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actually, neither player has yet to play an NBA game yet. so yes, we are all jumping the gun but there really isnt anything else to talk about right now.
Splitter
Griffin
Sorry but the jury is still out on Oden. He hasn't proven in professional level.
actually, neither player has yet to play an NBA game yet. so yes, we are all jumping the gun but there really isnt anything else to talk about right now.
speaking about homerism.... lol
Duncan at this stage has better knees than Oden and Bynum combined...
Move up in the draft for what? There was nothing up there in this draft...
Splitter will have 3-4 players ahead of him on the depth chart in Tim, Manu, Tony and (RJ?). Tiago will be lucky to average 10 and 7 with 1 block a game in my book. I just want him to play defense and score an occasional bucket, we will not need much more from him his rookie year.
Blake will be the go to guy if he is healthy. He will play 40+ minutes and be allowed to do whatever he wants. Splitter might make the all-rookie first or second team but Griffen could be the ROY with the opportunities he is going to have in LA.
What are some of you talking about Griffin not yet playing. He played 7 games last season.
I think a much more fair question is which player will be better able to meet their team's expectations of them. Tiago is just expected to come in and be a smart role player, solid defender, and someone who can play the pick and roll.
Griffin is expected to be a franchise player. A player you can build a team around and who can lead that team at least to the playoffs with minimum help. Look at Garnett, Duncan, Lebron, Carmelo, Shaq, Morning, Robinson, etc etc etc. Tiago's expected performance is closer to Varejo, Haywood, Rasho, Scola, Noah, or Biedrens. I could definitely see Splitter reaching those levels with more success than Griffin meets those set for him.
Don't be insane homers, Griffin is well ahead of
Tiago offensively. Defense is closer, but Griffin still wins imho.
Uh, Griffin is going to be an all star and perennial All NBA.. Tiago? not so much
Average 13.7 and 8.1 (with 1.4 steals and 0.7 blocks) in 28 minutes of play... but that was the preseason. He never played a regular season game, his knee injury was diagnosed just the day before the start of regular season.
That's the way I see it. But that's not to say Splitter will be a dud, I am sure he will be a solid player in this league.
ups... sorry.
Griffin has all-star potential while Splitter looks to be a role player. Can't believe there are 35+ Spur fans who'd rather have Splitter. It's almost embarrassing.
good take.
I'm for Griffin, but I went to OU so...
I remember that when Parker was drafted, people were like...who is this surprise Frenchman?
Look at all the talent at PG that was still on the board!!!!
Too bad the Pacers got Tinsley at #27, 1 pick ahead of the Spurs at #28.
What about Omar Cook from Saint John's, Will Solomon from Clemson, Earl Watson from UCLA, or Jamison Brewer from Auburn. All players from established schools. Why the Frenchman? Yeah...out of all those guys from established programs, only Watson & Tinsley stuck in the league. And none of those guys have accomplished anything close to Parker. So why are we discrediting Splitter? , if Griffin went to Texas at Austin, you guys would have him on an even higher pedestal. I've seen Blake Griffin before in the NBA, he was...Wayman Tisdale, also of Oklahoma, A beast of a player at 6'9" averaged 15 & 7 in his first season in the Pros. Consider that he's still 6'9" and overly relies on his athleticism, then I think his plateau is possibly Elton Brand but I think he ends up being just like Wayman Tisdale. As a long time follower of the Clippers, their history of overall #1 picks, including those who used to be College Player of the Year(Danny Manning) hasn't been all that awesome.
I'm choosing Splitter because he's a player who fits in what the Spurs do and isn't expected to carry the hopes of the franchise. Whereas, Griffin is supposed to help put fans in the arena and give them a show. Donald Sterling isn't an owner who will build a team unless his mis-matched parts miraculously blend, then, he'll pay SOME money.
And using past statistics doesn't always work. Question, when Brandon Jennings played in Italy, what were his stats there?
In Lega A for Basketball, Jennnings did this:Jennings averaged in 27 games, 5.5 points, 1.6 rebounds, 2.2 assists, and 1.5 steals in 17.0 minutes per game. He shot 35.1 percent from the field and 20.7 percent from 3 point range in Lega A play.
In Euro League:Jennings averaged 7.6 points, 1.6 rebounds, 1.6 assists, and 1.2 steals in 19.6 minutes per game. In the Euroleague he shot 38.7 percent from the field and 26.8 percent from 3 point range.
So because sucked in Europe, he'll suck even more in the NBA right? See, that logic doesn't work either.
I'm just saying, before you crown Griffin as better, take a look and look at fit on team, style of play, health(is he coming of a leg injury), and amount of experience. When it gets down to it, Splitter has him beat in all of the above. Will Splitter get pub? NO, the powers that be don't like to talk about the Spurs, they only do it begrudgingly.
the potential levels differ vastly. as for who i would want for next season, it would be a close call but griffin wins. as for the long term, lol of course griffin.
I wasn't aware that people thought that Blake Griffin was a potential franchise player... Comparing him to Garnett and even Tim Duncan? What is wrong with you people? I would be surprised if he ever even sniffed 25 ppg and I cannot for the life of me picture him carrying a team at any point in his career. I always pictured him as a 16-18 ppg player averaging close to 10 boards. That being said, we are not going to get that from Tiago so... I guess I pick Griffin
if blake leaves the clippers he is pretty much guaranteed to be top 50 all time!
haha
Ummm...No, Griffin is not that good. You see that, but then you never saw Wayman Tisdale at Oklahoma or in the NBA averaging 20 & 8. He won't come close to Dwight Howard. He's the #1 pick and will be treated as a 1st year rook. Let's see if he makes 1st Team All-Rookie. I bet you, it ain't a lock. You're looking at this as a singular 1 v 1. When in actuality, it's a who fits better and will make more of an impact.
Ask last year's #2 how awesome the NBA is. One moment, you're can't miss, which is what many of you are saying about Griffin, the next moment, you're why aren't you the team's savior? RECOGNIZE!
Griffin for sure, he is going to get more minutes then Splitter this upcoming season, and he is a whole lot more of potential, this dosen't deserve a comparison.
Damn ST is going to go into meltdown when they see Tiago play with these high expectations.
Yes, but maybe he will live up to his expectations, we never know, im just expecting him to be a 9-6 guy in maybe 25 MPG.
I wonder how many of you guys are doing to Griffin, the same thing you guys did Beasley. Can't miss, he's going to help DWade a lot!
Or when we had the old Suckmywokandi arguments, he's a true 7 footer with skills, a former #1 pick...blah, blah, blah.
WE shall see, but I temper my enthusiasm and won't crown Griffin anything, he has to earn it. With Splitter, I know that we have a player that was good enough to do what Luis Scola had done, and that Luis' game translated very well to the NBA.
Yeah, I might be in the minority, but I've been there all my life. I'm telling you, Blake Griffin's ceiling is as a #2 star, not a franchise post player.
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