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    That was a year ago.
    No Sherlock. Do you pride yourself in stating the obvious?
    Did you know the head of the UNRWA gave a speech en led "Illegal, inhuman and insane: a medieval siege on Gaza in 2010" a week ago?
    True, but isn't he talking about Hamas?

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    Gaza is a paradise. YouTube told me.

    Sincerely,

    DarrinS

    It could be. Too bad they elected Hamas.

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    should they elect someone that encourages the bulldozing?

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    It could be. Too bad they elected Hamas.
    They'd not have had the opportunity in the first place if the USA hadn't insisted Hamas be allowed to run. It's too bad our naive belief in "free elections" led us to pressure Israel to remove the ban on them.

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    should they elect someone that encourages the bulldozing?

    They should probably elect a group that doesn't fire missles and use their own people as human shields.



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    No Sherlock. Do you pride yourself in stating the obvious?
    You act as if this has happened with every shipment.

    Has it happened with every shipment?

    True, but isn't he talking about Hamas?
    No. You're an idiot.

    It could be. Too bad they elected Hamas.
    Why do you hate democracy, DarrinS?

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    True, but isn't he talking about Hamas?
    No. You're an idiot.
    Transcript please.

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    Transcript please.
    You need a transcript to tell you that Gaza cannot execute a medieval siege on itself?

    You're an idiot.

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    They should probably elect a group that doesn't fire missles and use their own people as human shields.
    they're firing missles at people that are slowly weeding them out, fister.

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    I'd like to see a transcript of his speech. I'm curious what someone who lives there has to say about it.

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    I'd like to see a transcript of his speech. I'm curious what someone who lives there has to say about it.
    Podcast not yet available, but he sure isn't saying Hamas is besieging Gaza.

    http://www2.lse.ac.uk/publicEvents/e...ed-subheading2

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    Podcast not yet available, but he sure isn't saying Hamas is besieging Gaza.

    http://www2.lse.ac.uk/publicEvents/e...ed-subheading2
    Never said he was.

    This is the same person who said Hamas doesn't steal or "confiscate" aid. Do you believe that?

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    Podcast not yet available, but he sure isn't saying Hamas is besieging Gaza.

    http://www2.lse.ac.uk/publicEvents/e...ed-subheading2
    Already went there. Funny how none of that stuff is available.

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    WC did.

    This is the same person who said Hamas doesn't steal or "confiscate" aid. Do you believe that?
    Don't know about each specific incident. They certainly might have, but I don't know much about the governmental powers of that particular elected government.

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    Already went there. Funny how none of that stuff is available.
    Why is it funny?

    Is it your contention that Ging claims Hamas is besieging Gaza?

    Yes or no.

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    The head of United Nation's Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) mission in Gaza, John Ging, specifically expressed the need for the Flotilla to enter Gaza due to the "medieval siege", mass unemployment, extreme poverty, food insecurity and food price rises caused by shortages left four out of five Gazans dependent on humanitarian aid. In response to the attempted undermining of Hamas' credibility by alleging that they might misuse aid is undercut by Ging's who has pointedly argued that Hamas simply does not steal and that thus any aid delivered to the UN will be respected.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-l..._b_596754.html

    The UN agency for Palestinian refugees said today it has halted all aid shipments into the Gaza Strip after the Hamas government seized thousands of tonnes of food and other provisions.

    The UN Relief and Works agency said it made the decision after Hamas personnel intercepted an aid shipment for the second time this week.

    In a statement, the agency said 10 truckloads of flour and rice delivered into Gaza yesterday were taken away by trucks affiliated with the Hamas-run social affairs ministry. Earlier this week, Hamas police took away thousands of blankets and food parcels meant for needy residents.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009...a-un-aid-hamas

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    Why is it funny?

    Is it your contention that Ging claims Hamas is besieging Gaza?

    Yes or no.
    Some elements are. There is no definitive yes or no. Those not doing it are allowing it.

    Apparently you don't know. Do you typically go by les?

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    Looks like something in the middle is missing since shipments resumed.
    I'd assume it has at least something to do with a new head of UNRWA.

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    Some elements are. There is no definitive yes or no. Those not doing it are allowing it.

    Apparently you don't know. Do you typically go by les?


    Please show me where John Ging states Hamas is besieging Gaza.

    You're an idiot.

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    I'd assume it has at least something to do with a new head of UNRWA.
    Is that all?

    Your assumption?

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    Is that all?

    Your assumption?
    Do you have something more concrete you'd like to share?

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    Please show me where John Ging states Hamas is besieging Gaza.

    You're an idiot.
    I don't know if he is or not. What evidence do you have?

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    Hamas spokesman Taher Nunu demanded an apology and said UNRWA was spreading false news. Ihab Ghussein, a spokesman for the Interior Ministry, said the incident occurred because the UN was storing the blankets in an area not authorized to be distributed.

    UN officials said the aid was kept in a local storage facility because the organization's regular warehouses were full. The UN, human rights groups and Palestinians have often complained that a blockade by Israel and Egypt has left Gaza critically short of vital supplies.

    Senior UN official John Ging said aid distribution would continue. "We are not going to punish the refugees for the irresponsible actions of a few," Ging said.
    Now he's the head on the UNRWA in Gaza. Do you think there's any chance Hamas still seizes aid?

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