy, i say

Do you play any instruments? Ever been in a band? Ever had a musical conversation with another musician? Dare I say, jammed an instrument with someone else?

These are all words that are used, very commonly by musicians, in the exact context I used them.

You are ignorant, bro. Keep rocking but stay away.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

I think I get what you8 mean about selfishness. When listening to Floyd, I want to pick up every detail on the song. I don't get that same feeling with Zepp. Both are great, but it's a preference.

i equate this to when people call music "jazz" simply cuz they don't "get it". it's because there's lot's of notes, it's out of your normal spectrum of music keys youre accustomed to, or whatever.

DISCLAIMER: i'm not offending you or anyone but lots of music simply doesn't translate in certain peoples ears. you get it or you dont. there's "jazz" then there's jazz.

[greyforest]

i dislike jazz because there's no sense of patterns. the melody and progression of the song never feeds back in to itself or sets down a pattern, it just meanders aimlessly through random chords.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Do you play any instruments? Ever been in a band? Ever had a musical conversation with another musician? Dare I say, jammed an instrument with someone else?

These are all words that are used, very commonly by musicians, in the exact context I used them.

You are ignorant, bro. Keep rocking and stay away.

been playing my instrument for 30 years. 20 of those i was privately taught. took many awards during high school. enter a statewide solo contest for UT-Arlington where they picked the top 3 players and got a chance to hang and play with gregg bissonette. i was one of those three. i've been in a many bands. many genres. i've played with bernard wright and chuck rainey, not at the same time, but i played hung out and conversed with them. i pretty much hang out and converse with musicians every damn day. have i jammed? why yes i have. i jammed with numerous musicians in a private and public setting. my favorite was at Duke's in montreaux switzerland over looking lake geneva back in '94 during the montreaux jazz festival. i remember we jammed mustang sally, horrible tune, and i played with a german bass player and a brasilian classical guitarist and a brasilian 8-string bass player with a cuban singer. that was a great night of music that lasted til about 4am. so yeah i kinda think i'm not so ignorant as you think, but keep rocking away.

[Leetonidas]

You're ing re ed if you don't know that the words adolescent and Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin are often published hand in hand. That's what those bands are known for by consensus; appeal to youth, lack of depth, self-serving arrogance.

I'm pretty sure you're just a nineteen year old child yourself, so I'll give you a pass, but one day you're going to grow the up to find out a lot of people left both those bands back in High School. A lot of people.

For the record, I own and have memorized just about every musical note Led Zeppelin ever produced. I can absolutely nail the entire solo on Achilles Last Stand and just about any other Zeppelin song. Presence is my favorite album. I've listened to 30x the amount of Led Zeppelin you have in your life. So when I say most people moved on from Led Zeppelin, trust me, my opinion is far more valid than yours.

BTW, you're also ing re ed for calling David Gilmore one of the greatest guitarists of all time. You don't even begin to have a clue as to what you're talking about.

I'm sorry man but I've never seen you say something so completely ing asinine. I love both of these bands, and David Gilmour is an AMAZING guitarist, and if you can't recognize that, then there is seriously something wrong with you. Echoes, Shine On, Time, Money, Have a Cigar, Comfortably Numb, Any Colour You Like, Dogs, Young Lust, Wish You Were Here...etc...those solos are ing insane. I have just about every single Zeppelin song except for the from Coda and a couple from Presence and I can say the Gilmour is on par with, if not better than, Jimmy.

And if you disagree than I really don't think you have much musical credibility. You sound like that guy who disagrees with people just to be different.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

i dislike jazz because there's no sense of patterns. the melody and progression of the song never feeds back in to itself or sets down a pattern, it just meanders aimlessly through random chords.

everyone won't like every genre. jazz is nothing but patterns like most music out there. in jazz there's the head, the melody. the b section and the bridge. the soloists solos over that pattern over and over til the end of the song. jazz is far from being "random chords". it's just chords you, and many others, aren't accustomed to. it's not a knock on you or anything. just stating what it is. now if you're listening to ornette coleman or sun ra then that's random, but that's avant garde jazz which is niche within itself.

[mrsmaalox]

i equate this to when people call music "jazz" simply cuz they don't "get it". it's because there's lot's of notes, it's out of your normal spectrum of music keys youre accustomed to, or whatever.

DISCLAIMER: i'm not offending you or anyone but lots of music simply doesn't translate in certain peoples ears. you get it or you dont. there's "jazz" then there's jazz.

But you can't really say that unless you peruse his entire collection of music and find a limited "number of notes", as you say. Some things are appealing to some people and other things aren't, it's not that they don't understand or "get" it. Like he said it's a preference, it doesn't mean that he is ignorant of one because he prefers another.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

But you can't really say that unless you peruse his entire collection of music and find a limited "number of notes", as you say. Some things are appealing to some people and other things aren't, it's not that they don't understand or "get" it. Like he said it's a preference, it doesn't mean that he is ignorant of one because he prefers another.

well it really wasn't "attacking" his statement in particular. i'm just "equating" it with people calling something jazz when they don't "get it". i've come across many people that say that. so from those experiences, that's what i'm drawing my conclusion from.

and i did a search for "ignorant" and only your post came up.
.......so i can't comment on that assumption.

[The Gemini Method]

Can't go wrong with either band. I think each fills a moment in my life that I need filled. You can also pop in both bands and have a thoroughly impressive experience even some 30-40 years since their "heyday." I did have the chance to watch Roger Waters @ Coac a and though it isn't nearly the same, it was quite an experience.

[desflood]

I was listening to Led Zeppelin IV in the car this morning when the kids asked me to turn on the radio instead. So I turned it on... to Ke$ha. And realized that musical life as I know it is over.

[mrsmaalox]

well it really wasn't "attacking" his statement in particular. i'm just "equating" it with people calling something jazz when they don't "get it". i've come across many people that say that. so from those experiences, that's what i'm drawing my conclusion from.

and i did a search for "ignorant" and only your post came up.
.......so i can't comment on that assumption.

Well my assumption comes only from the definition of the word ignorant which means a lack of knowledge or awareness. Which is pretty much the same thing as saying someone doesn't "get it".

Plus I didn't say you attacked him, I just said you couldn't judge what he "gets" about music by whether he prefers Pink Floyd or Led Zeppelin.

[mrsmaalox]

I was listening to Led Zeppelin IV in the car this morning when the kids asked me to turn on the radio instead. So I turned it on... to Ke$ha. And realized that musical life as I know it is over.

NO NO NO!! It's my car, I'm driving, we listen to what I want And when they have their own cars, they have my permission to listen to what they want.