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    How is that hypocrisy?..

    One guy admitted that he penetrated the woman, while the other guy hasn't given any reason to doubt that his decision came on Thursday morning..choosing to sign with Miami doesn't change that, because the reports(since we're using this as an argument) said he tried to get them all in Cleveland first..meaning his decision easily could have come that morning, like King said..there were more people that thought Lebron would stay in Cleveland, so it makes no sense..
    Again, so admitting you penetrated a woman is paramount to admiting rape?


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    Where did I admit that?..why do you do that?..

    I said penetrating the woman put it into question..elaborating, it's obviously due to the scenario, where there is a strange woman that you don't know, in a city where you don't know anybody, when the 2 of you are alone, and she cries rape..

    I've never acted like I know "for sure" that Kobe raped her, please, stop..as I keep repeating, it's a matter of opinion, as I've always said..so there's no hypocrisy..

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    I don't know damn well..how would I know?..I'm not a mind reader..
    Exactly! But then why do you sound 100% sure that Kobe raped the woman? Did Kobe commit adultery? He did and that is one of the worst things a man can do, but that does not mean he stooped to what may be the worst thing a man can do, and that is raping a woman.

    And the same things go for me about LBJ knowing whether or not he always wanted to go to Miami. Lets play it your way. Lets say he didn't know until the morning (which is BS because he had the show planned for that day. If he was still stumbling with his decision wouldn't he postpone it?) But lets play it your way. He still didn't tell the Cleveland Organization anything during the summer. He even admitted he didn't contact them during the show. Thats wrong.

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    As I've clearly said on this page, Kobe's rape is a matter of opinion..I don't attack people for their opinions, feel free to believe what you want..

    Remember, I'm the one defending Lebron here, I'm not forcing people to agree with him..I'm just defending him from the attacks that people are making for stupid reasons..
    Saying... I believe Kobe is a rapist is one thing.

    Saying on a daily basis... I dont root for rapists. Kobe is a rapist. How can anyone be a fan of a rapist etc etc.. is completely different. You are passing off your opinion as a fact. That is at the very least disingenious.

    You are just a Laker and Kobe Hater and Lebron nuthugger. Nothing less, nothing more.

    .... ohhhh and a racist liar!

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    The Cavs and Cleveland basically bent over backwards for Lebron and he stabs them in back. 100 percent classless is what Lebron is. I'm gonna laugh when he begs to be traded from the Heat.

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    You know Harlem you have good points but what frustrates me is your lack of giving Kobe ANY credit.

    See me on the other hand I'll give LeBron his props. No doubt about it he is the most talented player to ever play the game. Now why do I hate on him? Because he's immature and wastes all his time with his pre game antics and 1 hour decisions instead of going to the court and practicing.

    You go out and say other players on Kobe's team are better than him.

    Me on the other hand I will agree LeBron is still the best player on the Heat. I argue that he just ran away from the challenge of being the clear MAN on the team.

    See how I understand part of the other side? You don't...or maybe you do but you just don't want to go against everything you've said before.

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    I've never acted like I know "for sure" that Kobe raped her


    You are truly pathetic. It clearly doesn't get any worse.

    Your comments have never been stated as an opinion. You state and word them as facts. Everyone here knows it and yet you continue to deny.

    It truly has to suck to be YOU.

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    how did the heat get to trade 2x TPE? which is 15m each....that fkn should be limited

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    I've never acted like I know "for sure" that Kobe raped her

    You've repeatedly called Kobe a rapist, I generally don't call someone a rapist multiple times unless I'm 100% sure they raped someone.

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    Yes, my opinion is that Kobe raped her..do you want me to write "IMO" every time I state it?..

    Suns/Lakers/Kobe fan..

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    I'm not a fan of either Lebron or Kobe. I don't really care for either one. I'm just pointing out the fact you act like Lebron is a way better person than Kobe when they're both heads.

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    Yes, my opinion is that Kobe raped her..do you want me to write "IMO" every time I state it?..

    Suns/Lakers/Kobe fan..
    yes

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    Why do you think Lebron is a bad person?..

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    so let me get this straight:

    1)Harlem thinks Kobe really raped that giurl with like 5 guys sperm in her panties

    and

    2)Harlem believes Lebron woke up Thursday morning and decided Miami.

    lol..i guess Steven A Smith can see the future when he said that the 3 going to miami was a done deal before July 1.

    Steven A Smith also said that Lebron was the one who approached Wade IN THE REGULAR SEASON. hahah

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    Why do you think Lebron is a bad person?..

    Because he quits on his team in the middle of a close playoff series and then goes out of his way to embarrass the city that invested itself in him on national TV.

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    so let me get this straight:

    1)Harlem thinks Kobe really raped that giurl with like 5 guys sperm in her panties

    and

    2)Harlem believes Lebron woke up Thursday morning and decided Miami.

    lol..i guess Steven A Smith can see the future when he said that the 3 going to miami was a done deal before July 1.

    Steven A Smith also said that Lebron was the one who approached Wade IN THE REGULAR SEASON. hahah
    -I give Lebron the benefit of the doubt..

    -There were more people that said Lebron would go to Cleveland than there was people that said he was going to Miami, TBH..

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    Because he quits on his team in the middle of a close playoff series and then goes out of his way to embarrass the city that invested itself in him on national TV.
    Ok, that's what you believe..

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    -I give Lebron the benefit of the doubt..

    -There were more people that said Lebron would go to Cleveland than there was people that said he was going to Miami, TBH..
    i thought he was going to cleveland. Why did i think that way? Cuz i didnt think anyone was heartless enough to take a on thier city LIVE on TV for an hour.

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    Why do you think Lebron is a bad person?..
    He's not a bad person...I wouldn't go that far.

    But I'll start a list.

    1. He played his hometown. He didn't leave his hometown b/c he's a grown man and he can do what he wants, but he played them.

    2. He quit on his team even though they were legit le contenders. (You could tell by the way he didn't give a f*** after they lost.) LBJ never goes 3-14. Never. All of a sudden he has that type of game in a Game 5? BS, especially since he wasn't pissed about it.

    3. He's a drama queen.

    I'm getting lazy...

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    Ok, that's what you believe..
    Man screw you. Watch the f'ing tapes.

    If you think LeBron is such a great compe or can you explain to me why he played so poorly in Game 5 and so careless in Game 6...and most importantly not give 2 f's about what happened?

    He's the ultimate compe or right? So why wasn't he pissed? Because he quit.

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    -I give Lebron the benefit of the doubt..

    -There were more people that said Lebron would go to Cleveland than there was people that said he was going to Miami, TBH..
    You're a fool. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt....you have 0 justifications for anything you say anymore. Just stop while you have some credibility.


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    come on himat...homie is a troll. I dont even bother using logic with tarrd with him. He's just some dude who cant decide if he's a heat, knicks or spurs fan

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    You're a fool. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt....you have 0 justifications for anything you say anymore. Just stop while you have some credibility.
    Way way way way toooooo late!

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    Boston played great D against Lebron, stop insulting them by not giving them any credit..struggling doesn't mean you quit, it means you just played poorly..

    Forgive me a detour: I remember being a kid at Blazer games in the old Memorial Coliseum. Those Clyde Drexler/Terry Porter teams inspired us fans countless times in the playoffs. Much like the Cavaliers to date, they didn't win a le, but they competed so hard and won more than enough to convince everyone that they had our best interests at heart. Now and again, if they fell far behind in a game, the fans would take a turn to lead. The team would be having its worst quarter in a month, and the faithful would rise and cheer like crazy. It was our turn to lift their spirits, after having it go the other way so many times.

    Instead of questioning them, abandoning them or even hating them, fans showed a little love, like you would to a family member having a bad day.

    Because, although it seems to come as a shock to many, even James has bad days. So did Jordan, Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Oscar Roberston and everybody else. So do you! And that's OK.

    The "LeBacle" may soon prove to have been one of the darkest moments in Cleveland's miserable sports history.

    But please, spare us the assertion that after one bad night we know James has always had a permanent flaw. It's just absurd, and amazingly some of it's coming from the faithful in Cleveland. Twitter, Internet comments, my e-mail inbox, Facebook, all are loaded to the gills with talk that he's doomed to mediocrity, psychologically deficient or was intentionally tanking.

    As if those 69 playoff contests and 548 regular-season games were the aberration, and this one horrible night was the truth. As if the guy who scored 25 straight against the Pistons in a similar situation needs a lecture, from Twitter, on embracing the challenge.

    Somebody should make a big list of all those people who think they now know James is a doomed player, and we'll revisit in a decade.

    A couple picked, unfairly, almost at random ... this one happens to come from the comments of a tremendous Kevin Arnovitz video post about James:

    ChicoEscuela: I'm a Cleveland fan who has been watching Bron play since high school. ... His legacy got tarnished last night. He should no longer be mentioned in the same sentence with MJ ever again.

    And another:

    RWABO8: ... he's psychologically tweaked. Whether it's last night or refusing to shake hands last year, it's like he's gone through some kind of arrested development. You wonder if he missed something about teamwork and sportsmanship by never playing college hoops. This weakness will continue to hamstring his game until he sorts it out, or until he goes to a team that doesn't need him to play as big a role. The Cavs needed a big man in the classic sense last night, not the basketball sense. And King James acted like a peasant.


    Maybe Cleveland fans are just bitter about the way James has teased them in the lead-up to free agency. Maybe a lot of this commentary is fueled by Kobe Bryant fans, eager to prove theirs is the better man.

    Or maybe, after watching the Cavaliers roll to a 26-8 (before last night) home playoff record through James' five playoff runs, Cleveland fans have been spoiled. Whatever the cause, people are acting rotten.

    Whatever James is doing, in terms of killer mentality, pre-game routines, workout regimens, shot selection ... it has been about as effective as humans can be. If you watched his first 69 playoff games, you would have to assume that he has this playoff thing figured out.

    After one bad showing, even while playing injured, fans are booing on their way to the exits? James hasn't earned a single mulligan?

    Even the owner is distancing himself from the team. I know Dan Gilbert hardly bailed on his players, but in their moment of need, he reminded people that he did his part, but the players didn't. Would it have been so hard to say something like "if we have to be down 3-2, I'd rather be there with LeBron James on my side?"

    I don't know what's going to happen in this series. But I know that past performance is the best indication of future results, and James' has been as good as it gets. There may be something -- an injury, fatigue, who knows -- keeping James from being himself. But there's nothing about being himself that's keeping him from winning.
    This is an article from Henry Abbott a few months ago..this was the reaction the majority of Cav fans had on their forums..this is what Lebron was supposed to stay for?..this is who he "betrayed"?..

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