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    lol thinking macedonia is a real country you ignorant er,they are called fyrom for a reason

    lol people didn't even know america existed thousands of year ago

    lol i am getting american pussy every summer,your girlfriend's maybe??

    lol Alexander The Great was Greek but i guess you have no idea about the ancient City-States of Greece,you guys were eating one another back then
    lol

    My friend, I have nothing against a Greek, not that a Greek is an ethnicity, but you should learn something.

    Alexander was is and has always been a Macedonian. There were no greeks back then and the enes? well, he fought against them and the enes hated alexander and his father and the macedonians, and now you are claiming them as yours? That's a myth, but just as almost everything is a myth what you claim. They despised the Macedonians and saw them as barbarians.

    Second, its not fyrom, thats just how you ignorant people call it as part of your lies and xenophobic hysteria. First Greece managed to convince the rest of the world, but now? Nope, Greek lies are exposed more and more everyday. The world finally sees the truth about Macedonia.

    Plus, Greece is in a very bad position right now, so you arent really in the position to claim anything anymore.

    Even better for Macedonia. It's over with Greece and their ridiculous claims, it's going down

    lol Alexander The Great was Greek but i guess you have no idea about the ancient City-States of Greece,you guys were eating one another back then
    O yeah, this clearly shows you know nothing about this history because Macedonia has never been a city state nor has Alexander ever been part of any city state. Also those city states werent Greek, the word Greek and the country Greece didnt even exist.

    There were City states, Athens, Sparta etc, part of the enic world and the enes. Macedonia has never been a city state, in the contrary, Macedonian was a kingdom and had no democracy. That shows even more that they were no enes. And because of that, the enes saw them as barbarians and peasants

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    lol pictures of electric lights on in Greece

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    HAHAHA it's threads like this that remind us why we wanted KBP back in the first place. Endless entertainment lol

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    lol

    My friend, I have nothing against a Greek, not that a Greek is an ethnicity, but you should learn something.

    Alexander was is and has always been a Macedonian. There were no greeks back then and the enes? well, he fought against them and the enes hated alexander and his father and the macedonians, and now you are claiming them as yours? That's a myth, but just as almost everything is a myth what you claim. They despised the Macedonians and saw them as barbarians.

    Second, its not fyrom, thats just how you ignorant people call it as part of your lies and xenophobic hysteria. First Greece managed to convince the rest of the world, but now? Nope, Greek lies are exposed more and more everyday. The world finally sees the truth about Macedonia.

    Plus, Greece is in a very bad position right now, so you arent really in the position to claim anything anymore.

    Even better for Macedonia. It's over with Greece and their ridiculous claims, it's going down



    O yeah, this clearly shows you know nothing about this history because Macedonia has never been a city state nor has Alexander ever been part of any city state. Also those city states werent Greek, the word Greek and the country Greece didnt even exist.

    There were City states, Athens, Sparta etc, part of the enic world and the enes. Macedonia has never been a city state, in the contrary, Macedonian was a kingdom and had no democracy. That shows even more that they were no enes. And because of that, the enes saw them as barbarians and peasants
    What language did they speak??Did they speak the same as Athenians??Did they worship the same Gods of ING Olympus??

    You are from Fyrom,fine...What language was your people speaking back then??Well,you didn't exist..No such culture ever existed..

    If Alexander and Filipos were macedonians,let's pretend that's true,do you know any Alexanders in your country??These are Greek names you er..

    Alexander's teacher was Athenian,Greek..Why didn't Filipos hire a macedonian teacher??Because they DIDN'T EXIST!!!

    Alexander's army that slaughtered the persian contained many soldiers from other cities of Greece,not only from Pella..

    Learn some history and stop believing the propaganda served to you son

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    that's true. Spartan soldiers got to corn hole their apprentice, who was generally a teenager. Not only do Greeks advocate sexuality, but also pedophilia.
    Spartan warriors are the greatest human killing machines the world has ever seen...

    Try holding a spot with 300 men against 1 million for 3 days and then talk ..

    You wouldn't do it even if you were playing stratego, got

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    Can you imagine if KBP was Mexican instead? His butt would explode due to being hurt after all the "fat " posts.

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    There's actually very little evidence supporting ancient Greeks pederasty involving anal sex. They ed their inner thighs, not their assholes, which the Greeks considered dirty.

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    Spartan warriors are the greatest human killing machines the world has ever seen...

    And they're still gay pedophiles.

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    Can you imagine if KBP was Mexican instead? His butt would explode due to being hurt after all the "fat " posts.
    Imagine if he was Greek.

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    Spartan warriors are the greatest human killing machines the world has ever seen...

    Try holding a spot with 300 men against 1 million for 3 days and then talk ..

    You wouldn't do it even if you were playing stratego, got
    That's a buncha bull .

    The Hoover Street Deuces are the greatest killers the world ever known.

    Them Spartan crackas would be coming at us with swords and , wearing them sandals and skirts, and all we gotta do is pull out our gats and bust a cap in they asses.

    We wouldnt break a sweat taking them bustas out.

    Aint no sword and sandal mutha er stand a chance against a Hoover Deuce.

    You better believe that.

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    Also KBP did it again, and this time he barely replied to this thread. He owns you all.

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    What language did they speak??Did they speak the same as Athenians??Did they worship the same Gods of ING Olympus??

    You are from Fyrom,fine...What language was your people speaking back then??Well,you didn't exist..No such culture ever existed..

    If Alexander and Filipos were macedonians,let's pretend that's true,do you know any Alexanders in your country??These are Greek names you er..

    Alexander's teacher was Athenian,Greek..Why didn't Filipos hire a macedonian teacher??Because they DIDN'T EXIST!!!

    Alexander's army that slaughtered the persian contained many soldiers from other cities of Greece,not only from Pella..

    Learn some history and stop believing the propaganda served to you son
    They spoke Macedonian regionally. enic language/koine in that time was the lingua Franca for the enic world, for the then known world, of course Alexander spoke enic/koine. You can compare it with the Western world and the English language being the lingua franca of the Western world. Almost everybody speaks english, many germans, many spaniards etcc, does that make them english? No, its just the lingua franca of the western world.

    But even though it was the lingua franca and alexander spoke it, he still used macedonian too, in communication with his closest macedonian generals and soldiers. There are several sources for that.

    Now, the religion what you say worship the religion of the gods of olympus. First of all that its olympus, doesnt say anything, olympus was no part of any greek or enic country, there was no country back then and it was no part of ene city state.

    Second, Macedonians had their own gods, their own pagan cult, but they also accepted enic gods and religion, because that was how it was in the then known world. French people, English people, Italian people, Dutch people all are Christian, does that make them all the same people? No, they just share the same religion. So this argument of yours also goes down the drain.

    Then you say Alexanders teacher was athenian. Athenian?! looll His teacher was Aristotle. Aristotle was no athenian, he was born in Macedonia in fact. In stageira on halkidiki. Because of athens being the main developed part of the enic world, the metropolis, he went to there to get schooled in Athens, then he went back and became the teacher of Alexander. But he was certainly not from Athens. You can compare that to a guy from nowadays Greece, going to new york, being a developed metropolis city to get schooled and then go back to his native country and teach his fellow people what he has learned.

    You say alexanders army contained many greeks from other places. Yes, thats true, you know how? Alexander and his macedonian father and their macedonian army started with macedonians and a group of macedonian generals, then they attacked the enes and conquered enes and took prisoners of war, those prisoners of war were being forced to fight for alexander and the macedonian army, so yeah, the army also consisted of other people then macedonians, but alexander and his personal generals, were all macedonian.

    I am fully aware both sides, macedonia and greece all serve propaganda, thats true. But, what you are saying is just plain bull , so please stop talking if you dont have any clue about history.

    Gia mas file

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    ene people back then didnt even see alexander as ene, they hated him, he was a barbarian foreigner from macedonia in their eyes who came to conquer the enic states and killed the enes.

    You should read the phillipics by Demosthenes, the good old athenian orator, who is one of 'yours'. You should read what he had to say about the Macedonians and then come spitting your BS and placing ridiculous claims nowadays.

    Macedonia has never been Greek, Macedonians have never been Greeks, Alexander has never been a Greek. Not now, not then, not ever.

    Ever since the fall of the Macedonian empire, the enes and the nowadays Greeks have tried to erase us Macedonians from the globe. You annexed the southern part of our country to yours, and deported all macedonians from there, those who have stayed were tortured and forced to declare as greeks, they were forbidden to speak in their own macedonian language, all macedonian family surnames were forced to be changed into greek sounding names, all macedonian city and village names were changed into greek names and those atrocities have been going on for years. The greeks had a population exchange with turkey, and the greeks from asia minor were placed in Aegean macedonia,
    so that they could take the houses of the MAcedonians and claim the lands and made sure that the demographics now were more greeks than macedonians.

    Greece is now finally showing its true colors, its over, your lies are exposed and you wont have support anymore for your ridiculous claims. The latest being with the name, we will never change our name and the world supports us, including the USA.

    And now Greece is broke, you are not powerful anymore, its over, you are not in a position to claim anything.

    so please stfu about your ridiculous claims and talk about something else. This thread isnt even about macedonia or our problems.

    The thread is about not being racist towards greeks, well i agree. I dont have them i have no problem with greeks, but if they claim such bull and tell me i dont exist, and tell me that my history and my king is greek, then please gtfo.

    Here's to normal greeks

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    Show me ONE sign that proves Alexander was speaking a language different than Greek...One writing,something..You say there are several sources,I ask one..

    Do you use the name Alexander or Filipos in your country??Because they are very well known greek names..Or show me signs of other Gods being worshipped..

    These soldiers were not prisoners of war,they wanted to fight for Alexander.. Spartans lost the war against Alexander too,but they never sent army..

    You did NOT exist back then...You were NOTHING..Barbarians of different tribes that are now mixed together to form a country..

    Show me signs of the macedonian civilization other than Pella and the Greek part of macedonia...There is NONE..

    I can accept you being the northern part of macedonia,geographically,but as a culture,no,you are nothing even close to it..

    I respect you for having historic knowledge,but it's the wrong kind of knowledge my friend..At list you reallize that it's just propaganda

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    Show me ONE sign that proves Alexander was speaking a language different than Greek...One writing,something..You say there are several sources,I ask one..
    Alexander speaks: "The Macedonians are going to judge your case," he said. "Please state whether you will use your native language before them."

    Philotas: "Besides the Macedonians, there are many present who, I think, will find what I am going to say easier to understand if I use the language you yourself have been using, your purpose, I believe, being only to enable more people to understand you."

    Then the king said: "Do you see how offensive Philotas find even his native language? He alone feels an aversion to learning it. But let him speak as he pleases - only remember he as contemptuous of our way of life as he is of our language."


    -- Quintus Curtius Rufus, Historiae Alexandri Magni


    Alexander and Philotas were Macedonian.

    The accuracy of a Roman source can certainly be debated, but it is said he had access to many primary sources. It's not like anyone has access to them now.

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    I despise all the PIGS countries Portugal, Italy, Greece & Spain. Who are all incompetent bunch of lazy mother ers and are in the process of ing all our lives up.

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    Show me ONE sign that proves Alexander was speaking a language different than Greek...One writing,something..You say there are several sources,I ask one..

    Do you use the name Alexander or Filipos in your country??Because they are very well known greek names..Or show me signs of other Gods being worshipped..

    These soldiers were not prisoners of war,they wanted to fight for Alexander.. Spartans lost the war against Alexander too,but they never sent army..

    You did NOT exist back then...You were NOTHING..Barbarians of different tribes that are now mixed together to form a country..

    Show me signs of the macedonian civilization other than Pella and the Greek part of macedonia...There is NONE..

    I can accept you being the northern part of macedonia,geographically,but as a culture,no,you are nothing even close to it..

    I respect you for having historic knowledge,but it's the wrong kind of knowledge my friend..At list you reallize that it's just propaganda

    Lol first you say i have no knowledge at all about this, then you say you respect my knowledge of history.

    nice, I know you are confused, you cant help it either.

    Read some Quintus;
    Quintus curtius rufus; "[12] Alexander speaks: "The Macedonians are going to judge your case," he said. "Please state whether you will use your native language before them."

    Philotas: "Besides the Macedonians, there are many present who, I think, will find what I am going to say easier to understand if I use the language you yourself have been using, your purpose, I believe, being only to enable more people to understand you."

    Then the king said: "Do you see how offensive Philotas find even his native language? He alone feels an aversion to learning it. But let him speak as he pleases - only remember he as contemptuous of our way of life as he is of our language." [p.138]"
    [Calisthenes could not be brought in front of the army (the jury), because he was a Greek and not a Macedonian. Callisthenes’ ethnicity is of primary significance here. Similarly, Eumenes’ ethnicity was the primary determining factor in the final outcome. It is also suggested in Plutarch Eum. 3.1, where Eumenes expresses his belief that, being a foreigner, he had no right to take sides in the dispute which broke out among the Macedonians over the succession to Alexander after the latter’s death. Furthermore, in Diodoros’ narrative 19.13.1 Seleucos urges Eumenes’ officers and men to desert him because he is a foreigner, who, furthermore, has killed many Macedonians. The wealth of evidence supporting the fact that ancient Macedonians were a separate ethnos from the Greeks is overwhelming. Eumenes and Callisthenes, being foreigners, foreign born individuals - Greeks, did not stand a chance among the Macedonians. At the end, their Greek ethnicity cost them their lives.]

    [20] [Alexander speaks to his Macedonians] "Where is that shout of yours that shows your enthusiasm? Where that characteristic look of my Macedonians?" [p.217]
    50,000 strong enes(greeks) were with Darius fighting the Macedonians, while Alexander took only 7,000 enes(Greeks) next to his Macedonians which served as "hostages" and "were potential trouble makers", which he got rid of only when he learned that the rebellion in Greece against the Macedonian occupation forces there was suppressed (Badian, Borza).
    Read some Demosthenes, your famous Athenian orator, who had to say this about the Macedonians and our king filip;
    "... not only no Greek, nor related to the Greeks, but not even a barbarian from any place that can be named with honors, but a pestilent knave from Macedonia, whence it was never yet possible to buy a decent slave" - Demosthenes, Third Philippic, 31. The famous words that this Greek orator from Athens used to describe the Macedonian king Philip II, the father of Alexander the Great, prior to Philip’s conquest of Greece.

    You dont know any better. Im not going to spend my time any further, because you clearly do not have a clue about history and the history of macedonia. Also this is a basketball forum, not history and this is a thread about stopping racism against GReeks. So lets drop this, and if you continue, then at least come with some good arguments.

    Now if KBP is indeed a Greek, he is a good Greek, he dont give a and he is here for basketball. I like KBP

    I have nothing against you or your people, i respect everyone, but when someone tells me i do not exist or wants to steal my iden y, that's just ridiculous. My family comes from pella prefecture, am I a Greek? No, I am a Macedonian and you cant do anything about it. Those times of Greek torture, ethnic cleansing and oppression are over. Greece is going down.

    Live and let live, be what you want but respect others and their history, Greeks need to grow up. Its not only with us you have a problem with, you have problems with Turks, Albanians everyone, you even tried to prevent gay lesbian people in the world to use the name 'lesbian', bescause you think you have the sole rights to that name. grow up

    now, here's to you and your country, I hope for you your country will recover, if at all. Gia mas!

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    This is an interesting article I want to share, if interested. Others, outsiders, non greeks and non macedonians are thinking like; damn, chill out, who cares. This shows why this matter is important for us.

    Greeks and Iden y theft
    Nowadays we often hear in the news of people having their iden y stolen, resulting in life altering consequences for the victims. This, however, is not a new phenomenon, at least not for the Macedonians.

    When an iden y thief steals a person´s iden y, which on the surface may sound funny, they steal more than their name; they steal their history, property, dignity and life. The victims find themselves isolated, questioned and sometimes suspected of having done something wrong. Every time the iden y thief steals money from the victim´s accounts and the victim complains, the victim is put in question and his or her entire existence is put under scrutiny.

    As Macedonians we are well aware of how it feels to be victims of iden y theft. We are feeling those effects even today.

    Our story begins in the late 1800´s when our neighbours the Greeks, Serbians and Bulgarians decided that they wanted our Macedonia for themselves. To legitimize their claims they first declared that "Macedonians do not exist" and as potential heirs to Macedonia, they began to speak on behalf of the Macedonian people. To make their claims more believable the three began producing census and demographic reports each claiming that the vast majority of the people living in Macedonia were of their own kind with a few Vlachs and Turks here and there. Each in turn produced reports that greatly exaggerated their claims and contradicted the others. Unfortunately they could not agree as to who and how many were actually Greeks and how many were Serbians or Bulgarians, but in the absence of Macedonians in their reports they all agreed that "Macedonians did not exist".

    The Greeks claimed there were more Greeks living in Macedonia than all the others combined. Serbia and Bulgaria too were making similar outrageous claims. These however were all lies. The only interest these three (Greece, Serbia and Bulgaria) had in Macedonia was to steal Macedonia away from the Macedonian people and convince the world that it actually belonged to them on account that the people living in Macedonia were part of their respective nations.

    Having no clout and no voice in the matter the Macedonian people kept silent. The few that spoke up were drowned out by the many voices of our enemies. Any Macedonian who attempted to "do something" was as good as dead.

    Being indifferent to the situation, the outside world couldn´t care less and had no desire to find out the truth about what was really going on in Macedonia. The outside world had reason to not believe the Greeks, Serbians and Bulgarians on account of their bogus contradictory demographic statistics yet still, outside of some brows raised in the western capitals, no one took real measures to do anything. Even when France sent its own census monitors, the Greeks still managed to cheat them by having their priests tell the Macedonian people to say "ne" meaning "no" when they were asked "if they were Greek". So when people, most of whom did not speak Greek were asked in the Greek language if they were "Greek", they answered "ne" meaning "no" in Macedonian. "Ne" however means "yes" in Greek. So naturally they were counted as Greeks even though they said they weren´t!

    So in time the Greeks, Serbians and Bulgarians and to some extent the Albanians and Romanians became the spokespeople for the Macedonians, a practice which continues to this day!

    Greece, Serbia and Bulgaria´s wishes came true in 1912 when they invaded Macedonia without any opposition from the outside or from within.

    After driving out the Ottomans, ironically with help from the Macedonian people, their armies settled in for a long stay. In order to gain entry into Macedonia without opposition, the three lied to the Macedonian people for years, telling them that they would be sending their armies to Macedonia to liberate the Macedonian people from the Ottomans. However they neglected to tell them that once they drove the Ottomans out they intended to stay, occupy their country, par ion it and annex it for themselves. They also neglected to tell them that they would assimilate them and turn them into Greeks, Serbians and Bulgarians whether they liked it or not.

    Again their wishes came true after the three par ioned and annexed Macedonia in 1913 with Great Power approval sanctioned by the signing of the 1913 Treaty of Bucharest.

    From that time onward, Macedonians were not allowed to call themselves Macedonians. Those annexed by Greece became instant Greeks. Those refusing to call themselves Greeks were exiled or outright executed as an example to the others. The Serbians and Bulgarians did exactly the same.

    But over the years the Macedonian embers kept smoldering, buried deep down in the ashes invisible to the naked eye, that is, until one day a spark flew out and restarted the Macedonian flame. Against all odds, after what happened to the Macedonian people over the years, in 1991 they declared their independence and formed a Macedonian state. With the break up of Yugoslavia, the part of Macedonia that was annexed by Serbia in 1913 finally became an independent state. The Macedonians, unlike the other people in Yugoslavia, liberated themselves and declared their independence peacefully and without bloodshed. Some called it a miracle, but not those who were guilty of wrong doing like the Greeks and Bulgarians and their Western European patrons. They were quick to condemn the Macedonian people as frauds, the very same act of which they themselves are guilty.

    Greece, the very country which had illegally and by act of war annexed 51% of Macedonia in 1913, as confirmed by the 1913 Treaty of Bucharest, was the first to not only protest Macedonia´s independence but, after trying to bury the name "Macedonian" out of existence for a century, protested its use by this independent country, claiming that the name was Greek!

    In addition to having illegally expropriated Macedonian lands and having committed genocide against the Macedonian people over the years in 1991, Greece also became an iden y thief by outrageously claiming that the Macedonian people could not call their country Macedonia because that name is Greek!

    Now in addition to having their country taken away from them for a century, being exiled, forcibly assimilated and abused, Macedonians are again finding themselves the victims of the same perpetrators, this time the victims of iden y theft!

    If a person is born in Macedonia, is a descendent of many generations of Macedonians, speaks the Macedonian language, practices the Macedonian culture and traditions, has been called Macedonian and feels like a Macedonian, then one would deduce that they are Macedonian and their country is Macedonia! But not the Greeks! The Greeks now say that the name Macedonia is Greek and that they are the only Macedonians and therefore "these people" should not be allowed to call their country Macedonia! But that´s not all; Greeks also demand that "these people" not call themselves Macedonians and their language Macedonian! In other words, Greece, the iden y thief, will not tolerate the real Macedonians calling their country "Macedonia" and their iden y and language "Macedonian"!

    Over the centuries the Macedonian people lost their country, many were exiled, experienced genocide, experienced forced assimilation and countless other atrocities at the hands of the Greeks, Serbians and Bulgarians and on top of that they now have to endure the pain of having their iden y stolen. They now have to justify their existence every time they dare call themselves Macedonians. And how does the world react to all this? It is telling the Macedonians to change their name and give in to the demands of their iden y thieves!



    Ironically, despite what has happened to the Macedonian people over the years, most people in the world support the Greek side, the criminal side, which is not only sad but purely pathetic!

    I however don´t blame the world for not believing the Macedonian side. How could the world believe the Macedonian side when these criminals, for a century now, have been the unopposed voices speaking for the Macedonian people and claiming that Macedonians don´t exist and that the Macedonians of today are some kind of ovian Frankenstein creation! God only knows how far these criminals and iden y thieves will go to cover their tracks!

    Now imagine how the Macedonian people must feel, having been robbed of everything they value, their lands, their names, their history, their culture, their heritage and on top of that, their iden y. They can´t call their country Macedonia, they can´t call their ethnic iden y Macedonian and they can´t call their language Macedonian, all because of these iden y thieves.

    How can the Macedonians survive when Greece, the real iden y thief, is spending every ounce of its energy to paint itself as the victim of a "Macedonian" plot designed to steal their Macedonia from them? The very same Macedonia which they themselves stole from the Macedonian people in 1912, 1913!

    Despite the fact that today´s modern Greeks are not who they purport to be and ethnically they are not much different than the rest of the people living in the Balkans, they maintain that they have exclusive and inherent rights not only to the name "Macedonia" but also to Macedonian lands and the Macedonian heritage.

    Despite the fact that both Macedonia and Greece have been borderless since Philip II´s time (338 BC up until 1913 when the modern artificially imposed border was erected after Macedonia´s par ion) and despite the fact that the entire region including Macedonia and Greece, over the last two millenniums has been overrun by the same conquerors and settlers, Greece maintains that it is populated by "pure Greeks" (98% pure Greeks and 2% Muslim Greeks) and Macedonia is populated by "Slavs", whatever that means!

    We all know how the borders that par ioned Macedonia in 1912 and 1913 were drawn and we all know that Greece willingly signed the 1913 Treaty of Bucharest giving half of Macedonia to its partners and worst enemies. Yet today Macedonia is Greek! How can that be? According to the Greeks "No explanation is required!"

    I think the problem here is not whether Macedonians exist or not or whether Macedonians have the right to call their country Macedonia and their iden y and language Macedonian. The problem here is that every time we say the word "Greece" and "Greeks" we give legitimacy and credence to a bunch of pirates and iden y thieves who do not deserve the attention they get.

    By writing, talking and "negotiating" with them we legitimize their theft and false claims! The Greeks are no different than any of their immediate neighbours because whatever happened to their neighbours over the years has also happened to them.

    So if Macedonians don´t exist, then "Greeks" don´t exist! If Macedonians can´t call their country Macedonia the Greeks do not have the privilege of calling their artificially created country Greece or as or whatever it is they call it! If the Macedonians can´t call their ethnic iden y Macedonian then Greeks do not have the privilege of calling their artificially created iden y Greek or ene or whatever it is they call themselves! If the Macedonians can´t call their mother tongue Macedonian then the Greeks have no right to call their artificially imposed language Greek or enic or whatever it is they call it! If the Greeks like to call the Macedonian peoples´ country "Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia" (FYROM) then the Greeks should not mind if the Macedonian people call their country "Former Ottoman Republic of Greece" (FOROG). If Greece insists that the rest of the world call Macedonia FYROM then Greece should not mind if Macedonia insists that the world call Greece FOROG.

    If Greece was not guilty of piracy and iden y theft, Greece would not care what Macedonia calls itself. But obviously its fear of being discovered has made it act irrationally!

    So once again, if a nation of people is born in Macedonia of Macedonian parents, grandparents, great grandparents, etc., stretching back countless generations, speaks the Macedonian language and feels Macedonian, then what else could it be other than Macedonian?

    Many thanks to Dedo Kire for giving me the idea for this article.

    Dedo Kire wrote:

    I speak a little French and can sing a few songs but I am not French nor does France make me one.

    I speak a little Spanish and can sing some Spanish songs but I am not Spanish nor does Spain make me one.

    I speak a smattering of Portuguese, Italian, German but none of the countries try to make me one of them.

    I speak English rather well but England doesn´t call me or regard me as an Englishman.

    I speak a few words of Greek and sing one or two songs and Greece tries to lie to the world that I am Greek.

    I speak Macedonian, my mother tongue, and I choose to call myself ethnically Macedonian but Greece denies that no such language exists even though I speak it as millions do. Some universities teach it too.

    Greece tells the world I speak a barbarian bas language as much as to try and make me a Barbarian Bas .

    Greece tries to convince the world that they are the true and only ´Macedonians´ claiming a monopoly on the name. With audacity, they now claim everything associated with that name throughout history. Over the past 90 years Greece has practiced with increasing vigor IDEN Y THEFT and are still doing it. Their ACTIONS speak louder than words. Look, in 1923 they changed every village name, every river, every mountain from a Macedonian name to a Greek Name. Then they FORCED every Macedonian in Northern Greece to change their Macedonian name into a Greek name. The Greek Orthodox Church collaborated refusing to baptize children with a name other than Greek, refused to marry anyone or bury anyone with a Macedonian name. No one could go to any school or be employed unless they used a Greek name. They went so far as to punish anyone speaking the Macedonian language. Everyone who learns about this responds the same way, "Unbelievable", they say. Yet, it is true. It is and was nothing less than CULTURAL GENOCIDE.

    With the proclaiming the ideas of Human Rights imbedded in the Charter of the United Nations it is now about time to STOP THIS CULTURAL GENOCIDE.

    Now is the time to STOP THE IDEN Y THEFT being practiced by Greece against the Republic of Macedonia AND Macedonians around the world.

    Let us gather together, take council, AND STOP THE THIEF WHO IS STEALING.

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    I have ask many times please to stop the racism against Greeks and anything relates to Greece. I have ask many times. Kori has said here no racism is allowed here and this includes the racism against Greek people.

    You know who you are. STOP the racist posts against Greeks and the racist comments against Greece.
    Gotta go to the IMF for your bailout son.

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