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I agree that Pietrus' man-on-man defense is exceptional, but I don't think he does near as well playing team D. YMMV.
On the Bulls side, I remember reading that there was some interest from them in Mason. Would bet that's one of their fallback positions if/when the Magic match JJ.
As to the Pietrus deal, the Spurs would probably have to throw in a draft pick or something to entice Magic into trading for Dice, only to buy him out and let him come back to the Spurs. I'm sure that there would be some interest from one of the teams under the salary cap to acquire Pietrus.
I agree that Pietrus' man-on-man defense is exceptional, but I don't think he does near as well playing team D. YMMV.
With the luxury tax, Pietrus will cost $10.6M this year to Orlando. It's a lot of money and dumping him for a TE would be a great financial move for them.
Spurs don't have that TE. The only way they could get one is by S&T Richard Jefferson. Cleveland seems to be a good candidate for this S&T. They are looking at a SF (they wanted Childress) and they have a big TE.
Whether it's Jefferson or a S&T that lands us a TE to get Pietrus I dot care as long as Malik ing Hairston does not start at SF....
So S&T of RJ to the Bulls, and then send the TE to Orlando for Pietrus? Is that possible?
Why is there so much hostility toward Spurs draft picks? Seems like the at ude is that we'd rather they leave than get a chance to play. Are people that dug into their message board predictions that they're rooting for prospects not to develop?
I don't see Bulls being interested in RJ. Cavs on the other hand.
A 3 way trade like that woudl be legit:
Cavs get RJ for a TE
Spurs get Pietrus for RJ (S&T)
Orlando get a TE for Pietrus.
i prefer Vince instead of Pietrus!
Same reason many people buy brands over generics. They feel more comfortable trading in what they perceive as known quan ies, even if the generic is often times an equivalent or even preferable product. Alas.
If the Cavs want a SF and Orlando wants a TE, why wouldn't the Magic just ship Pietrus to Cleveland instead of waiting around for the Cavs and Spurs to try and sell RJ on how great it would be for him to play on a bad basketball team in Cleveland for the next several years?
Is there any hostility towards Blair, Hill, Anderson or Splitter?
how about McDyess/RMJ (s&t) for Bass or Gortat/Pietrus
Get a younger big man and a starting caliber SF
They get veteran leadership and 3-pt shooting (holding in laughter)
Maybe throw in a few picks to sweeten the pot. next years 2nd and 2012 1st.
Poor defender ?
There was plenty for Hill before he shut everybody up. The others all come with laurels Hairston's never been close to getting... MVP Euroleague, All-American, Big-12 Conf. Player of the Year. They're better branded. Deservedly so.
I'm not a huge fan of Pietrus tbh, I think he is not a very clever player and I don't see pop working with him.
Nevertheless this guy is the best Defender specialist available right now, his shot selection is poor but he is capable to drive inside for lay ups or dunks, he can make some 3s at a good rate.
To sum up he is potentially everything we need. Once again I don't see him coming but if it was possible and Pop welcome him, Pietrus would become a much more good player with a real coach.
ESPN espn
Orlando Magic match J.J. Re 3-year offer sheet by Chicago Bulls - http://es.pn/dfYOj9
Wouldn't Cleveland want Pietrus instead of RJ (younger, better defender)? Do they have a point guard that will feed RJ? Maybe, we can all hope that RJ wants to be on a bad team so that he doesn't have to share the ball and can get his stats :-)
Given Cavs roster, RJ > Pietrus for them.
I also don't think RJ is at a stage of the FA process where he can pick his team.
No argument here. On any of your points.
Yeah, RJ is a bad first option offensively, but Pietrus would be worse (much worse), and at this point RJ would be very happy to get a contract that would match up with Pietrus's...
RJ may not be able to pick what team he wants to play for, but he can definitely pick what team he doesn't want to play for. The only possible reason RJ would have any interest in Cleveland whatsoever would be if the Cavs were willing to throw a ridiculous amount of money at him and if they were willing to do that we'd have heard about it by now. The number of wing players capable of putting up 18ppg for someone are pretty much down to RJ and Josh Howard. And Cleveland hasn't shown much interest in either.
The S&T RJ to Cleveland talk is basically just a product of people talking themselves in to how it makes perfect sense for RJ to want Cleveland and for Cleveland to want RJ just because they like the S&T possibilities for the Spurs.
Pietrus seems injury prone, would rather have RJ.
I think the Cavs would prefer RJ over Pietrus. They need someone who looks to score. I don't think Pietrus is that type.
Wow, you must not have been around when Hill was drafted or when he wasn't scoring in summer league. If people had any respect for Anderson, there'd be no mention of Hairston starting ahead of him. So basically a guy has to be euroleague MVP or a lottery pick that drops to the second round in order not to be deemed a scrub for life.
Funny that Hairston and Mahinmi get no credit for the fact that they've done some good things on an NBA floor against NBA teams, but Splitter gets credit even though he's never played a second in the league.
At this point I guess he'll go play whever he's getting paid.
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