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  1. 05-09-2005 #51
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    1955-56 - Bob Pet , St. Louis
    1956-57 - Bob Cousy, Boston
    1957-58 - Bill Russell, Boston
    1958-59 - Bob Pet , St. Louis
    1959-60 - Wilt Chamberlain, Philadelphia
    1960-61 - Bill Russell, Boston
    1961-62 - Bill Russell, Boston
    1962-63 - Bill Russell, Boston
    1963-64 - Oscar Robertson, Cincinnati
    1964-65 - Bill Russell, Boston
    1965-66 - Wilt Chamberlain, Philadelphia
    1966-67 - Wilt Chamberlain, Philadelphia
    1967-68 - Wilt Chamberlain, Philadelphia
    1968-69 - Wes Unseld, Baltimore
    1969-70 - Willis Reed, New York
    1970-71 - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Milwaukee
    1971-72 - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Milwaukee
    1972-73 - Dave Cowens, Boston
    1973-74 - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Milwaukee
    1974-75 - Bob McAdoo, Buffalo
    1975-76 - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Los Angeles
    1976-77 - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Los Angeles
    1977-78 - Bill Walton, Portland
    1978-79 - Moses Malone, Houston
    1979-80 - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Los Angeles
    1980-81 - Julius Erving, Philadelphia
    1981-82 - Moses Malone, Houston
    1982-83 - Moses Malone, Philadelphia
    1983-84 - Larry Bird, Boston
    1984-85 - Larry Bird, Boston
    1985-86 - Larry Bird, Boston
    1986-87 - Magic Johnson, Los Angeles Lakers
    1987-88 - Michael Jordan, Chicago
    1988-89 - Magic Johnson, Los Angeles Lakers
    1989-90 - Magic Johnson, Los Angeles Lakers
    1990-91 - Michael Jordan, Chicago
    1991-92 - Michael Jordan, Chicago
    1992-93 - Charles Barkley, Phoenix
    1993-94 - Hakeem Olajuwon, Houston
    1994-95 - David Robinson, San Antonio
    1995-96 - Michael Jordan, Chicago
    1996-97 - Karl Malone, Utah
    1997-98 - Michael Jordan, Chicago
    1998-99 - Karl Malone, Utah
    1999-00 - Shaquille O'Neal, Los Angeles Lakers
    2000-01 - Allen Iverson, Philadelphia
    2001-02 - Tim Duncan, San Antonio
    2002-03 - Tim Duncan, San Antonio
    2003-04 - Kevin Garnett, Minnesota
    2004-05 - Steve Nash, Phoenix

    Yeah, I mean, it's like, look at that list, dude. The MVP award is racist...


    Clearly, the writer was looking for controversy. And to write something just to create controversy and being named is not the best way to make an accusation.

    Politically correct disclaimer: The names in bold are not bolded because I believe the white MVPs were more important. They are highlighted to make a point in the argument.
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  2. 05-09-2005 #52
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    man if shaq was white he'd be america's favorite son. none of this is new look at how people ride the nuts of white quarterbacks while black quarterbacks are only noted for their pure athleticism as opposed to their decision making. this is america and some people still need to see the white man in control.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimcs50
    Nash is not even American...why would the American media want the white MVP laureate, our great white hope, to be a freaking hoser?
    Nash is an anti american dirtbag(IMO). But he plays good bball. Shaq's dad is military and he grew up as an Army brat. He's more white american than Nash.
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    while black quarterbacks are only noted for their pure athleticism as opposed to their decision making.
    When's the last time a black QB won an NFL Superbowl?

    I think the whole race thing is stupid and played out, especially in sports. 90% of pro athletes in the big two (basketball, football) are black, and do amazing things.

    A PG who led his team to the best record in the league, and who is the first white guy in 20 years to win the MVP, and someone's gotta play the race card?

    Give it a ing rest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vashner
    Nash is an anti american dirtbag(IMO). But he plays good bball. Shaq's dad is military and he grew up as an Army brat. He's more white american than Nash.

    How the is Bash an anti-american dirtybag?Because he's from Canada, talk about obtuse post of the day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan
    When's the last time a black QB won an NFL Superbowl?
    yep dem negroes just aint smart enough to win duh super bowl


    I think the whole race thing is stupid and played out, especially in sports. 90% of pro athletes in the big two (basketball, football) are black, and do amazing things.

    A PG who led his team to the best record in the league, and who is the first white guy in 20 years to win the MVP, and someone's gotta play the race card?
    when someone else did a better job. shaqs loss meant more than nashs to their old team and shaqs impact was greater for his new team. thats a mvp no matter how you look at it


    Give it a ing rest.
    suck a you little 'job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by violentkitten
    man if shaq was white he'd be america's favorite son. none of this is new look at how people ride the nuts of white quarterbacks while black quarterbacks are only noted for their pure athleticism as opposed to their decision making. this is america and some people still need to see the white man in control.
    If this were a baseball game, you'd be so far out in the field that you'd be covering centerfield from the downtown business district.
    This is such total crap! Some people need to see the white man in control? Did that not go out with yellow shoes, kittykat?
    Only jerks judge a person by the color of their skin and only jerks think this is how people judge them. We've come a long way, baby - thanks in great part to athletes who earned our respect and love due to their ability to slash great big holes in whatever stupid color lines existed.
    For a great many of us who never gave a damn, it came as no surprise. Only people who persist in believing that racial or ethnic iden y is important have a problem with just looking at everybody as a member of the human race. It just boils me to hear racist crap - and although you may think you're being kind to non-whites, you're being horribly racist.
    If you didn't care, you wouldn't be writing such slop. Black, White, Yellow, Brown, Red, Purple or Polka-Dot - who the really cares. It's the person who matters!!!!
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    race does matter in this country today. you are blind if you dont think people still see sport in such a manner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nickbroken
    How the is Bash an anti-american dirtybag?Because he's from Canada, talk about obtuse post of the day.
    He didn't make any friends spouting off about the war when he had no idea what he was talking about. He's en led to his opinion, but so are the people who didn't appreciate the idiocy that spewed from his mouth.

    This post is not to start a political discussion, but to let you know why someone would say that about Nash.
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    Nash has ran america and our culture down before. Not like he's bin laden or anything but i don't think he's like a manu or parker that doesn't feel the need to run america down just bc he's playing there.

    No big deal to me though.


    Still can't figure out what Flash Gordon was getting at though.
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    This is the most insane crap I've heard for along time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ducks
    espn is stupid
    We have a winner!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by violentkitten
    when someone else did a better job. shaqs loss meant more than nashs to their old team and shaqs impact was greater for his new team. thats a mvp no matter how you look at it
    OK, Shaq leaving the Lakers was not the ONLY thing wrong with them this year. Injuries plagued them, I would bet this team wouldn't be going far even with Shaq (yeah, they'd still make the Playoffs, but they wouldn't be in the Second round like the Heat are).

    And really, what bearing on how well Nash or Shaq played last year have to do with this year? Does Shaq deserve MVP? Why? Wade is the one dominating the numbers, not Shaq.

    Shaq goes out, Heat does just fine. Nash goes out, and the Suns collapse like a Black Hole.

    It ain't racist.

    It's about Tim and Shaq being injured and their teams doing fine without... and the Suns being the #1 ing team. End of god damn story.
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    It's the 2005 Most Valuable Player not the 2005 Player Whose Team Sucked Worse After Losing Him. 2004 is irrelevant.
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    So long as "value" is part of the award, maybe they should factor in the current season's salary into the decision.
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