Turkey has announced they will send another flotilla to Gaza escorted by Turk Navy

[MannyIsGod]

I wonder if the US will send a message to Israel that they can't just do whatever they want. They should, and the message should be clear. This is horrible PR.

LOL The US has sent the opposite message for decades. That isn't about to change over a few more dead people.

[Phenomanul]

So let me get this straight... the other 5 boats in that flotilla passed on through without a problem... but the 6th boat became a problem, violence broke out and people died. What did the soldiers find on that 6th boat that wasn't a problem on the other ones? Why did an otherwise peaceful checkup turn sour on that last boat?

Israel was stupid for doing this over international waters... but had they waited, they had every right to check that known terrorist groups were not being supplied by these ships...

[ElNono]

So let me get this straight... the other 5 boats in that flotilla passed on through without a problem... but the 6th boat became a problem, violence broke out and people died. What did the soldiers find on that 6th boat that wasn't a problem on the other ones? Why did an otherwise peaceful checkup turn sour on that last boat?

According to what I read, Israel said they could use nets to disable the other 5 smaller boats, but the 6th boat was too big and the nets wouldn't work.

And no, the other 5 boats were not checked or passed through. All 6 boats were commandeered by the Israeli army.

[spursncowboys]

you should have gone and inspected it yourself, if it's that safe.

Sean Penn

[DarrinS]

According to what I read, Israel said they could use nets to disable the other 5 smaller boats, but the 6th boat was too big and the nets wouldn't work.

And no, the other 5 boats were not checked or passed through. All 6 boats were commandeered by the Israeli army.

But, there wasn't any violence on the other vessels.

Also read that the ship was owned by an orgization with terrorist ties.

Bottom line, the Israelis just want to check cargo that is headed to Ghaza. If this ship has complied with repeated requests, none of this would be news.

[DarrinS]

What did the soldiers find on that 6th boat that wasn't a problem on the other ones?

Iron rods and knives.

[spursncowboys]

Most of the world HAS been against them for quite some time. They just happen to have one of a lobby here in the United States.

I doubt the lobby is why the avg american agrees with israel's stance on terrorism and votes in accordance with that.

[spursncowboys]

So let me get this straight... the other 5 boats in that flotilla passed on through without a problem... but the 6th boat became a problem, violence broke out and people died. What did the soldiers find on that 6th boat that wasn't a problem on the other ones? Why did an otherwise peaceful checkup turn sour on that last boat?

Israel was stupid for doing this over international waters... but had they waited, they had every right to check that known terrorist groups were not being supplied by these ships...

the commandos were attacked - requested to use deadly force to defend themselves and it was granted. did you see the video? any american agency wo
uld have done the same thing.

[ElNono]

But, there wasn't any violence on the other vessels.

Correct.

Also read that the ship was owned by an orgization with terrorist ties.

Or so claims Israel. You could also claim that same organization was behind humanitarian relief efforts in Haiti, and you would be correct too.

Bottom line, the Israelis just want to check cargo that is headed to Ghaza. If this ship has complied with repeated requests, none of this would be news.

Bottom line, Israel had a right to request inspection of the boats in international waters. but they didn't do that.

[ElNono]

I doubt the lobby is why the avg american agrees with israel's stance on terrorism and votes in accordance with that.

Do you have figures on that? Also, are you equating Israel stance on terrorism with israel stance on Palestine? They're two different things.

[Shastafarian]

Why did they need to storm the boat with commandos just to inspect it?

Why did the activists need to attempt to break a blockade instead of attempting to bring aid to Gaza legally?

I'm sure after years of constant warfare, Israel uses commandos because they'd rather be safe than sorry. Looks like they were right. Unless you can say those "peaceful" activists would have just sat there like good boys and girls if inspectors had been sent aboard.

who boarded whose ship you piece of nutsack?

Good good, just build a shrine in front of your house and claim israel your god and be done with it.

[Wild Cobra]

The world is waiting for the response from Washington, how will President Obama react to the provocation from America's closest ally.-CNN-IBN

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/turkey-th.../116743-2.html

Anyone who seeks the truth of the matter will realize the soldiers were protecting themselves. Among the weapons seized from the activists were handguns.

Israel did not provoke this. They were only enforcing.

[sook]

Anyone who seeks the truth of the matter will realize the soldiers were protecting themselves. Among the weapons seized from the activists were handguns.

Israel did not provoke this. They were only enforcing.

wth are you supposed to do when someone takes over yourboat in international waters?

[Wild Cobra]

I wonder if the US will send a message to Israel that they can't just do whatever they want. They should, and the message should be clear. This is horrible PR.

Maybe this socialist, terrorist loving administration will. The people will not support it, and move democrats even farther from power in the elections.

[Shastafarian]

wth are you supposed to do when someone takes over yourboat in international waters?

Obviously you should beat them with metal poles and chairs.

[Wild Cobra]

I don't think anyone could describe these people of being followers of MLK or Ghandi. But they were responding to a commando raid, they were acting in self defense. They didnt kill any soldiers and their weapons were ty and they were civilians going against one of the best militaries in the world. It's really messed up to hear people defend this . . You don't have the right to kill them because they resist having their ship commandered in international waters. Someone needs to remind these bags that they can't get away with anything they want.

Bull .

The first guns to be fired were likely the two handguns seized.

They had deadly weapons. Ever been his by a steel pole, or pipe?

them. They deserve what they got. Israel was only enforcing the blockade.

[ElNono]

Maybe this socialist, terrorist loving administration will. AIPAC will not support it, and move democrats even farther from power in the elections.

fify

[ElNono]

Bull .
The first guns to be fired were likely the two handguns seized.
They had deadly weapons. Ever been his by a steel pole, or pipe?
them. They deserve what they got. Israel was only enforcing the blockade.

Why were Israel commandos boarding a civilian ship in international waters in the first place?

[Wild Cobra]

The FBI cannot come into your house unless you give them permission to do so (or unless they have a search warrant). Otherwise they're breaking the law. Which is no different than what the commandos did. They had absolutely no right to board the civilian ship.
Your analogy fails also because the FBI is a law enforcement unit, and thus another subset of laws apply (including assault to a law enforcement person), which does not apply at all to the situation at sea.

Best inspect them farther out than wait. Would you rather they have no time to decide and blow the ships up?

The ships were asked to dock at a specific port to be inspected.

[Cry Havoc]

Is anyone else surprised that Turkey has a Navy?

Classic. Way to fit right into that "Americans are clueless about the rest of the world" mold.

[ElNono]

Best inspect them farther out than wait. Would you rather they have no time to decide and blow the ships up?

They can do that. They can request to inspect the ships in international waters.

The ships were asked to dock at a specific port to be inspected.

Well, Israel has no right to request that under international law.

Now, you would do well in reading up both of the threads here about this incident. There's plenty of links to the relevant laws that were at play, and I wouldn't want you to start talking out of your ass.

[Wild Cobra]

wth are you supposed to do when someone takes over yourboat in international waters?

Maybe they should respect the embargo.

Israel has so much trouble with their enemies getting weapons, and are doing what they think necessary to stop weapons transport.

They asked to inspect the ships. It wasn't allowed.

Are you now becoming a terrorist apologist?

[Wild Cobra]

fify

If you are going to change my words, don't use my name in the quote, .

[Wild Cobra]

Why were Israel commandos boarding a civilian ship in international waters in the first place?

If you don't know why, you shouldn't be taking a position.

[sook]

Maybe they should respect the embargo.

Israel has so much trouble with their enemies getting weapons, and are doing what they think necessary to stop weapons transport.

They asked to inspect the ships. It wasn't allowed.

Are you now becoming a terrorist apologist?

Who'se the one invoking terror? Answer that question yourself without taking it out of context and with respect to the current situation.