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    I'm not a Bonner fan by any stretch of the imagination, but he is arguably our best and most consistent 3pt shooter which is a pretty shameful thought in itself. Though he really does not bring anything else to the table.

    Like many Spurs fans I'd prefer to see Mahinmi get some real minutes.,. we really have had no opportunity to see what he is capable of in the NBA. However, in the right role I can understand bringing Bonner back.
    None of that matters because Bonner doesn't produce in the playoffs.

    Bonner is like that old car you've kept around for sentimental reasons. You're very comfortable driving it to the grocery store around the corner. However, you wouldn't dare trust it enough to take it on a long road trip out of town, because it's so unreliable.

    We've all seen this movie before - and it sucks. Why the FO still puts faith in this guy is beyond me? There is absolutely no excuse to waste a roster spot on a rotation player, who is a proven playoff choker. He doesn't deserve a roster spot.

    I'd rather they resign Ian, as a 5th big. Or even taking a chance on Tolliver would be better than him.

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    well sure, i'd take tolliver now that he can hit some threes. Anyone else?
    +1

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    No. I don't care what the price tag is.

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    I am ok if they bring him back at 1- 1.5 million a year. Anything more would not make sense to me.

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    Senor Spur obviously thinks highly of Jeff McDonald's opinion.

    Why? I don't know.

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    Brian Scalabrine is also a free agent?

    Sign em both.

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    if bonner gets a contract then ian deserves to get a contract too....he is too young to let him sign some where else...
    Bonner is a better NBA player than Ian, and don't give me this "he never got a chance" bull . He has every chance to prove himself to the coaching staff in practice and apparently can't do that.

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    Brian Scalabrine is also a free agent?

    Sign em both.
    Twin Gingers

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    Brian Cardinal feels left out. He will dye his hair red.

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    He has every chance to prove himself to the coaching staff in practice and apparently can't do that.
    No he doesn't.

    Spurs practices throughout the season consist of game planning for the opposition and developing small wrinkles in their defense and offense accordingly.

    The other half of the practice is made up of a light shoot around.

    Spurs don't have the time or the legs to have full fledged practices/ scrimmages during the year.

    Mahinmi's practices consist of mainly individual drills and 2 on 2 or 3 on 3 after practice to stay in shape with the rest of the players that have a hard time finding time on the floor.

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    Bonner is a better NBA player than Ian, and don't give me this "he never got a chance" bull . He has every chance to prove himself to the coaching staff in practice and apparently can't do that.
    But, but, but I saw Ian play against the Nets and he alters shots, is tall and young. Popa ruined him. He could have been an All-Star!!!

    I hope he leaves and wins 10 les all of them against the Spurs in the Finals because that's how big of a Spurs fan I am.

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    With the number of roster spots that need to be filled and the limited number of exceptions available to bring in players, Bonner coming back was always pretty much a given IMO. If nothing else he'll be able to eat up some regular season minutes and I'm fine with that.

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    Senor Spur obviously thinks highly of Jeff McDonald's opinion.

    Why? I don't know.
    It's not faith in McDonald's opinion, it's more a familiarity with Pop's man-crush on certain players - the Big Red-Headed 3-pt chucker being one.

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    But, but, but I saw Ian play against the Nets and he alters shots, is tall and young. Popa ruined him. He could have been an All-Star!!!

    I hope he leaves and wins 10 les all of them against the Spurs in the Finals because that's how big of a Spurs fan I am.
    Probably the same thing Laker fans were saying about Andrew Bynum when he was putting up 3 and 2 with 5 fouls during his first two years.

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    this off season just got worse. WTF are they thinking. Jefferson and Bonner being brought back are the Spurs putting the noose around their own necks.

    i bet the s that want RJ back are championing Bonner. neither of which do absolutely nothing for this team other than fill a roster spot.

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    Probably the same thing Laker fans were saying about Andrew Bynum when he was putting up 3 and 2 with 5 fouls during his first two years.
    Please tell me you're not trying to compare Ian to Bynum.

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    this off season just got worse. WTF are they thinking. Jefferson and Bonner being brought back are the Spurs putting the noose around their own necks.

    i bet the s that want RJ back are championing Bonner. neither of which do absolutely nothing for this team other than fill a roster spot.


    Considering Mason, Finley and Bogans all equated to 8 million last season, Jefferson at 8 million a year is really good value.

    That is a better situation than having James Jones starting at small forward.

    In regards of Bonner, I hope Spurs don't plan on bringing him back, but I understand the move if he comes back for a fraction of last year's salary. I would rather fill the 5th big spot with a young, up and coming player who could be an asset to the future as well as the present. (Mahinmi is one that fits that criteria)

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    Please tell me you're not trying to compare Ian to Bynum.
    Such a comparison is not fair to Ian.

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    Even though I am not a big fan of re-signing Bonner, the addition of Tiago, Anderson, and maybe another good addition could help open things up a bit more when Bonner is actually on the floor. I know I know... I am just trying to figure out what the Spurs FO would be thinking.

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    Tim's going to play 30min/per.

    Tiago would play around 30min/per.

    Blair and 'Dyess will combined for around 30min/per.

    Are you telling me it'd be that terrible to have Bonner playing 6-10 min/per?

    Whether it's Kurz, Tolliver, or any other low-cost option, I just don't see how the Spurs would be in better shape than with a guy they know (for better or worse) and that knows the system.

    This is such a non-issue if he returns as their fifth Big playing behind Duncan, Splitter, Blair and 'Dyess . . .
    Bonner has been given enough chances. Bonner should not get a regular spot in the rotation and any injury to a big that will happen. Its better he is not on the roster.

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    Obviously I am in the minority on this, but I've said in the past (and my stance has not changed) that I don't mind the Spurs bringing back Bonner as our 5th big at a vet minimum deal. Bonner actually improved in a few areas this year, although his ceiling is extremely low in just about every area other than 3 pt. shooting. With that being said, throughout the year I was puzzled with so many posters hating on him when he was the only player on our team that could sink a shot beyond the arc. That was our biggest weakness, moreso last year than any year in recent memory, and everyone is ready to get rid of the only player that can hit a 3.

    I won't be heartbroken or lose any sleep if he goes elsewhere, but I'm not ready to start searching for another team to root for if the Spurs offer him a very reasonable deal to be a bench player either.

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    Obviously I am in the minority on this, but I've said in the past (and my stance has not changed) that I don't mind the Spurs bringing back Bonner as our 5th big at a vet minimum deal. Bonner actually improved in a few areas this year, although his ceiling is extremely low in just about every area other than 3 pt. shooting. With that being said, throughout the year I was puzzled with so many posters hating on him when he was the only player on our team that could sink a shot beyond the arc. That was our biggest weakness, moreso last year than any year in recent memory, and everyone is ready to get rid of the only player that can hit a 3.

    I won't be heartbroken or lose any sleep if he goes elsewhere, but I'm not ready to start searching for another team to root for if the Spurs offer him a very reasonable deal to be a bench player either.
    Because he promptly returned everything he scored at the other end. He also can't even do what he does best in the playoffs while getting the minutes.
    Furthermore, it taxes Tim because he's normally paired with him, and TD ends up having to do most if not all of the grunt work inside the paint.

    This is not hate, it's just being realistic. He was not as bad last season as, say, Mason. But then you're just setting the bar way too low. Time to move on to greener pastures.

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    Because he promptly returned everything he scored at the other end. He also can't even do what he does best in the playoffs while getting the minutes.
    Furthermore, it taxes Tim because he's normally paired with him, and TD ends up having to do most if not all of the grunt work inside the paint.

    This is not hate, it's just being realistic. He was not as bad last season as, say, Mason. But then you're just setting the bar way too low. Time to move on to greener pastures.
    Again, I may be in the minority here - but I saw many times down the stretch where Bonner played solid/pretty good defense. This is one of those few areas that I noted an improvement. Don't get me wrong, I'm not clamoring for him to get All Defensive Team votes - but he actually surprised a me a lot with his play on the defensive end on numerous occasions. I believe he also improved as a rebounder, but not to the point that it would be his strength.

    Anyways, I think that a lot of this hate is based on the time that we've suffered through seeing Matt as a starter and that obviously would not be the case if the Spurs bring him back. As a 5th big off the bench, Bonner is far more palatable.

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    Bonner is better than a lot of the other options out there, most importantly because he is already familiar with the Spurs' system, but also because his "skill" set is kind of interesting. If the Spurs are going to sign a 4th or 5th option backup big (behind Duncan, Splitter, McD, Blair), they could do a lot worse.

    I think most Spurs fans have a problem with the guy just because he plays big minutes and has a decent contract. I don't see him doing either of those two if he returns, so I say have at it.

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    We're not going to agree. But let me reiterate:

    The idea that Matt Bonner would be the 5th big on the bench is laughable. He would be the 3rd/4th big, that is, integral part of the bench rotation.

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