Can we play the followijng lineup right until mid february?
Splitter
Blair
RJ
Hill
Parker
(should get us at about nearly 50%, doesnt it?)
then trade Parker and RJ for better players and go with this fresh lineup to make a run?
Dyess/Splitter(then somehow experienced)
Timmy/Blair
our unbeateatebal tribble double every evening SF, that someone trew at us for RJ and Parkers expiring
Manu
Hill
???
no??
...so its shut!
I'd have to see who the "right pieces" are, but I honestly think that NOT trading Parker keeps the window open. Parker, when healthy and fresh, can be the most dominant player on the court...and with an aging Duncan and Ginobili, they'll need his fresh legs now more than ever.
There's a first time for everything, so here's the roster as I see it.
Duncan
Splitter
Bonner
Hill
Parker
Blair
Manu
McDyess
Anderson
Hairston
LLE Player
Minimum Vet
Obviously an upgrade at SF, (a defensive specialist?) would be ideal and another Vet big.
That roster could win a Championship. Things have to fall in place of course, but it's a Championship caliber roster.
They gotta limit TD and Manu's minutes all year of course, and save them for SPAM.
I say keep Tony the whole season unless someone offers a blockbuster deal the Spurs just can't refuse.
Then figure out what TP wants to do at the end of the year, after the parade.
So, no, the Window is not shut.
IF the Splitter deal goes to pot, then I'll concede a bit and pray for Shaq...but we are not there yet.
The chances of winning the nba should be reagarded as a continuous rather than dichotomous variable since it is a matter of probabilities. Even if the probability is 1% can you say that the window is shut?
Yes.
Duncan is too old.
Ginobili is too old.
the window shut in 08 when Manu got injured and the FO didn't trade him away.
the RJ trade + Bair was like a crowbar jammed under the window and opening it up just a bit
but it wasn't enough, the wood splintered off and the window fell shut again, and this time it was sealed with the re-signing of Manu
soon the window will be barred up and the house condemned when the FO fails to trade TP and either has to let him walk next year, or pay him 2x what he's worth to stay.
This.
No regrets at all though. A 4 championship run is nothing short of fantastic. Only three teams have more championships. Not bad, not bad at all. Miami has to win 3 more just to tie us.
IMO, OKC will be the biggest threat to LA in the west next season. They have the pieces, and now a little taste of the playoffs, and they are young young young...nothing but up for those guys, and, other than the Spurs, they are probably the classiest team out there.
I honestly felt that 08 was the curtain call so to speak. We were better than the Lakers that year but injuries kept the team from performing at its best during the series. I think the Spurs would have given Boston a run for their money in the Finals. That was the last legitimate shot that they had IMO.
If the Spurs do not win this year, it will be time for them to start rebuilding. And you know what, there is no shame in that when you consider what the Spurs have accomplished in the last decade. Look at teams like the Mavericks and Suns who will have to start rebuilding shortly. Those two teams have been in the hunt almost as long as the Spurs have and have still have nothing to show for it. The Jail Blazers, Kings, T-Wolves, Nets all had their short period of time where they were contenders for a le and they had to start rebuilding shortly after. Even the Lakers had to eventually start over after their 3-peat years. Which should make the average fan appreciate the Spurs consistency even more(even though they most likely do not).
If the Spurs keep their FO intact during their rebuilding years, I think they will have similar fortune of Blazers and Thunder. They will have to stockpile tons of young talent and trade some of it away for team needs.
I know you're a Spurs fan, but I can't wait for you to eat your words next June.
I don't doubt that a team with Duncan, Ginobili, Parker remains a threat still to win a championship. It's still a possibility, never count out the Spurs. Is it likely, perhaps not but they have to stay healthy all year and in the playoffs it's a whole new season.
The window currently centers around the youngest of the three stars and the development of the young, supporting cast.
If Parker is traded for cap space or a non-all star player, if Parker leaves via free agency, or if Parker does not come back and dominate despite being healthy and fresh...then the window is closed.
and/or...
If Hill plateaus as a distributor and Blair does not improve beyond a "garbage man" offensively, if Splitter is ONLY an average defender and does not produce offensively in the NBA, or if James Anderson proves too unathletic to be an effective shooter/scorer at the NBA level...then the winow has closed.
Until I see that from Parker and/or the young supporting cast, I'm not prepared to say the window is closed.
spurs rebuilding wont be over the top like those teams who went out and overspend of tank for top picks...
spurs already have the pieces, its just a matter of signing these clowns and handin the keys to the next franchise player...duncan and ginoboli can still play from the bench if they wanted too...
we can win it this year with the current team, all we need is splitter to sign
get another center maybe rasho or shaq
then 2 defensive SFs who can hit the outside shot....
Honestly, I think we will be as good as Miami this upcoming season, but not as good as the Lakers if Kobe doesn't start aging like he should be.
just next year, that's it. it's probably going to be the last year we see Duncan as we know him. and i doubt TP comes back the following year, just a hunch. going to be hard, but it's still open, even if slightly. weirder things have happened.
Bonner is back, so yes!
sad but true.
If the Bonner signing is true...it is slammed shut and nailed closed.
im just worred as we HAVENT HEARD ANYTHING lately on Splitter. it leads me to believe there's no deal close b/w to the two.
I think is the first time this decade where I felt we have no shot at winning a le. The team as currently constructed will have a of a time beating elite and younger teams.
We will remain compe ive I'm sure, but with the resigning of Bonner, and barring any blockbuster trades, the window is shut.
But I still hope.
Obviously it has. They were swept by the suns last season, and they have no prospects this seaosn outside of splitter, rj, and matt ing bonner. In other words, the status quo and splitter. And if you think splitter is enough to make any sort of difference by himself, you're out of your ing mind.
the only way our window shuts is if we resign bonner
Ok so ppl still don't understand this is a matter of probabilities and beleive ok if event X happens then all of a sudden we have no chance?
We can only do our best right? If we improve our team that chance will improve no? Is 4% better than 2 %?
Last edited by DrSteffo; 07-09-2010 at 03:54 PM.
Ahhh yes, it's all so simple........
Fresh lineup indeed.
Yub yub......it be shut.
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