Then you haven't been paying attention.
Allegedly, this draft has depth well into the second round. If the Spurs don't think they can find a quality player at #20, the highest pick they've had in 13 years, then they just don't want to take on more salary. They've gotta find some help at the 2, 3 or 4, and ditching their first-round pick won't be helping the cause.
Many people are saying there are significant drops after the 5th and ~15th picks. There might be a nice spread of talent throughout the draft, but there isn't a depth of game changing talent.
The Spurs trading the 1st round pick was my original assumption, but I don't know if I still believe it..toss-up..I wouldn't mind if they traded up, but getting rid of a 20th pick doesn't bother me..
The fact that they gave contracts to Hairston, Temple, Gee and Jerrells(+ the addition of a potential 2nd round pick) also indicates to me that they have a back-up plan for compe ion from young players if they don't get a 1st rounder..none of those guys are great prospects, but 3 of the 4 have shown some potential..
People love to overrate draft picks, especially in the 15-30 range IMO..
Thats why it was better for the spurs future success to not have made the playoffs.
I agree. There should be a player that falls to 20 that can help the spurs.
I think the problem is that after 15, there is little distinction between a first rounder and a second rounder in terms of talent. So why take on a guaranteed contract for a player that has only marginally better potential than a second rounder who doesn't have a guaranteed contract.
it makes the most sense there allready paying tim,tony,manu,rj and now splitter if theres not a player they like at 20 there not gonna guarantee another contract for a player who wont play this coming year
The point being missed here is that the Spurs are over the luxury tax mark, not that they are over the salary cap. It is no secret that the Spurs do not like that notion. If the Spurs trade this pick away or play the draft and stash game, it isn't to gain room under the cap, it is so they won't be paying the dollar for dollar tax. No matter what moves they make, there will be no cap space. Trading in the nba requires getting matching salaries in return or finding a partner with adequate cap space to absorb the contract. It's nba dealing 101.
In order to use our exceptions and \ or bring over Splitter they have to consider all means of delaying salary counting against them this year. By dealing away this pick for future asset(s) or drafting a foreign player to bring over later they can achieve this. What the Spurs are doing is simply putting out feelers in all directions to help educate themselves so they can make the proper decisions.
This draft is not overly strong with immediate difference makers, certainly not 20 picks into the draft. However, this could be one of the best years ever in regards to using the MLE, due to the crazy number of valuable players who are free agents. The free agent market is saturated with more good talent than there are teams under the cap to sign them. That means that some players who would normally get paid by a team under the cap are going to have to settle for exception money for a year and try to play their way into big money as a free agent next year. So what would u rather have? Somebody like Hassan Whiteside at number 20 or a free agent left standing with only MLE offers after, Lebron, Wade, Bosh, Joe Johnson, Amare, and Boozer take the available money. I am not going to go through the list of free agents, but it is amore impressive list than the list of available players at 20th pick.
There is risk either way, and that is what the Spurs have to weigh. The risk in the above theory is what if all these fa superstars simply return to their teams? Then perhaps we dont get value with our MLE. The safer move IS to trade this pick for future assets, since u arent losing anything, but simply delaying its financial impact. Not to mention future picks are more tradable commodities, since they dont have salaries attached to them that must be matched or absorbed under the cap.
Would it be better on the surface to try to find a steal at 20 and then use the MLE? Certainly, but that just might not be possible without trading away salary. That is highly unlikely with the teams with cap space hoarding it right now due to this fa class. I don't know what they are going to do, but it isn't going to be anything that puts them any further into the luxury tax. Not after the RJ trade that put them into this mess. Trading out of the first or drafting a player and stashing him is the approach that risks the least, so it is very possible.To say anything else is simply showing ignorance in the nba collective bargaining agreement currently in place.
When the Spurs float out word that they want to trade their pick before the draft, that has usually meant they have promised the pick to a player and want to put up a smokescreen.
As reality sinks in about the relative talent and probable performance of picks after 15 and the cost to the Spurs in guaranteed money plus luxury tax, I think it becomes more likely that the Spurs might choose a foreigh player who they could draft and stash overseas.
Been there and done that.
Thats getting really old the spurs need young athletic talent now.
"trade out" translates to "trade up" when you use the CIA Pop decoder ring.
If we can't do a trade for a top ten player then I am Ok with trading out just as long as we can trade it for a high second round pick. We could trade Hill to Indiana switch our first round picks and then switch our second round picks.
Last edited by BackHome; 06-24-2010 at 12:05 AM.
Couple this with the Yahoo draft notes that a certain Eli0t was reportes as hurting his knee during his workout in SA and hasn't worked out since for anyone, and well....When the Spurs float out word that they want to trade their pick before the draft, that has usually meant they have promised the pick to a player and want to put up a smokescreen.
My CIA Pop decoder ring has multiple translation options for "trade out." However, I think I need to get a less complicated one, because in addition to "trade up" and "stay put," it also includes the potential translations of "foreign player rights firesale," "1983 Merlot," and "punch Dennis Lindsey wearing all 4 championship rings."
We must be shopping at the same store.My CIA Pop decoder ring has multiple translation options for "trade out." However, I think I need to get a less complicated one, because in addition to "trade up" and "stay put," it also includes the potential translations of "foreign player rights firesale," "1983 Merlot," and "punch Dennis Lindsey wearing all 4 championship rings."
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