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    That's all your argument is?

    Pretty pathetic.

    The only class illegal labor benefits really significantly is the people who employ them, so if nothing is done about that, nothing else is going to matter.
    I wish trolls like you would disappear. All you do is stir the post, cause anger, and have nothing meaningful to contribute.

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    I wish trolls like you would disappear. All you do is stir the post, cause anger, and have nothing meaningful to contribute.
    So you don't think anything should be done about those who employ illegals?

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    I wish trolls like you would disappear. All you do is stir the post, cause anger, and have nothing meaningful to contribute.
    I hate people who can't back up their own claims... especailly the one's where they claim to know what other people's motives are...

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    bullets are cheaper then fence
    great. declare war on mexican citizens. if you want to engage in a conversation regarding the illegal immigration issue then bring to the table something pragmatic. in the end "bullets" would be far more expensive than any fence, which in itself was extremely costly and ineffective. the only true way to reform is through economic and amnesty measures on both sides of the border.

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    Illegals have been going back and forth the southern border for many decades. It's a VERY old story.

    Exploitation of their labor by businesses and individuals (urban mucky mucks who don't pay the FICA for cash-paid maids, gardners, babysitters, housekeepers) is essential to the exploiters' financial well-being.

    In the list of HUGE failures and problems facing USA, illegal immigration is WAY DOWN the list.

    They contributes billions to Social Security they'll never be claim, and billions to the IRS.

    http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/...ntstaxes_N.htm

    Politicians, nativists, KKK, militiamen, and other trouble-makers are rousing the rabble against illegal immigration to win their votes, but elected politicians NEVER do anything about illegal immigration.

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    true. the bracero program is a great example of the way illegals have been regarded by the US when it comes to the need for their labor and our willingness to exploit that.

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    there are still allot of people that don't know the codeword "comprehensive" means selling this nation out.
    Back to the "McCarthy is my hero" sig again for a second. So no joke, do you really think some liberals sit around reading the Communist Manifesto? Do they compare notes, like what their favorite pages are and stuff? Are they part of a secret underground? And finally, have they infiltrated the State Department?

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    So you don't think anything should be done about those who employ illegals?
    if we secure the boarder it would not be a problem

    I think people who hire illegals should be punished
    but if they do not work they will rob and shot to be able to eat
    or worse they will get welfare from the tax payers money

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    Illegals have been going back and forth the southern border for many decades. It's a VERY old story.

    Exploitation of their labor by businesses and individuals (urban mucky mucks who don't pay the FICA for cash-paid maids, gardners, babysitters, housekeepers) is essential to the exploiters' financial well-being.

    In the list of HUGE failures and problems facing USA, illegal immigration is WAY DOWN the list.

    They contributes billions to Social Security they'll never be claim, and billions to the IRS.

    http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/...ntstaxes_N.htm

    Politicians, nativists, KKK, militiamen, and other trouble-makers are rousing the rabble against illegal immigration to win their votes, but elected politicians NEVER do anything about illegal immigration.
    you know why policicans do not do anything
    they ing want their votes

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    "secure the border"

    ... but NOBODY has any concrete proposals how to do it. (free-fire zones and minefields won't happen).

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    Back to the "McCarthy is my hero" sig again for a second. So no joke, do you really think some liberals sit around reading the Communist Manifesto? Do they compare notes, like what their favorite pages are and stuff? Are they part of a secret underground? And finally, have they infiltrated the State Department?
    I never implied any such thing. Such stupidity requires no farther response except this. Study Project Venona.

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    I never implied any such thing. Such stupidity requires no farther response except this. Study Project Venona.
    What about that picture in your signature?

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    "secure the border"

    ... but NOBODY has any concrete proposals how to do it. (free-fire zones and minefields won't happen).
    free-fire zones and minefields do work

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    you know why policicans do not do anything
    they ing want their votes
    Yes, they want the votes and money of those who employ the illegals. Should those employers be shot too? That will take care of the problem and be cheaper.

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    What about that picture in your signature?
    It has nothing to do with implying I say liberals are reading the manifesto. When someone makes something up like that, it doesn't deserve an answer. Keep such up, and i will ignore you.

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    free-fire zones and minefields do work
    wow. all this time we could have just laid mines down across the entire US border! such refulgence lost on a spurs forum. what a shame.

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    It has nothing to do with implying I say liberals are reading the manifesto. When someone makes something up like that, it doesn't deserve an answer. Keep such up, and i will ignore you.
    But the picture is a picture of a red communist flag descending over the United States except like Venom from the Old Spider-man comics. There's a gold star where the White House is and red (the Communist color) is engulfing the US. Literally saying that the US is falling into Communism. Am I misinterpreting this? Maybe you should take it slowly and explain that picture of the US to me. If you could do that I'd really appreciate it. Maybe it's self explanatory to some people, I don't get it.

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    But the picture is a picture of a red communist flag descending over the United States except like Venom from the Old Spider-man comics. There's a gold star where the White House is and red (the Communist color) is engulfing the US. Literally saying that the US is falling into Communism. Am I misinterpreting this? Maybe you should take it slowly and explain that picture of the US to me. If you could do that I'd really appreciate it. Maybe it's self explanatory to some people, I don't get it.
    He's not implying anything...

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    ... but NOBODY has any concrete proposals how to do it.
    Bull . Obongo thinks 1200 national guards will secure the border. Of course we won't know until he sends them. When did he make that promise? Hmm, maybe Kyl told the truth.

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    Or the necklaces from that movie Running Man?
    sure. we could pay the cartels to pass them out to every Mexican citizen.

    it would help control the war on drugs too.

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    But the picture is a picture of a red communist flag descending over the United States except like Venom from the Old Spider-man comics. There's a gold star where the White House is and red (the Communist color) is engulfing the US.
    So? That doesn't mean I think liberals are reading the manifesto.

    This administration is clearly pushing socialistic and socialism/communistic ideals. I'm sorry if you don't see that. The liberals are simply blind to this, just electing who will give them the most candy like spoiled children, and this is how socialism/communism comes to be.
    Literally saying that the US is falling into Communism. Am I misinterpreting this?
    No, you are not mistaken on that part. The democrats want to nationalize corporations. What do you call that? They continue to step ion freedoms. What do you call that?
    Maybe you should take it slowly and explain that picture of the US to me.
    Communism is spreading from this administration. Just that simple.

    I am not saying we have external forces pushing communism. We have prominent liberal democrats with wealth and power doing it from within.

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    The usual 'liberals can't see it, but I do'. Funny though that this President arrived in the WH with more than just votes from 'liberals' alone.

    I guess independents are all communists too...

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    The usual 'liberals can't see it, but I do'. Funny though that this President arrived in the WH with more than just votes from 'liberals' alone.

    I guess independents are all communists too...
    Voters are duped regularly.

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    Voters are duped regularly.
    They got duped twice? Congressional and Presidential elections?

    You're bordering the 'everyone is stupid but me' line...

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    They got duped twice? Congressional and Presidential elections?

    You're bordering the 'everyone is stupid but me' line...
    Voters are also selfish.

    Did you miss the part that voters vote for politicians who say they will do things for them?

    That is 180 degrees from the America I grew up in. What happened? We used to be a nation of proud individuals. Immigrants founded this nation for freedom, the freedom to keep the fruits of our labor. Not have selfish liberals wanting to give everything away to other.

    liberals. They are the scourge of society.

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