What?Pardon me, I guess you're ass don't smell.
What you wrote I have read 13,000 + times.
Get over yourself!
If Duncan didn't go down, the Nazr trade wouldn't have mattered b/c he wouldn't have been getting many minutes to hurt or help us. Horry would've been getting the majority of bigman minutes off the bench. Nazr would've been getting the scraps at best.
But when Tim Duncan went down, Nazr had to play before he was really ready to contribute. There is no question that Malik Rose would've been more helpful than Nazr during that stretch. Whether having Malik Rose on the roster instead of Nazr would've helped us secure homecourt advantage over the Suns can be debated but never proven, either way. But there is no question, in my mind, that Malik Rose would done more to improve our chances to secure homecourt over the Suns than a Nazr Mohammad learning the system.
We went 8-4 without Duncan. Unless you think we would have gone 11-1 with Malik in that same span, the point is moot.
It's not like they went 0-10 with Duncan outThey also had Manu out.
Teams have been shooting easily over Malik for a year and a half prior to the trade, and also snatching rebounds from over his head. And he averages 1/5 the blocks per game that Nazr does.
It cracks me up than anyone thinks sliding a 6'4" guy over to the center position would somehow have slowed down the offense of other teams, or deter them from driving in the lane, but such is the myth of Malik Rose.
Im still wondering when Malik will get inducted into the NBA hof.
^ haha.
i truly think nazr was the missing piece to our puzzle. i liked malik .. but i like our chances to win the le with nazr. sorry, malik.
Sorry man, but your idea that Malik would have helped us win HCA is impossible to prove. Not only that but the argument is very weak. How would Malik have made the difference? He didn't even make the difference on a regular basis when TD was playing next to him! There were other injures and games missed by other players during that same stretch.
I'm positive we got the better end of that trade. We will be saying the same things about NY next year that we have been saying this year. And you can look for improved numbers from Nazr next year.
The trade was a huge success for the Spurs, and the Knicks love Malik.
Win-win.
Nazr is huge and I hope he stays with the Spurs. Also in one game , after a foul he had the ball and for some reason just dunked it really hard and that had me laughing my ass off. Classic!
05 playoffs when playing 30+ min
14.0 ppg 12.5 rpg
Malik would have had 20 and 1505 playoffs when playing 30+ min
14.0 ppg 12.5 rpg
Well I was in NY last week and wore my Spurs hat everywhere and you wouldnt believe how many people came up to me and said they wanted to take credit for us winning the le this year telling me that we STOLE Nazr from them and getting Malik is probably the worst thing they have done. They all say the same thing, "Malik gives great effort, but hes not a difference maker."
How happy do you think Nazr is now after spending the last 6 years in Atlanta and New York?
First off, you must have missed the part of my post where I said..........
Secondly, I've always maintained that the timing of the trade hurt our chances of gaining homecourt advantage over the Suns. I never said that the trade was the sole reason we lost homecourt advantage to the Suns. I base my opinion on the fact that despite our 8-4 record with Timmy out of the lineup (based on your numbers, I haven't checked them but I'm assuming you're correct), we did it in spite of Nazr's play, not b/c of it. Nazr stunk it up out there for the majority of time he was playing in Tim's absence. Now, if you're telling me that Malik Rose wouldn't have done better than the piss poor job Nazr was doing at the time and that this improvement wouldn't have helped our chances of gaining homecourt, then you're clueless. I feel this is a pretty strong argument. Feel free to disagree with my opinion if you wish, but don't expect me to believe that it's not a strong argument b/c it is.Whether having Malik Rose on the roster instead of Nazr would've helped us secure homecourt advantage over the Suns can be debated but never proven, either way.
If you believe that, then you're just another idiot with an opinion. There's no question that TD's injury played a major role in our losing streak. But what you fail to mention is that Nazr was failing to contribute in Tim's absence rather than picking up the slack and helping us win games. , Sean Marks was even taking his minutes. Again, I'm not bagging on Nazr, I wouldn't have expected much more than just getting some rebounds and putbacks every now and then. But he wasn't even giving us that at the time and that's why I was upset.
There's no question that we got the better of the trade. , Nazr getting a chance to see the floor improves the trade for what we were paying Malik. At least now we have a live body playing whose capable of hitting the boards as opposed to a live body whose capable of hitting the boards and sitting on the bench.
Again, I give mad props to Nazr for producing in the playoffs. He's doing much more than I thought he would this year. I didn't think he'd be producing until next year if at all. That's what pissed me off about the trade. I'm happy that it's working out.
Who gives a about home court vs. Phoenix? Damn.
If we can't beat Phoenix 4 out of 7 times, no matter where we play, we don't deserve to win it.
just shows the Genius we got as coach and GM
i think the spurs are proving that they can win on who ever court it is we will beat phoenix.
nazr for 33333333
The whole home court thing just cracks me up more than anything. It's the only thing left for the Rose Colored Glasses Society to cling to as to why that trade sucked.
Big up Nazr spurs fans love you.
AHF, it's the only reason why the RCGS was upset about the trade. If you could get your head out of your ass long enough, you might notice that. Everybody is happy that Nazr is producing. Don't go around acting like homecourt advantage doesn't mean b/c it does. It makes things a whole lot easier than it has to be.
I guess this is your way of saying that I have a point.
agreed.just shows the Genius we got as coach and GM
The RCGS was saying everything from Nazr doesn't get our defense to he can't shoot FTs were reasons Malik was better. Bad hands, no jumper, etc.
Like I said, if we can't win at least one game on another team's floor with a spot in the Finals on the line, we don't deserve it.
And for the umpteenth time, we didn't lose home court because of the trade. That's stupid. We lost home court because Manu Ginobili and Tim Duncan were both injured.
Well, those are all valid reasons. IN FACT, they are still valid reasons. Nazr STILL isn't a good free throw shooter, he STILL doesn't have a jumper, he DOES have butter hands and he STILL has a lot of lapses on defense. But the man can clean up the junk. Boy, can he clean up the junk. And let me tell you, I'm sure happy he's good at cleaning up the junk b/c we've need that for a while. , if Nazr had been doing this from the getgo, you wouldn't have heard a peep from the Rose lovers.
Ah, but that's assuming you win all your home games. More times than not, you need to win two road games if you want to win a series without homecourt advantange. Especially, if you don't win one of the first two games on the road. There is no fun in having to win 4 of the next 5 games of a series after dropping the first two on the road.
For the umpteenth time, I never said we lost homecourt advantage b/c of the trade. But I did say that the trade didn't help us in gaining homecourt advantage. It was a risk that management took to possibly make the team better long-term by either having Nazr pan out or adding flexibility in a few years to add somebody who might. The trade wasn't intended to make the Spurs better for the playoffs. If it happened, it happened. It would've been icing on the cake. But if Rasho and TD didn't go down, we'd likely have TD and Rasho starting with Horry being the first big man off the bench. And Nazr would've been occupying Rasho's current role. That's right, RIDING THE PINE.
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