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    I don't get why you want to trade one of the best defensive C's in the league + one of the best prospects in the league for someone who gets hurt every 10-15 games.

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    Haywood is good hence you see the Heat trading a future AS player in Beasley. The #10 pick is an incentive for a weak draft class. You're more than likely to draft a Shelden Williams, Bryant Reeves, Samaki Walker type of player in this group anyway.
    Beasly is garbage. I wouldn't take him for free. A 3/4 tweener who plays no D, doesn't rebound, basically goes jack other than score - the only thing he'll ever be good for is putting up numbers in lottery teams.

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    We hold on to Drew. No question about it.
    I'd hold on to him just one more year.
    You see Roddy Beaubois, this is how the vast majority of Laker fans feel. He can makes a big difference on the floor.

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    I don't get why you want to trade one of the best defensive C's in the league + one of the best prospects in the league for someone who gets hurt every 10-15 games.
    I dont understand it either tbh.

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    I don't get why you want to trade one of the best defensive C's in the league + one of the best prospects in the league for someone who gets hurt every 10-15 games.
    I guess I value centers more than most. Whoever controls the paint usually wins IMO. He is injury prone, but he's only 22 yrs old and he's proven that he can be a very dominant center in the NBA. If an unproven and promising prospect is what it takes to upgrade to a dominant center, then I'd CONSIDER it. I honestly don't know if I'd do it. If it were on the table as an offer, I don't think any NBA exec would just laugh it off

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    Bynum hasn't proven as far as being a dominant center in the league. He's only shown flashes here and there but has been either "meh" or ty for 3 straight playoffs.

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    You see Roddy Beaubois, this is how the vast majority of Laker fans feel. He can makes a big difference on the floor.
    Badodor and Luva are two are the more rational lakerfans on this site tbh, even if they both troll a lot. Most lakerfans are just huge homers that think Bynum will be a HOF one day.


    Just out of curiosity, what is culbys view on Bynum?

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    I dont understand it either tbh.
    We can represent the trade in whatever light we want, but Bynum is 22 yrs old and he's shown that he's a force at the Center position. I'll say it again, whoever controls the paint usually wins the game. Trading an unproven yet promising young prospect for a dominant big for years to come is worth consideration.

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    I guess I value centers more than most. Whoever controls the paint usually wins IMO. He is injury prone, but he's only 22 yrs old and he's proven that he can be a very dominant center in the NBA. If an unproven and promising prospect is what it takes to upgrade to a dominant center, then I'd CONSIDER it. I honestly don't know if I'd do it. If it were on the table as an offer, I don't think any NBA exec would just laugh it off
    A stretch of 10 games in the regular season doesn't prove . All I know that for the last 3 years now, he's been injured every time when the REAL season comes around.

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    Bynum hasn't proven as far as being a dominant center in the league. He's only shown flashes here and there but has been either "meh" or ty for 3 straight playoffs.
    you replace Bynum with Haywood and the Lakers wouldn't be nearly as dominant, guaranteed

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    Sup Mavs version of 21_Blessings

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    you replace Bynum with Haywood and the Lakers wouldn't be nearly as dominant, guaranteed
    Replace him with Haywood and give them Beaubois. Yes they would. You act like Haywood is a scrub defensively. He isn't. He controls the paint defensively adequately when he wants to, he just is limited offensively.

    Beaubois would give Lakers shooting + slashing which are two of their mediocre areas.

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    A stretch of 10 games in the regular season doesn't prove . All I know that for the last 3 years now, he's been injured every time when the REAL season comes around.

    Lakers fans are spoiled when it comes to big men. Shaq, Gasol, Bynum... Odom (kind of) in this decade alone. If you were to have Haywood instead of Bynum, you wouldn't be nearly as dominant. I'd bet anything on it. Most every team would LOVE to get their hands on Bynum.

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    damn... 21 may have found his match as far as Bynum guzzling...

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    Replace him with Haywood and give them Beaubois. Yes they would. You act like Haywood is a scrub defensively. He isn't. He controls the paint defensively adequately when he wants to, he just is limited offensively.

    Beaubois would give Lakers shooting + slashing which are two of their mediocre areas.
    I recognize that Haywood is a good defensive center, but Bynum is one of the best. I'll say it again, if the offer were on the table... I'D CONSIDER IT. Roddy is promising, but he's still unproven.... and that means a lot. If we could get a player this summer that replaced what Roddy could do to SOME DEGREE... then I'd really have to consider it.

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    damn... 21 may have found his match as far as Bynum guzzling...
    I think almost every team this decade besides Boston won a championship with a dominant center. When the Heat beat us... Wade still had a dominant Shaq. You can't put enough value on dominant centers in this league, and too few people understand that.

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    At least Parker had that one full good season spurfans call fall back on. 21_Bynums is over there citing a 3 game span in the middle of November to prove Bynum is a future HOF.
    new found respect for mav fans

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    Individual Mav fan is really overrating Bynum here..

    Bynum's a good C and he's one of the few Lakers I don't dislike, but I've never seen a player get more hype based on small sample sizes..

    Bynum's value in the playoffs is that he's a big body that adds to the biggest frontline in the NBA..if you put Haywood in there, then there wouldn't be a difference IMO, the Lakers would probably be even better TBH..a healthy Bynum? yes, obviously better than Haywood, but as others have said, a healthy Bynum is pretty much a fantasy at this point..

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    Individual Mav fan is really overrating Bynum here..

    Bynum's a good C and he's one of the few Lakers I don't dislike, but I've never seen a player get more hype based on small sample sizes..

    Bynum's value in the playoffs is that he's a big body that adds to the biggest frontline in the NBA..if you put Haywood in there, then there wouldn't be a difference IMO, the Lakers would probably be even better TBH..a healthy Bynum? yes, obviously better than Haywood, but as others have said, a healthy Bynum is pretty much a fantasy at this point..

    What a great take.....never heard that analysis before. Strong post!

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    Lakers will dead Bynum win or lose this series. Bynum/Sasha/fillers to New Orleans for Cp3/Okafor.

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    Individual Mav fan is really overrating Bynum here..

    Bynum's a good C and he's one of the few Lakers I don't dislike, but I've never seen a player get more hype based on small sample sizes..

    Bynum's value in the playoffs is that he's a big body that adds to the biggest frontline in the NBA..if you put Haywood in there, then there wouldn't be a difference IMO, the Lakers would probably be even better TBH..a healthy Bynum? yes, obviously better than Haywood, but as others have said, a healthy Bynum is pretty much a fantasy at this point..

    I thought about it for a little bit, and I'm willing to admit when I'm wrong. I think an upgrade to Bynum over Haywood would be more than trivial, but it wouldn't be significant. Not worth Roddy. A healthy Bynum.....would be attractive but Haywood and Roddy would have to bring back more than a healthy Bynum... maybe shannon brown and future first rounder as well. That sounds a bit more enticing. (though I'm a shannon brown fan)

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    Brendan + Roddy >>> Bynum

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    I recognize that Haywood is a good defensive center, but Bynum is one of the best.
    You've got this the wrong way around. Haywood is one of the 4 or 5 best defensive big men in the NBA. Bynum is slightly above average in that respect. And they're roughly equivalent rebounders too.

    Now, granted, Bynum's better on the offensive end, but it's not like he's a go-to player. He's a pick-and-roll finisher with a couple of moves in the paint that he can sometimes rely on.

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