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    Get outta town with the Van Gundy wouldn't lie stuff...He's a freaking coach, they are just one step above military recruiters in the lying and twisting department...and they are the most biased people on earth.

    How many times have you seen a coach raise about a call that went in favor of his team, no matter how bad? You ever see one get a tech or get thrown out of the game because his player got away with a foul?

    How many times have you seen a coach try to put pressure on the refs in the media to favor his team? Van Gundy has done it before. You think he cares if the other team is getting screwed? You think he will admit it?

    On top of that...Yao does set moving picks....the simple fact that Van Gundy refuses to acknowledge that proves he is capable of lying or ignoring the truth.
    At the least it sounds like he wants Yao to be able to continue to set illegal picks...so much for his integrity.

    I think Cuban is more honest than Van Gundy.


    It just doesn't add up...

    #1.Stern hates Mark Cuban more than any other person in the NBA.
    #2.Stern is totally on Yao's jock. It's sickening how overhyped Yao is by the NBA.
    #3.The Rockets are in a bigger market than the Mavs.
    #4.The Rockets are more of an international draw than the Mavs.
    #5.The Rockets would benefit more from a financial standpoint and higher profile from advancing than the Mavs will.

    The cospiracy theories get old...if you guys really believe in all these conspiracies, why do you even watch the NBA?


    Van Gundy has always been controversial and he'd freaking lie through his teeth if it could give him an edge in a series...

    The son of a has Juwan Howard playing for his team...that's all you need to know about him. I gurantee you that if you ask him he'll say Juwan has never thrown a cheap shot in his entire NBA career.

    Stern nailed Van Gudny's ass to the wall when he said it was a new low in ref manipulation...coaches try to manipulate them all the time...there's absolutely no reason for the league to want to favof the Mavs over the Rockets...


    You think he and the Rockets don't ask the league to watch other players?

    Coaches do it every game...The Spurs send stuff in all the time to the league for revirew.

    My guess is that the Mavs did legitimately complain about it, someone contacted him about it...and Van Gundy twisted it into something else to give him an edge in this series...

    He was definitely trying to get an edge...even if it was true Van Gundy was still trying to manipulate the situation to his advantage...so much so that he risked the career of who ever emailed him.
    Well put. I can't believe people are falling for JVG's lies when he'd rat out his on mom to get a win in a playoff series.

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    When a Bulls team in 98 that WASNT as good as the Jazz win, and a Lakers team in 02 wins a ring that shouldnt have you should now.
    People who still watch the NBA but believe in these type of conspiracies must have a negative IQ. I can't imagine a bigger waste of time and money then supporting a league in which you think the results are corrupt.

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    Thanks TimVP! If I had known you were going to be nice I would have held off on ripping AJ in that other thread...my bad.

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    Remember all the BS calls late in the season favoring the Cavs this year?


    Every beat writer was writing about them.

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    People who still watch the NBA but believe in these type of conspiracies must have a negative IQ. I can't imagine a bigger waste of time and money then supporting a league in which you think the results are corrupt.
    If you honestly don't believe that referees are influenced by the league office in their officiating of the playoffs then it is you that has the negative IQ. It is obvious.

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    What a goof! Fire that sad-eyed freak!
    The funniest is when a reporter told him on live tv that he might lose his job. He was about to bust out crying.

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    I don't think what JVG was talking about is a conspiracy really. I'm sure the refs are told to watch out for all sorts of things now and then. I don't think JVG said that the refs were told to call more fouls on Yao, just watch those plays more closely.

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    I don't buy this at all, personally. I think this is a compromise between the League and Van Gundy to end the controversy. It was very clear to me that JVG was talking about a Referee when he used the term "official."

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    Wait, I don't remember that sickdism, please explain and give details?

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    I don't know...

    like whottt said, WHY would the NBA have a conspiracy against Yao Ming and the Rockets over the Mavs?

    All I do know is that an Instant replay review would quell a lot of these conspiracy theories and make for fairer games.

    Coach challenges would be nice, too. (One a playoff game, lose a timeout if wrong).

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    A $100,000 fine and threat of permanent banning because a coach made up an example to try to get the refs to call one of his players fairly? I'm not crying conspiracy, but something still doesn't add up.

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    Stern may have overreacted, but he felt the integrity of the game was being questioned.

    Look, nobody is questioning that Refs make bad calls. But do they make bad calls on purpose so teams like the Lakers and Mavs (?) win?

    I'm not buying it. Besides the 0.4 second crap, I don't think you can ever blame a whole series on the refs.

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    .04 had nothing to do with the refs, it was the guy manning the clock.

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