BP Disaster Response Plan Severely Flawed

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I support off-shore oil drilling, I dont support oil spills


-------------------GOP.


...........even though oil drilling created this spill LOL

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Coast Guard Head Was Informed of Maine Oil Boom on 5/21. Yesterday, He Claimed He Didn’t Know
The.Most.Competent.Administration.Ever!

I like how the GOP plan is to blame everyone else but

"OFF SHORE OIL DRILLING"

[Wild Cobra]

I said they blame everything on Obama. You haven't noticed the trend?

You post here regularly, Wild Cobra. Do you read the posts?

Backpedaling huh?

Blame everything is too general, and I see him as being generally for only what he deserves to be blamed for by conservatives. The argument was specifically about blaming him for the spill. Admit it. You cannot find a quote of a non whacked out conservative blaming him for the oil spill.

[SnakeBoy]

Their disaster preparedness was so piss-poor Exxon gave them the heave ho on the Valdez cleanup; the Texas City explosion a few years back killed 18 and wounded 170, and resulted in criminal safety claims against BP; then there was the pipeline spill in Alaska, the biggest ever in the US up 'til then; and now comes Deepwater Horizon.

Yeah but they are fully prepared to protect the walruses in the gulf. At least give them credit for that.

[Winehole23]

Backpedaling huh?

I'm pretty sure I'm not guilty of saying what you think I said.

Admit it. You cannot find a quote of a non whacked out conservative blaming him for the oil spill.

Balls to your cowardly and facially specious 'non whacked out disclaimer' for starters.

[Winehole23]

What's wrong with just saying, you're wrong, wino, then saying what your problem is. How hard is that?

[Winehole23]

You don't need some phony justification bristling with very hastily improvised


*legalese.*

[Winehole23]

That said, I never restricted myself to any specific verbal formula. The objection is premature imo.

[Winehole23]

In essence all i said was that yv and ray are quick to blame. I even conceded the propriety of the objection yv raised.

[Winehole23]

WC: were you following the conversation, or just carpet bombing us from a mile up again?

[Winehole23]

BTW, what exactly is your complaint, WC?

[Winehole23]

Did we ever get that far?

[Wild Cobra]

In essence all i said was that yv and ray are quick to blame. I even conceded the propriety of the objection yv raised.

I'd say they are only 10% as fast to blame as the board liberals here when they blame republicans about something.

You know what this administration is guilty of with this leak disaster? micromanaging without result. It's pretty sad when the surrounding communities send a message that amounts to "fix the problem, or get out of the way and let us fix it."

[Wild Cobra]

BTW, what exactly is your complaint, WC?

To your continuing to say conservatives blame when I said specifically about the oil spill. I was saying I haven't seen any conservatives blame president Obama for the oil spill, but liberals would blame Bush if he was president.

[Winehole23]

I'd say they are only 10% as fast to blame as the board liberals here.

Conceded without stipulation. Next.

You know what this administration is guilty of with this leak disaster? micromanaging without result. It's pretty sad when the surrounding communities send a message that amounts to "fix the problem, or get out of the way and let us fix it."

Eh, not bad.

I seem to recall something Gov. Jindal said about protective berms not being constructed in a timely fashion in LA due to federal unresponsiveness, so your very slightly less specific formulation does not strike me as being at all outlandish.

Or did you have something specific in mind, WC?

[Wild Cobra]

Or did you have something specific in mind, WC?

Not really. I was mainly sruing the point nobody said the oil spill was Obama's fault.

I see the same going on as with anything else the government gets involved with, regardless of administration. What i would like to see, and give props to Obama for, would be if he signed an executive order that temporarily lifted regulations impeding progress on this. What good are regulations designed to protect the environment when they are more harmful by stopping efforts to gain control over a larger environmental problem? He is the executor of law. He can wipe out regulations with the stroke of a pen.

[Winehole23]

I was saying I haven't seen any conservatives blame president Obama for the oil spill, but liberals would blame Bush if he was president.

liberals are hypocrites. wah. can you please stop crying about this now?

[Wild Cobra]

liberals are hypocrites. wah. can you please stop crying about this now?

So we just had a misunderstand as to our points, right?

[Winehole23]

It makes conservatives look whiny and unmanly.

[Winehole23]

Why don't you have some respect for yourself instead. I think maybe you got carried off in the tide of your own disdain for the topic. A lot of people did.

[Winehole23]

So we just had a misunderstand as to our points, right?

Given the lordly/pedantic tone you took with me WC, I rather tend to think not.

And though I find myself resisting your offer to accomodate to my core, I do not relish the opportunity to revisit former snippets of this conversation for any reason at all, let alone to prevail somehow in a puny contention of minds over basically nothing.

[Winehole23]

That said, filed under *misunderstood* works for me too.

[Wild Cobra]

Given the lordly/pedantic tone you took with me WC, I rather tend to think not.

And though I find myself resisting your offer to accomodate to my core, I do not relish the opportunity to revisit former snippets of this conversation for any reason at all, let alone to prevail somehow in a puny contention of minds over basically nothing.

Believe as you must. I stood firm that I didn't see any conservative say the oil spill was Obama's fault. That was, and still is my line in the sand. I didn't specify that until post #48, but that was what I meant all along. In #48:

So where did they say the oil spill is Obama's fault?

[Winehole23]

You can keep it. That's ok with me.

[Winehole23]

Not really. I was mainly sruing the point nobody said the oil spill was Obama's fault.

Sruing?

I see the same going on as with anything else the government gets involved with, regardless of administration.

Government is bad. Check.

What i would like to see, and give props to Obama for, would be if he signed an executive order that temporarily lifted regulations impeding progress on this.

Like MMS recently did, handing out some 19 or so environmental waivers to deep drillers after the Deepwater Horizon blowout?

I presume you would applaud Mr. Salazar and the MMS for their proactive suspension of environmental niceties for deepwater drillers at a time of national troubles. Do you?