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    wifey gives the kid a pinch when he won't settle down in public.

    nobody has to witness a public spanking and he settles down quick...maybe just a few tears.

    don't mess with puerto rican moms.


    otherwise, it's the ol count of 1-2-3 and he settles down at about the 2 and a half mark...if it hits 3, he gets a code red at naptime.

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    If you are dug that deep in your own agenda to see what I wrote, then anything else I say will just feed your criticism irregardless if I'm even making a marginally sustainable point that applies to more people than myself.

    I don't know your situation, but it seems like you have bigger issues with this topic so I'll refrain from being a stand-in for the men in your life that shy away from "responsibility."
    I am a man, and I had a great father too. So any issues that you think I have with men in my life are perceived. The issues I have are with those who keep pushing the raising of their children on others when the decision to raise your damn kids is a pretty easy one.

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    wifey gives the kid a pinch when he won't settle down in public.

    nobody has to witness a public spanking and he settles down quick...maybe just a few tears.

    don't mess with puerto rican moms.


    otherwise, it's the ol count of 1-2-3 and he settles down at about the 2 and a half mark...if it hits 3, he gets a code red at naptime .

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    Beating a kid is way over-rated as a method of teaching. I have a 6 yr old that is a great kid and I do not think I have ever had to whip him. I am not saying I wouldn't but so far not needed. I am not saying he's perfect but he knows right from wrong and will try to do right. If a grown-up told him not to do something he wouldn't do it. The issue is not about when they do something wrong but the time you invest in them before that. Beating the crap out of kid does not make them a good kid; they just get sneakier or get big enough to hit back.

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    Sheyitt...my mom is the proper grammar queen. When I was a teen, I used to use double negatives and poor grammar just to piss her off. One time she couldn't take it anymore and stab me in the arm forearm with a fork. I had prong marks and she drew blood.

    But I speak properly now!

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    She probably didn't even have to beat him; just the sight of the belt would work in most cases. I used to keep one of those huge metal barbecue spatulas in my car. Never used it, but they knew it was there for "just in case".


    Maalox that would be considered abuse.

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    Whats a 5 year old doing outside unsupervised in the first place.
    This is my issue with the story. Someone who doesn't supervise the kid to the point they can climb on top of a FedEx truck/a camper, etc repeatedly? Check yourself first for being a lazy ass parent before you think about spanking your kid.

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    Beating a kid is way over-rated as a method of teaching. I have a 6 yr old that is a great kid and I do not think I have ever had to whip him. I am not saying I wouldn't but so far not needed. I am not saying he's perfect but he knows right from wrong and will try to do right. If a grown-up told him not to do something he wouldn't do it. The issue is not about when they do something wrong but the time you invest in them before that. Beating the crap out of kid does not make them a good kid; they just get sneakier or get big enough to hit back.
    Beating, yes...spanking, no, IMO. Big difference between "beating" your child and giving them a spanking. But again, use what works best for you. My older brother never spanked his kids and now they are too old but they sure could use a good spanking right now and they are 20 and 24 yrs old!

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    Do all of you parents supervise your kids 24/7 when they are out of the house? I see kids riding their bikes all over the neighborhood and I don't see any parents riding or running behind them. I know what you all mean and yes, a 5 yr old should never be outside unsupervised. I'm am still very cautious about letting my youngest play outside and she is 10. My MIL and sister in law say I am way to protective and need to let go. Nah.

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    I was a handful at a really young age and used to get beat a lot.

    Getting beat as a child leads to fond memories as an adult. See fork + S y's arm for reference.

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    Maalox that would be considered abuse.
    Yea but now we all have a good laugh reminising about how the mere threat of "The Spatula" kept everyone in line when we were out of the house

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    This is my issue with the story. Someone who doesn't supervise the kid to the point they can climb on top of a FedEx truck/a camper, etc repeatedly? Check yourself first for being a lazy ass parent before you think about spanking your kid.
    I try to cut her a little slack on this - she's alone with four kids and going to school full time while her husband is in Iraq for a year.

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    I am a man, and I had a great father too. So any issues that you think I have with men in my life are perceived. The issues I have are with those who keep pushing the raising of their children on others when the decision to raise your damn kids is a pretty easy one.
    Maybe I missed something, but I don't think SB or anyone else made this a gender issue. I don't think SB is suggesting parenting is a woman's job--I think he was just responding to this particular story which involves a mother losing her temper.

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    I was a handful at a really young age and used to get beat a lot.

    Getting beat as a child leads to fond memories as an adult. See fork + S y's arm for reference.


    My dad was once a marine and he always used to make us stand at attention when we got in trouble. He made my sister and I do this at a beach once for about 30 minutes while my brother threw rocks at us and some construction workers laughed at us. I think I would have rather had the fork in the arm!

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    What you do with your kid is more important than what you do to them.

    How you punish them is less of a predictor of how they will develop than the time you play with them.

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    My dad was once a marine and he always used to make us stand at attention when we got in trouble. He made my sister and I do this at a beach once for about 30 minutes while my brother threw rocks at us and some construction workers laughed at us. I think I would have rather had the fork in the arm!
    My mom is 5 foot nothing 100 lbs. but she had a mean slap. She would yell half in Italian and half in English, pausing after each word to smack the out of me. I don't think standing in the corner would have done much to a child that blew out the doorwall by throwing a potato masher through it or that accidentally, of course, lit the couch on fire.

    And some of the chases I can recall like they happened yesterday. I used the double-sided fireplace as my escape route and she used her shoe like a tazer.

    I lost more than I won.

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    My mom is 5 foot nothing 100 lbs. but she had a mean slap. She would yell half in Italian and half in English, pausing after each word to smack the out of me. I don't think standing in the corner would have done much to a child that blew out the doorwall by throwing a potato masher through it or that accidentally, of course, lit the couch on fire.

    And some of the chases I can recall like they happened yesterday. I used the double-sided fireplace as my escape route and she used her shoe like a tazer.

    I lost more than I won.
    Ah--the Italian mothers! My mom is Italian but was born in the states. Her parents were off the boat. My mom and aunt would be afraid to tell my grandmother if they got hurt or sick because it usually resulted in being yelled at or smacked.

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    Maybe I missed something, but I don't think SB or anyone else made this a gender issue. I don't think SB is suggesting parenting is a woman's job--I think he was just responding to this particular story which involves a mother losing her temper.
    He gave a hypothetical wherein he and some nameless woman have a child and SHE beat the child because of HER bad parenting skills. This is when I started talking about the fact that the man has the role in raising the children.

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    He gave a hypothetical wherein he and some nameless woman have a child and SHE beat the child because of HER bad parenting skills. This is when I started talking about the fact that the man has the role in raising the children.
    I addressed that "role" as starting when the man decides to leave his in a woman when he ejaculates without a condom (the creative process). Their needs to be ground rules between the parents on how to discipline the child, all it takes is one parent to say "there won't be any spanking" and that's it doesn't matter how angry the child makes you - respect your woman's wishes and/or hope you have a woman that respects your wishes. You perceived me as telling people what to do with their kids, but I already stated I'd never call anyone out on it.

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    Che cazzo stai dicendo? DisgruntledLionFan#54,927's Avatar
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    Ah--the Italian mothers! My mom is Italian but was born in the states. Her parents were off the boat. My mom and aunt would be afraid to tell my grandmother if they got hurt or sick because it usually resulted in being yelled at or smacked.
    Yeah, both my parents are boaters so no place was off limits for the beatings to take place. Boaters have no shame and everything is your fault.

    I don't remember this, but when my mom used to go shopping at places like KMart, I used to run away from her and hide in the middle of the clothing racks. It took her and two store employees a half an hour to find me. She rag-dolled me right in the middle of the store and my sister got the slap for just for laughing.

    Apparently, it was the last time I ever did that.

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