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    the day he turned 18 he became responsible for what happened when he was a baby?
    No, as I said, as an adult he chose to enroll in a US college without either US citizenship or a student Visa, and he alone is responsible for that choice.

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    Cesar Millan (the dog whisperer) was also an illegal (I read his book). Not sure if he came over as a kid with his parents, or as an adult. Another example of "illegal immigrant makes good".
    Nobody is saying that illegals can't make it good. This is the land of opportunity, and they know it. Too many born here have forgotten that. We now have immigration laws that need to be respected, else why not just violate any law we don't like?

    Sometimes sad things happen. Actually more often than not. Shouldn't those who complete the legal process of immigration be admired more?

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    No, as I said, as an adult he chose to enroll in a US college without either US citizenship or a student Visa, and he alone is responsible for that choice.
    I want to know the harm done to the owner of the stolen Social security number. how else did he complete the paperwork?

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    Sometimes sad things happen. Actually more often than not. Shouldn't those who complete the legal process of immigration be admired more?
    Are you saying that this kid should have gone down to INS at age 4 to fill out the appropriate immigration paperwork?

    It's patently ridiculous to me to punish a kid who is technically in violation of the law because his parents chose to break the law, particularly where the child has worked his tail off to do things that many in this country (those who are here citizens, those who are here legally, and those who are not here legally) can only aspire to accomplish. It's one thing to say that we're going to enforce the law; it's something else to say that the law is absolute and without exception -- whether those exceptions are pragmatic or purely legal (or both).

    Rather than punishing this kid, wouldn't a better example in this instance involve having him apply for the requisite visa in some quite public fashion? There's no punishment for a kid who's really done nothing wrong -- and who's done a great deal right -- and you still get the same public spectacle to establish the virtues of legal immigration.

    But that would undoubtedly not be a political victory for those who so vehemently oppose illegal immigration and whose primary commerce is divisiveness.

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    I want to know the harm done to the owner of the stolen Social security number. how else did he complete the paperwork?
    Nice assumption. You didn't even ask a question in getting to that one.

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    Are you saying that this kid should have gone down to INS at age 4 to fill out the appropriate immigration paperwork?

    It's patently ridiculous to me to punish a kid who is technically in violation of the law because his parents chose to break the law, particularly where the child has worked his tail off to do things that many in this country (those who are here citizens, those who are here legally, and those who are not here legally) can only aspire to accomplish. It's one thing to say that we're going to enforce the law; it's something else to say that the law is absolute and without exception -- whether those exceptions are pragmatic or purely legal (or both).

    Rather than punishing this kid, wouldn't a better example in this instance involve having him apply for the requisite visa in some quite public fashion? There's no punishment for a kid who's really done nothing wrong -- and who's done a great deal right -- and you still get the same public spectacle to establish the virtues of legal immigration.

    But that would undoubtedly not be a political victory for those who so vehemently oppose illegal immigration and whose primary commerce is divisiveness.
    he's not technically in violation of the law when he was here illegally and he knew it. He's smart enough to go to Harvard but not smart enough to keep ahold of his passport

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    There's no punishment for a kid who's really done nothing wrong...
    While you criticize another poster for his assumption that he has done something wrong, how can you be so sure he has not?

    We still have no answer as to how he enrolled in college and secured a scholarship without a SSN or Student Visa.

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    Nice assumption. You didn't even ask a question in getting to that one.
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but to get scholarships and apply for college, you need to give them your social security number.

    Am I wrong?

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    Are you saying that this kid should have gone down to INS at age 4 to fill out the appropriate immigration paperwork?

    It's patently ridiculous to me to punish a kid who is technically in violation of the law because his parents chose to break the law, particularly where the child has worked his tail off to do things that many in this country (those who are here citizens, those who are here legally, and those who are not here legally) can only aspire to accomplish. It's one thing to say that we're going to enforce the law; it's something else to say that the law is absolute and without exception -- whether those exceptions are pragmatic or purely legal (or both).

    Rather than punishing this kid, wouldn't a better example in this instance involve having him apply for the requisite visa in some quite public fashion? There's no punishment for a kid who's really done nothing wrong -- and who's done a great deal right -- and you still get the same public spectacle to establish the virtues of legal immigration.

    But that would undoubtedly not be a political victory for those who so vehemently oppose illegal immigration and whose primary commerce is divisiveness.
    See this post:

    He probably could. There are immigration previsions that would keep most who entered illegally from being eligible, but you can always work an exception to policy. Since he was a child, and the the crime wasn't his, I can see him easily getting a student visa.
    I'm not strictly hard on him continuing college here. This is a possibility, unless he knowingly used someone's SS number.

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    His parents could have bought a fake social security card for him early on, and he always used that number.

    He could have had an ITIN and just used that on the forms in place of a social security number. (Illegals can get an ITIN and pay taxes .. most people wouldn't notice it's not a SS#).

    There's usually a box that says, "Are you a US Citizen?" on college apps, etc. I'm assuming he just lied and said "Yes," right? Well he knew he wasn't a citizen, and no matter what a do-gooder he is, you can't just flat out lie on stuff like that.

    If he really wanted to go to college, he could have gone back to his country and applied for a student visa; found an employer to sponsor him and get employment authorization; or contacted an immigration attorney to finagle a way to get some sort of temporary authorization to be in the country while working on obtaining citizenship.

    It's hard to feel sorry for the guy - even though I'm sure he's a good kid - unless he actually believed he was born in America.

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    Big ups to Kori Ellis on her stand on this.
    Get this mother er legal and then go to Harvard.
    Im sure this Mexican is a good guy, he just needs to get legal before
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    starts an American education.








    FollOw
    RuLes.



    Be smart, Mexicans.

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    Immigration officials are currently not pursuing deportation proceedings against Highlands High School graduate Eric Balderas, an unauthorized immigrant from Mexico who's been thrust into the national spotlight in the wake of pending legislation that could help secure citizenship for students like him.

    News that his case had been deferred came late Friday, less than two weeks after Balderas, 19, was stopped at the San Antonio International Airport prior to taking a flight to Boston, where he just finished his freshman year at Harvard University.

    Shortly after learning the news, Balderas expressed relief in a public Facebook message: “I am rejoicing in my heart.”

    It was a sharp turn of events and emotion for the Ivy League student, who said he had contemplated suicide as he sat in the San Antonio offices of the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, wondering if the life he had built for himself in his adopted country was about to come crashing down...

    http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/san..._96719879.html
    I am trying to feel for the guy but threatening suicide causes me not to...

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    Suicide? Geesh!

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    This guy is a illegal but he manged to make it to Harvard. How many others have tried and failed. I have to give big kudos to him on hitting the books and doing the work to earn what he got . Congrats on getting a free ride to the best. He is the type of new immigrants America needs. Why did he need to fly back to school. Do you think he would make it back to school if he drove or hitchhiked back? As long as he didn't drive threw the evil republic of Arizona he would have made it back to school with no drama. Keep a low profile and make the grades and get the sheep skin. But Nooooooo he had to listen to his liberal buddy's and make an issue of his illegal status. His so called friends at Harvard screwed him to come out but they got their agenda taken care. He is on his way out of the country deported but with a nice photo opp.
    Congrats to the taxpayers of the SAISD who put another illegal thru school. I wish Eric was a legal American but it is what it is. Everyone loses here but it looks like his friends at Harvard got what they wanted. This sucks!

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    This guy is a illegal but he manged to make it to Harvard. How many others have tried and failed. I have to give big kudos to him on hitting the books and doing the work to earn what he got . Congrats on getting a free ride to the best. He is the type of new immigrants America needs. Why did he need to fly back to school. Do you think he would make it back to school if he drove or hitchhiked back? As long as he didn't drive threw the evil republic of Arizona he would have made it back to school with no drama. Keep a low profile and make the grades and get the sheep skin. But Nooooooo he had to listen to his liberal buddy's and make an issue of his illegal status. His so called friends at Harvard screwed him to come out but they got their agenda taken care. He is on his way out of the country deported but with a nice photo opp.
    Congrats to the taxpayers of the SAISD who put another illegal thru school. I wish Eric was a legal American but it is what it is. Everyone loses here but it looks like his friends at Harvard got what they wanted. This sucks!

    So full of fail:

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37798055

    BOSTON - An undo ented Harvard University student is no longer facing deportation to Mexico after being detained nearly two weeks ago by immigration authorities at a Texas airport, officials said.

    U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement said late Friday that they would not pursue the deportation of Eric Balderas. The 19-year-old was detained in June after he tried to use a university ID card to board a plane from San Antonio to Boston.

    Mario Rodas, a friend of Balderas, said Balderas was granted deferred action, which can be used to halt deportation based on the merits of a case. Rodas said Balderas learned the news Saturday morning from his lawyer.

    "He's very excited and ready to live a normal life," Rodas said. "He's ready to move forward."

    Rodas said Balderas will be applying for a United States work permit and will keep trying to get permanent immigration status. He said that Balderas' lawyers have advised him not to comment while the case is pending.

    Balderas, who previously had used a Mexican passport to board planes but recently lost it, told The Associated Press that he became despondent and thought he was being deported to Mexico immediately after he was detained June 7. But he was released the next day.

    According to a Facebook page set up to highlight his case, Balderas was brought to the U.S. from Mexico by his family at age 4. He said he doesn't remember living in Mexico.

    He's studying molecular and cellular biology at Harvard and hopes to become a cancer researcher. He said he qualified for Harvard's privately funded scholarship package.

    Harvard officials threw their support behind Balderas after his detainment.

    "Eric Balderas has already demonstrated the discipline and work ethic required for rigorous university work, and has, like so many of our undergraduates, expressed an interest in making a difference in the world," said Christine Heenan, Harvard's vice president of public affairs and communications.

    The case also sparked a buzz on social media sites and among student immigrant activists who see the Balderas situation as the ideal test case to push the proposed DREAM act — a federal bill that would allow illegal immigrants a pathway to citizenship through college enrollment or military service.

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    haha Cesar Millan is all illegal immigration has to offer.

    thats funny.

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