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  1. 05-10-2005 #51
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    cept you are the one who thinks beating up on weak ass teams means something in the playoffs. i never said that.

    your team is going down, provided they can get to the next round to begin with
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Body
    For such a juggernaut, the Suns are strangely monolilthic and inflexible. They do the same thing over and over in order to win: score in the same ways, Stoudamire down low, Nash breaking down the defense and kicking out, lots of three pointers. That's all there is to it. Do you really think they could make adjustments to a team that's beating them?

    I wouldn't say they're one-trick, but they're pretty much the WYSIWYG team. The Spurs, on the other hand, can win with offense, defense, can run, can slow it down, can post-up, can bomb away, can win on penetrations. A much more versatile team.
    They can and have made some adjustments but if the plan is working why would they make any changes? The reason the Suns are effective is because they adjust on the fly and take what teams are giving them. They don't really have many plays or sets they just run thier stuff. If teams double and sag inside they kick it out. If they cover the outside they go inside.

    Nobody has stopped them yet. If the Spurs shut them down then kudos to them but I am going to have to see it to believe it.

    I think it would be a very compe ive series.
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    Quote Originally Posted by violentkitten
    cept you are the one who thinks beating up on weak ass teams means something in the playoffs. i never said that.

    your team is going down, provided they can get to the next round to begin with
    Better than losing to weak ass teams in the playoffs.
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  4. 05-10-2005 #54
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    what series have the spurs lost? man champions have lost to low seeds before that is nothing new. well except to you perhaps since the suns have never been...a champion. you telling us what it takes to win a championship is preposterous. run along now.
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    Start Beno (who allways played good against Suns) and then kill Nash with fresh Tony!
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  6. 05-10-2005 #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by IceColdBrewski
    Big difference between regular season and post-season.

    Yes, and if you had ever watched playoff basketball before, you would know that defense is what wins games.

    Also, how many players on Phx have won a conference finals game before? 1?
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  7. 05-10-2005 #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by IceColdBrewski
    Up until now, part of me still wanted to believe that the Spurs would be able to get past the Suns even though they would hold homecourt advantage when/if they met in the WC Finals. But after watching them clobber the Griz and manhandle a very game Mavs team tonight, I'm convinced that we're going to need a lot of luck if we hope to make it to the Finals. Not only did they beat the Mavs handily, but they made it look easy.




    You are mistaken.

    Every home team blew out the road team in game 1, or did you not see the other games?

    Common denominator? The road teams were either injured or weary from a tough series that just ended 2 days prior.

    SA can easily beat Phoenix....even though I say Dallas will be our opponent.
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  8. 05-10-2005 #58
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    What IceColdTakeski fails to realize is the Spurs play much better as the hunter than the hunted.

    I have no problem with Phoenix being "the team to beat."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan
    What IceColdTakeski fails to realize is the Spurs play much better as the hunter than the hunted.

    I have no problem with Phoenix being "the team to beat."

    I disagree, the 2 championships the Spurs have won were when they were the consensus favorites to win it all, just as they are this year.

    Look at Vegas' odds, if you dod not believe me.
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    IceCold must be RayRay's sister. "Oh no, those Suns are just too tough. Oh no, it's going to take a miracle for the Spurs to win."
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    Jim, both of those years the Lakers were *the team* to beat.

    Maybe not in Vegas, but in the media perception. And we all know the media drive the feel of who's the favorite and who's the dog.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan
    Jim, both of those years the Lakers were *the team* to beat.

    Maybe not in Vegas, but in the media perception. And we all know the media drive the feel of who's the favorite and who's the dog.

    We were the team to beat by most of the media in those 2 years, we had #1 seed...David Dupree picked SA to win it all in 99 and 03, and he and Barkley piked SA in 03 and this yr, so that is all that counts.
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    IceColdBrewski is the Ray Allen of Spurs fans. Go take a Midol.

    Look, Phoenix isn't going to be easy, assuming the Sonics don't start producing testosterone in the near future and start making this current series compe ive. They are a tough team to stop from scoring. If one player hesitates getting back in transition, it's two points in each instance for the Suns almost automatically. The Spurs don't have much of an answer for Amare Stoudemire. They pretty much have to let him get his in order to prevent the Suns from raining threes all over the place.

    But, then again, the Spurs have shown over and over again they can win at any pace. Can Phoenix win a grind-it-out game? Very few of their key guys have had to execute under the pressure of a fourth quarter in a close playoff game deep in the postseason. The Spurs know they can do that. The Suns hope they can.

    And I don't see any answer in that Phoenix lineup for Duncan, Parker, or Ginobili. Ordinarily, you'd figure the Suns' great offense cancels out the Spurs' great defense, as their mediocre defense does to the Spurs' mediocre offense. But they match up especially poorly to the Spurs' top weapons.
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  14. 05-10-2005 #64
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    I don't see much chance of the Suns winning a series against us, even with HCA. Their offense may be potent but their defense is just abysmal. Couple that with a weak bench and a lack of playoff experience and I think it's too much to overcome.

    The Spurs aren't scared of them in the least and have lots of experience in thwarting transition teams (Nets '03, Nuggets '05). The Suns live off the break and if they're forced into playing half-court, they won't have what it takes against the Spurs defense.

    Don't get me wrong, the Suns are a very strong team and offensively they can steamroll most teams in the league, but not teams like the Spurs can that nullify the fast break and play great defense.

    Spurs in 6.
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    I'm sure not jumping but the Suns present some tough matchups for us as well...

    I think the Spurs can stop the fast break just like they stopped Denvers...break three guys as soon as the shot goes in the air...the problem with that is that Phoenix is a better rebounding team with Amare/Marion/Johnson than Denver was and this tactic plays into one of their strengths...and if Stoudamire gets the ball in the paint on an offensive rebound it is an automatic flush or Spurs foul...

    Stoudemire developing a reliable perimeter jump shot also presents some new defensive problems for the Spurs...I assume Spurs will cover him with Rasho or Nazr and they have to honor the threat...which leaves Tim basically alone when Marion/Johnson cut baseline...fouls will be key in this series on both sides...

    How Phoenix reacts when the Spurs shut down the fast break will be the key to this series...we are about to see if D'Antoni really IS the coach of the year...if they have an answer for the Spurs half court defense Spurs are gonna have to bring their A+ game offensively for a full 48 minutes every game to win without home court...
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    Quote Originally Posted by IceColdBrewski
    Up until now, part of me still wanted to believe that the Spurs would be able to get past the Suns even though they would hold homecourt advantage when/if they met in the WC Finals. But after watching them clobber the Griz and manhandle a very game Mavs team tonight, I'm convinced that we're going to need a lot of luck if we hope to make it to the Finals. Not only did they beat the Mavs handily, but they made it look easy.

    You're forgetting one thing, DEFENSE !

    nuff said
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    Hey, how about how nice San Antonio has looked!? The Grizzlies and a fatigued Mavericks team? Give me a break. Wait until the Spurs put the defensive clamps on them and on offense ram the TMT (Tim Manu Tony) down their throats. Spurs would dismantle the Phoenix Train in six or so.
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    How quickly it is forgotten that the only time the Suns won was when Tim Duncan was off the floor, but all of a sudden they become the team to beat.

    Well, I personally could care less which team is labeled the team to beat. The Spurs have beat this team in the past, and can do so easily. Yes, they have to play well, but that was pretty much a given.
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    I think we are forgetting about Dallas a little too early.

    They were worn out mentally and physically in that Houston series...they were ripe for a blowout.

    I expect to see them put up a great effort in the next 3 games.
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    Jim, I have to agree. I think Dallas will end up giving Phx all they can handle. Its going seven, but I think Phx will pull it out then get defeated solidly by the Spurs.
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    Yes, it will go 7 games.

    Dallas is a great road team, Phoenix is mediocre home team, just as was Houston...Dallas will win at least 1 in Phoenix, bank on it.
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    _allas found a D, unfortunately for them it was Dumb. Avery came out with a gameplan, establish the low post, feed it to the big man. Problem is the big man was Dampier. Avery must have believed DAmp wihen he announced that he was the best center in the West. Sorry Marky, try again next off season.

    Okay so plan A's not working thinks Avery to himself. Maybe a plan B. "Hey I gots a good idea" says Avery, "lets jack up some outside shots. Whooaa. Oh man them Suns are running dose misses right back at us and stuffin dem down ours troats. Penetrators to da basket? Oh they got poor defense, particuly interior defense. Well Nellie nevah told me nuthin about dat po defense." Maybe we try dat next game.

    Pops no Avery and the Spurs are no Dullass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by picnroll
    _allas found a D, unfortunately for them it was Dumb. Avery came out with a gameplan, establish the low post, feed it to the big man. Problem is the big man was Dampier. Avery must have believed DAmp wihen he announced that he was the best center in the West. Sorry Marky, try again next off season.

    Okay so plan A's not working thinks Avery to himself. Maybe a plan B. "Hey I gots a good idea" says Avery, "lets jack up some outside shots. Whooaa. Oh man them Suns are running dose misses right back at us and stuffin dem down ours troats. Penetrators to da basket? Oh they got poor defense, particuly interior defense. Well Nellie nevah told me nuthin about dat po defense." Maybe we try dat next game.

    Pops no Avery and the Spurs are no Dullass.


    no ...playing the Suns pace on that game was crazy...
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  24. 05-10-2005 #74
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    It's quite simple. With the way Dirk Nowitzki is playing, Dallas is a team whose best players are Jason Terry and Jerry Stackhouse. Does that sound like a few Eastern Conference Lottery teams from the past few years to anyone else?

    If Dirk Nowitzki would simply play like a top 10 player, maybe even a top 20 player, this series would be very compe ive.
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    How can a team that allows the Grizzlies to score 102 points a game be considered the team to beat?
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