Rush: The ocean will clean itself.

[word]

50,000 barrels (some estimate 70,000) a day at 29 days so far. That's 1,450,000 barrels.

Your examples, in barrels:

30,000+
61,905+
100,000+
333,000+
95,238=
Total:
620,143 barrels

Is there any comparison?

Ixtoc 1 was 3.33333333 million barrels

140,000,000 gallons. Barrel of oil is 42 gallons.

At the low estimate of 1000/bpd it would take nearly 10 years for this well to reach that. At the bizarre high of 70,000 ( the biggest producing wells in Saudi Arabia produce between 20-30 thousand ) it would take 50 days.

Reasonable estimate could be extrapolated from BP's Thunder Horse project nearby. 250,000/bpd using 36 wells. Roughly 7000/bpd per well. About 17 months to reach the same volume as the Pemex spill.

[word]

And if we've discovered a field/well that produces 50-70 thousand barrels a day, we should be celebrating.

We haven't. If we've found one that's producing 20,000/bpd we should be pretty darn happy about that. I worked in the oil fields, for 10 years, and out in the gulf, in the Mississippi canyon where this well is, on a drillship, owned by Transocean before they were Trans Ocean. They were Sonat before that, the Offshore Company before that.

Now, I haven't worked in that field since 1979. I spent all my money doing that paying for flight school to follow my dream and I was a peon roughneck during that time, but I know something about the oil bidness. My old man, his old man, my moms dad, his dad, his dad...all in the oil biz. I still get the checks from their work via royalty.

I have much respect for those in the oil business, as I do coal miners and the like. People who 'the public' tends to hate. A public who has never knocked out a hard or dangerous day of labor in their lives, much less years, so pukes can drive their cars to protests and live in air conditioned homes and work in air conditioned office buildings..etc..etc.

If you hate big oil so much, quit using their ing product.

[ChumpDumper]

And if we've discovered a field/well that produces 50-70 thousand barrels a day, we should be celebrating.

Why?

How much does that lower the price of gas at the pump?

[MannyIsGod]

If big oil hates being hated so much they should stop taking our money.

/word

[Wild Cobra]

If big oil hates being hated so much they should stop taking our money.

/word

You have that backwards.

People who hate Big Oil should stop buying fuel.

[word]

If big oil hates being hated so much they should stop taking our money.

/word

They should give you their product ? I suppose you are for free food and clothing as well. I assume you have a job. Perhaps you or your company, I can't imagine someone who thinks as you HAS their own company, but maybe you should start by walking in and telling your boss you should start giving away your product or services. Do that, then we'll talk.

[EmptyMan]

Just ing admit the oil spill is a terrible thing and it will be OK. Jesus.

lol this.

[MannyIsGod]

They should give you their product ? I suppose you are for free food and clothing as well. I assume you have a job. Perhaps you or your company, I can't imagine someone who thinks as you HAS their own company, but maybe you should start by walking in and telling your boss you should start giving away your product or services. Do that, then we'll talk.

This is almost funnier than your post in the special election thread.

[word]

ahh...I don't watch fox or cnn.... or much TV...so what...I don't eat and breath politics...I made a mistake. I didn't realize there was a happy ending speshur' erection going on....I thought it was all primaries.

One thing, has nothing to do with the other. I make mistakes sometimes. So shoot me. Still doesn't change the fact you hate a product you can't get by without or the HUGE oil spill isn't the hugest EVER. Or that you're an obsessed cat with no life and over 30,000 posts. I've been here 7 years, and don't have 2000. You sir, are a nutter.

[Yonivore]

If big oil hates being hated so much they should stop taking our money.

/word

I don't think Big Oil cares what you think but, it's kind of funny to hear you blame your buying their product on them.

[PublicOption]

can someone tell me why he is so adamant about not worrying about the effect this spill will have on the environment?

[MannyIsGod]

I don't think Big Oil cares what you think but, it's kind of funny to hear you blame your buying their product on them.

Wow - you're all pretty bad at this aren't you?

[word]

can someone tell me why he is so adamant about not worrying about the effect this spill will have on the environment?

Because oil isn't plutonium ?

What is the half life of oil ....

hmmmm.....?

pssst..carbon units...listen up...

Oil and the use of, is the greatest mineral mankind has ever mined behind coal...it has delivered our dreams and given us more things than the general nutball public could even begin to grasp or admit.

Got it ?

YOU are out fetching wood and coal..burning rocks....without it.

Treehuggers.....go yourselves. You couldn't even cook your own food with your philosophy.

Matter of fact you wouldn't grow food.

Vegetarians that won't cut down trees. What do you think a damn tree is ? A plant, that you harvest. Just like corn and broccoli and a bunch of other stuff that comes out of the ground.

EVERYTHING man produces that makes our life worth living and possible comes from the earth.

If you don't mine it or grow it or feed it, you are just changing it's form to make it useful. Adding value. Capitalism.

What do you morons think the VAT is all about ?



OIL....is no different.

[ChumpDumper]

[Drachen]

Word, I will say this you are saying that it is bizarrely high to estimate 70k because the biggest wells in Saudi Arabia produce 20-30k. I think a reason for the disparity is that you are talking about production, whereas this is uncontrolled expulsion. Where I am going with this is perhaps (for reasons admittedly unknown to me), they regulate the pressure in the production phase which is currently not happening. Like if you open your water spigot only halfway because you don't want to flood your begonias (sp?).

[rjv]

Because oil isn't plutonium ?

What is the half life of oil ....

hmmmm.....?

pssst..carbon units...listen up...

Oil and the use of, is the greatest mineral mankind has ever mined behind coal...it has delivered our dreams and given us more things than the general nutball public could even begin to grasp or admit.

Got it ?

YOU are out fetching wood and coal..burning rocks....without it.

Treehuggers.....go yourselves. You couldn't even cook your own food with your philosophy.

Matter of fact you wouldn't grow food.

Vegetarians that won't cut down trees. What do you think a damn tree is ? A plant, that you harvest. Just like corn and broccoli and a bunch of other stuff that comes out of the ground.

EVERYTHING man produces that makes our life worth living and possible comes from the earth.

If you don't mine it or grow it or feed it, you are just changing it's form to make it useful. Adding value. Capitalism.

What do you morons think the VAT is all about ?



OIL....is no different.

so besides the working class hero speech, and the generous offerings of argument of abuse and cir stance fallacies, and then the ample suppy of tautologies, what is so new about your perspective? that there are resources in this world that we can not survive without? this is not limited to oil. and this does not permit any industry that supplies these resources to exist with a carte blanche. industries can not operate with so much autonomy that they do not have to submit to regulations, ethics or any compliance to industrial, governmental and societal standards.

and capitalism? is this some static system or paradigm that never shifts according to production, consumer dynamics or even the resource itself?

and i love this juxtaposition:

Treehuggers.....go yourselves. You couldn't even cook your own food with your philosophy.

Matter of fact you wouldn't grow food.

Vegetarians that won't cut down trees. What do you think a damn tree is ? A plant, that you harvest. Just like corn and broccoli and a bunch of other stuff that comes out of the ground.

EVERYTHING man produces that makes our life worth living and possible comes from the earth.

with one sentence you acknowledge the value of the earth but in the preceding sentences you spat off the mentality that has reduced the rain forest of this planet to what it is today. species of plants, animals and microorganisms are of no consequence apparently in the gulf or anywhere else there are resources meant to be "harvested".

nice machiavellian ethics.

[RandomGuy]

[I hate the environmantal movement, and see no value in preserving the environment]

ooookaaaay.

We have evidence that it is certain that we are in the final stages of oil being economically viable as an energy source. Not "very likely", not "possible", but mathmatically certain.

We can delay this, but it is as inevitable as the sun setting.

This is a trend that will take place over the next 20-60 by our best estimates.

The costs of switching to more renewable "green" sources that don't suffer from depletion, is lower now than it will ever be.

A lot of smart money has started to realize this and has started to flow into solar/wind/etc research and companies.

Capitalism itself will leave oil behind within your lifetime. All the knee-jerk, with an emphasis on jerk, anti-environmentalism won't change that.

Then what will you say about oil?